Can anyone help me identify this bug?

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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It's on a seedling. I just posted about these eggs I found in a bag of soil I bought. Now there's webbing and a slug looking thing. I could only see it with the microscope and only bc it moved. I thought it was water or something. But the fucker moved. Can anyone tell what this is. My googling isn't proving very helpful.Screenshot_20230118_191219_Video Player.jpgScreenshot_20230118_191242_Video Player.jpgScreenshot_20230118_191156_Video Player.jpg20230118_190816.jpg20230118_190808.jpg
 

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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I got a really good microscope video of a bug on the underside of the leaf. The things crawling around. It looks grayish and long with a lot of legs. I wish I could share a video. Here's some screen shots. It looks different than the other bug I saw. I don't fucking know. But I threw the seedling out. Prob going to throw them all out but I'm going to watch them closely to see what I can figure out and learn. I just don't want to let it turn into an infestation or something. Screenshot_20230118_195922_Video Player.jpgScreenshot_20230118_195847_Video Player.jpg
 

FirstCavApache64

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I haven't ran into that one before but I'd burn it with fire and get rid of all that soil. I know it's not cheap to get new media but it's better than risking the whole grow getting infected. Sorry to see this bud.
 

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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I haven't ran into that one before but I'd burn it with fire and get rid of all that soil. I know it's not cheap to get new media but it's better than risking the whole grow getting infected. Sorry to see this bud.
Thank you for the reply. I'm frantically going back and forth between Google and checking riu to see if anyone replied. I can't find a bug that looks like it. Plus there were 2! I will def get rid of it all then.
 

crimsonecho

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look up springtails they come in different colors they eat fungi count the legs and segments on the bug you see and compare with the online images. the fuzz seems like mold to me they may just be there to eat it.
 

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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look up springtails they come in different colors they eat fungi count the legs and segments on the bug you see and compare with the online images. the fuzz seems like mold to me they may just be there to eat it.
Dude, I think it's a springtail! I would guess in a younger stage of life bc it's small. It said adults were around 1/16 of an inch. This this wouldn't have been visible with my eye. Thanks a lot dude. I was only googling pest so I never came across this guy. I really think it's prob what it is.
 

crimsonecho

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yes but also why is there mold on a seedling there is an issue to be corrected there my man. where is this fuzz on the plant. both fungi and springtails love constant moisture so its not good to see these things on a plant.
 

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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yes but also why is there mold on a seedling there is an issue to be corrected there my man. where is this fuzz on the plant. both fungi and springtails love constant moisture so its not good to see these things on a plant.
Could it be bc I left the baggie covering it for a few days after it broke soil? I was spraying it every day too. Not drenching it but maybe 5-7 spritzes. The fuzz was under the leaf.
 

crimsonecho

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could be yes. its good that you avoided damping off. as soon as they brake soil i remove humidity domes. some people dont even use them. anyway wait till your pots get light before watering each time and dont wet the plant to avoid issues and wipe that mold off the plant with some 1-2% h2o2 soaked paper towel.
 

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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could be yes. its good that you avoided damping off. as soon as they brake soil i remove humidity domes. some people dont even use them. anyway wait till your pots get light before watering each time and dont wet the plant to avoid issues and wipe that mold off the plant with some 1-2% h2o2 soaked paper towel.
I got rid of that plant. I was strongly considering ditching them all. I found those tiny white balls in the bagged soil I bought and used with them. The company said they were fungi but I'm starting to doubt that. I'm going to watch them closely over the next week and see what I can see. Thanks for the help bro. I will do that with watering them. I thought seedlings needed constant moisture but I'll let them dry out more.
 

crimsonecho

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i have seen your other post it was fungi it happens in my worm bin when i dont cover the decaying organic matter with soil or ewc.

its not bad per se but those caps of the fungi release spores and those spores can cause other problems for tight nugs especially like rot and shit. its good to mulch for that reason. prevents fruiting fungi on the top soil and release of spores.

seeds need moisture until they break soil but after that you need to establish a proper watering cycle or you will have root issues mainly root rot.

when soil dries the pockets priorly filled with water fills with air and roots need air too. dont let them dry out completely to the point of being bone dry but dont keep them always wet either. just water until the medium is wet completely and let them dry before watering again.
 

