about 5-6 inches, atleast 5 SETS of TRUE leaves (if not more), and they're from SEED. I just want enough bud to be able to have it last until my next plant matures, i smoke about 1-5 grams in 2 weeks-a month. so id need maximum of 2.5 grams perweek of growtime, so an ounce would be enough if i flowered now.