Can anyone help identify the problem here?

Well this little fella is 12 days old, and small from comparison of other plants I've grown. The only thing I can think of to blame is the soil i bought, Vigoro organic potting soil. On all my other grows i always used miracle gro soil. This soil had gnats in it, and am still battling them with mosquito dunks and fly traps. I haven't fed them anything yet, the PH of the tap water i use is usually around 6.6. The temps are the highest being 82f, goes down to around 60f lights out. I've been letting the soil get really dry to try and help get rid of these damn gnats. I was thinking about saying fuck this grow, getting new soil and starting over with bag seeds, but they're obviously not dead so I'm gonna see what I can do.

So, anyone have an idea as to what's causing the damage on my little baby ?

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I went ahead and fed them 1/4 the instructed dose of vegging nutes, it seems like they're lacking nitrogen because they're all lite green and slow growing. Plus after reading about other people's experiences with vigoro soil the majority of them said that you have to mix in your own nutes because it doesn't have much in it.

IMO- a little moisture damage on the leaf. 2nd true set looks good.

Good Luck on Your Grow.

Thanks that eases my mind a bit , I'll just stop spraying them. I also bought some diatomaceous earth and put some on the surface of the soil of them all, hopefully that will help get rid of these damn gnats

Gmz said:

Thanks that eases my mind a bit , I'll just stop spraying them. I also bought some diatomaceous earth and put some on the surface of the soil of them all, hopefully that will help get rid of these damn gnats

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Get some perlite. add a layer to the top @ 1-2 inches thick.
When you transplant add a layer of perlite to the bottom of the container covering the drain holes, add a layer on top. this encapsulates the growing medium, the fungus gnats won't crawl through the perlite.
make sure your soil isn't to wet. no standing water in any saucers.

They grow very well in soil without nutes in the first few weeks of veg.

You can consider repotting if the gnat problem persists.

Good luck.

You can also water by placing pot in co.tainer of water and letting it wick up the water.
This will keep the top parts of the soil dry where they breed. The larvae can't survive in a dry environment.

I put the layer of perlite on the surface of all their soil, but I still can't get over the fact that they're so small for their age.... I mean I just don't know, If I were to scrap this grow, do it over with the original soil I've always used, started in smaller containers, I just think they'd outgrow these one's that are 13 days old now, within 7 days. Problem being, these are the seeds I bought, and the only other ones i have are random bag seeds.


First Blue cheese I grew on day 12 -



Compared to the current Blue cheese on day 12 -

I think I might just scrap em honestly... I don't wanna have a tiny plant that's 1 month old, I don't know though... what would you guys do? It is kinda exciting to see what would come out of a bag seed, I know a few of the bag seeds I have are red diesel, the smoke from that was really powerful gave me a smile but made me really paranoid..

But yeah... At this rate they'd probably look to be about 1 week old at day 20 it seems lol


Here they are at 13 days after emerging from the soil :\

I made the mistake of buying some different shit over the summer, and ended up just dumping the bag full of bugs outside.
It grew like shit too, so I went back to MG moisture control.

I'm gonna let the soil dry out real good and see if they show me that they got the potential to be healthy strong little plants. I don't think I've let the soil dry out completely yet, maybe that will help them breathe

Gmz said:

I'm gonna let the soil dry out real good and see if they show me that they got the potential to be healthy strong little plants. I don't think I've let the soil dry out completely yet, maybe that will help them breathe

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I had one last season, I was trying to be funny, and started it in a 1" pot, and when I went to t-plant it, I ripped off part of the tap root, and the dam thing only grew to about 4" tall before I hacked it because the 1 bowl size nug was starting to get amber trichs.

Yep, I too tried a new soil (more acidic) this summer.

A few weeks in I realised it had gnats.

I let it dry out, put a layer of perlite on the top and put up some fly strips (got the problem under control) the plants grew very well.

You can start growing some of your bag seed in new soil, then if they overtake these in a few weeks...

I am curious as to how experienced of a grower you are?
Most experienced growers know that seedlings DO NOT need nutes when they're that young.
You do know that those two little round leaves at the bottom of the stem are there for a reason,they provide food and nutrients for the seedling.
Not only that but the soil already has nutrients in it.
No nutes until those two little round leaves turn yellow and the seedling has two sets of leaves.
Then you can start giving it nutes but very small amounts until it is big enough to start on a regular feed schedule.

I'm not very experienced at all, I know you're not supposed to feed seedlings... Hell I barely ever fed any of my plants I've grown in the past at all because I was afraid to burn them. I've just never had seedlings do this on me up until now and I just don't know why. Everything is the same, other then the soil so I just didn't know what's wrong. At this point I'm willing to try anything, I red that plants that are lite green color and are growing slowly then it probably needs nitrogen. As for the soil, I don't think it does have much nutrients in it.

Well I ended up attempting to save them all, and now there's a new problem.... Pretty sure there's some sort of bug munching on my blue cheese's leaf, or it can be something else for all I know, what do you guys think?

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