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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i have seen your other post it was fungi it happens in my worm bin when i dont cover the decaying organic matter with soil or ewc.

its not bad per se but those caps of the fungi release spores and those spores can cause other problems for tight nugs especially like rot and shit. its good to mulch for that reason. prevents fruiting fungi on the top soil and release of spores.

seeds need moisture until they break soil but after that you need to establish a proper watering cycle or you will have root issues mainly root rot.

when soil dries the pockets priorly filled with water fills with air and roots need air too. dont let them dry out completely to the point of being bone dry but dont keep them always wet either. just water until the medium is wet completely and let them dry before watering again.
This is my last run with bagged soil. I'm gotten almost everything together now for a living soil. I'm going to grow in a 2x4 bed. Was planning on using blumats. I do okay watering from a can, on bigger plants I am better about maintaining a good wet to dry cycle, I just got confused on the seedlings I think. But I've read a bunch of really good stuff about blumats. Plus being able to go on vacation for more than a couple days seems cool too. I'm pretty nervous about messing out all up though. I was going to follow Coot's mix but the way I understand it is the compost/ewc is the most important part. And that's the part I'm struggling with the most. There's no hydro stores in my state. Nowhere to get pumice, quality compost or ewc. I found some new England compost which I heard was good. But I'm honestly thinking of using my own compost at this point. It's been a 3 month search and still isn't definite. Also I'm thinking maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a soil test and call one is these living soil consultants for $75. Sorry i just smoked and I'm rambling
 

crimsonecho

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yes ewc is important fresh ewc is the king of all microbial innoculants and soil conditioners in my opinion and keeping a worm bin is so easy you would beat yourself up for not doing it sooner if you ever tried. just toss all your leftover veggies and fruits and coffee and tea leftovers and they will give you pure black gold in return.

blumats are good too but if you are gonna connect it to a live faucet you should get some security equipment to cut the water flow in an event of runoff which can happen. and if you are gonna connect it to a tank be sure to have a tray or something to keep the water from flooding the house in an event of runoff again. especially keep all the electrical equipment off the floor.

pumice is not a necessity you can use lava stones or perlite or rice husks or many other materials.

as for using your own compost as a general rule of keeping my indoors pest free i dont use anything from outside. bagged stuff is usually sterilized which means it will more than likely not contain pest eggs and seeds but your own compost probably will. you can sterilize it yourself by baking it or something but you have to look that up yourself. its a suggestion from an ocd guy :)
 

ClaytonNewbilFontaine

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yes ewc is important fresh ewc is the king of all microbial innoculants and soil conditioners in my opinion and keeping a worm bin is so easy you would beat yourself up for not doing it sooner if you ever tried. just toss all your leftover veggies and fruits and coffee and tea leftovers and they will give you pure black gold in return.

blumats are good too but if you are gonna connect it to a live faucet you should get some security equipment to cut the water flow in an event of runoff which can happen. and if you are gonna connect it to a tank be sure to have a tray or something to keep the water from flooding the house in an event of runoff again. especially keep all the electrical equipment off the floor.

pumice is not a necessity you can use lava stones or perlite or rice husks or many other materials.

as for using your own compost as a general rule of keeping my indoors pest free i dont use anything from outside. bagged stuff is usually sterilized which means it will more than likely not contain pest eggs and seeds but your own compost probably will. you can sterilize it yourself by baking it or something but you have to look that up yourself. its a suggestion from an ocd guy :)
That sounds like very good advice and I will follow that rule of thumb as well. It's not worth the risk. Thanks for that.

As far as worms, I've got 3 bins going atm and 2 more lbs will be here tomorrow. One of the bins has about 3lbs. The other 2 were just maybe a few hundred each. Worms i scavenged from my neighbors horse farm. A month ago I found this spot outside her hay barn where the horses have been picking at the hay stored in the barn for 20 years. This soil was so dark and rich and absolutely loaded with worms and other insects. I farmed some of the worms there and dragged totes of that soil around my yard and put it on my garden plots and some into my compost. The worms have been going for about 1.5 months now.
 

crimsonecho

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That sounds like very good advice and I will follow that rule of thumb as well. It's not worth the risk. Thanks for that.

As far as worms, I've got 3 bins going atm and 2 more lbs will be here tomorrow. One of the bins has about 3lbs. The other 2 were just maybe a few hundred each. Worms i scavenged from my neighbors horse farm. A month ago I found this spot outside her hay barn where the horses have been picking at the hay stored in the barn for 20 years. This soil was so dark and rich and absolutely loaded with worms and other insects. I farmed some of the worms there and dragged totes of that soil around my yard and put it on my garden plots and some into my compost. The worms have been going for about 1.5 months now.
yes i’d now harvest some worms and start a small indoor bin for your indoor garden. these seedlings are indoors yes i am not mistaken? if so again this rule of outdoor bin for outdoors and indoor bin for indoors stuff is a good precaution to have imo. as you already realized they like horse manure too but again after sterilizing for indoor bin haha
 
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