silk
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We are not fighting a war therefore we can't win one.
Bush on the warpath
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We are not fighting a war therefore we can't win one.
medicineman
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Well said Krime, Fuck the spelling, you got your point accross, that's more than I can say for The hemp idiot. It's a shame there are still neanderthols like him out there, living with 8th grade civics and the American flag. The USA is the most feared and hated country on the planet, we are the warmongers. we either start wars or fund them with our tax dollars, why you ask: so the corporations and the arms dealers and the oil companies can make huge profits and pay idiot CEOs multi million dollar salaries while real wages are going down. This the America you love? If so you are fucking nutzo.
7xstall
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that's the leftist code word for "close eyes while throwing lots of cash and bureaucracy at it".
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medicineman
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..............................that's the leftist code word for "close eyes while throwing lots of cash and bureaucracy at it".
So what is war? throwing money at killing people and making profits for the elites. been that way for centuries and probably will be that way for more. Here's my question to you: which is more important, Killing people or helping people. It's a simple question. If we spent the war monies on social programs we would be helping people, not killing people. Unless you are one of those assholes that profit from war, then what the fuck is up with you? Just because you have to work for a living doesn't make you God. You shouldn't look down on those less fortunate than you. If the elites gave up a small percentage of their monies, they could provide jobs and healthcare to all. We need to take care of our own. If wages were justifiably adequate so everyone could make a decent living, I'm pretty sure all those jobs "Americans don't want to do" would be filled in a heartbeat by Americans, and we could eliminate the illegals. I started working at 14 and never looked back. Put myself through 2 years of college while raising a family and worked two jobs while doing it, so I know about sacrifice and hard work.
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7xstall
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the money going to "war" shouldn't even be in the hands of our government in the first place. if you look back, the government started the tax and war cycle last century. tax and build up the military then go to war. over and over.
moving funds from one piece of government to the other will NOT solve the problem. chopping the government down to it's proper size is the ONLY way to get us out of this "world police" role.
look at the psychology med. we pay our government to "fix" things for us, messy things like poverty, drugs, war, etc.. the government is now in the role of "parent" to us "children". now, some kid acts up down the street and who else but the "parents" should go straighten him out? it's the entitlement attitude. we've done it to ourselves and now we've instilled this into the world! yeah, they say they hate us but in all honesty they know that we're the only super power left and they're jealous. you would be too if you're country with centuries of rich history could be wiped off the map in less than 30 days by a nation less than 3 centuries old.
we need a major shakeup at the top to get this done.
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moving funds from one piece of government to the other will NOT solve the problem. chopping the government down to it's proper size is the ONLY way to get us out of this "world police" role.
look at the psychology med. we pay our government to "fix" things for us, messy things like poverty, drugs, war, etc.. the government is now in the role of "parent" to us "children". now, some kid acts up down the street and who else but the "parents" should go straighten him out? it's the entitlement attitude. we've done it to ourselves and now we've instilled this into the world! yeah, they say they hate us but in all honesty they know that we're the only super power left and they're jealous. you would be too if you're country with centuries of rich history could be wiped off the map in less than 30 days by a nation less than 3 centuries old.
we need a major shakeup at the top to get this done.
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medicineman
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I agree that Government sticks it's nose in way too many things, But the role of government IMO is to supply the people with an infrastructure that supplys the basic needs of the citizenry, like, Protection from foriegn invaders, both peaceful and violent, roads, Dams, national parks, Health care, oversight on corporations in areas like safety and polution, regulation of excess profits like the oil companies are enjoying now. Hey I believe business should make a profit, But I don't believe that should be their only reason for being. The elites have way too much power for their numbers, this is called a plutocratic society. I don't believe in socialism, contrary to popular belief, but an equitable sharing of wealth. Everyone, regardless of education or status should be afforded an opportunity to make a liveable wage. Yeah that would mean the bottom line of many corporations would go down and yes that would piss off the elites, but fuck them, they have had it thier way much too long. Do you realize there are many among us that do not have to get out of bed to make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. That is wrong. why should some have to work their asses off just to survive and others have wealth passed to them for generations be able to rule us? This is not democracy but plutocracy.
ViRedd
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Med sez ...
"But the role of government IMO is to supply the people with an infrastructure that supplys the basic needs of the citizenry, like, Protection from foriegn invaders, both peaceful and violent, roads, Dams, national parks, Health care, oversight on corporations in areas like safety and polution, regulation of excess profits like the oil companies are enjoying now."
Then he sez ...
"I don't believe in socialism, contrary to popular belief, but an equitable sharing of wealth."
Kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it guys?
Vi
"But the role of government IMO is to supply the people with an infrastructure that supplys the basic needs of the citizenry, like, Protection from foriegn invaders, both peaceful and violent, roads, Dams, national parks, Health care, oversight on corporations in areas like safety and polution, regulation of excess profits like the oil companies are enjoying now."
Then he sez ...
"I don't believe in socialism, contrary to popular belief, but an equitable sharing of wealth."
Kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it guys?
Vi
his point is based on leftist conspiracy theories therefore invalid. im sure its never occured to you why they dislike us? lets start with muslim extremist. America turned our backs on our own God. American society as a whole lives in morally and without ethics tv and movies are filled with murder, adultery, nudity, and more all of which God told us to stear clear from. Things that should be prohibited and in the Muslim would are. We as a people have no sense of family or honor. And make no mistake Jews,Muslims,and Christians all worship the same God. Muslims see these things as the rest of the world does and thinks that we are not deserving of what we have therefore they want to take it away. As for the rest of the world, they say they dislike us but have no problems using our goods watching our tv our movies and having dreams of moving to this great country. European nations still believe that we have something to prove since compared to them we are still the new kids on the block.
they seem to forget that we bailed them out of 2 world wars. We are the worlds police. We supply 70% of the UNs troop force. terrorism is not a problem that will go away on its own. terrorism is our biggest and only threat. clinton ignored the threat even after the first bombing of the WTC happened. he had a chance to get bin laden but let him go. then bin laden got us in the rear.
Well said Med ,I couldnt agree with you more, Vi ,taking frases out of context is not fooling anyone, med said himself that the Gov. spending needs to shrink, however we do need an infrastructure to remain a nation, the tax sistem needs to be overhauled...Hempie,what am I going to do with you?Lucky for me, OUR great country still has freedom of religion, And I just happened to be a hedo satanist so no matter what you say ,I'm planing on doing as much fucking and drugs as possible, I also plan on messing with fundamentalist christians like your self as much as possible, after all it is the only way to continue to enjoy my freedoms, as far as I'm concerned you and the mid east terorrists are the same breed, you try to take away my rights... As far as the Europe goes, I do not think we bailed them out , shure, we helped a great deal, but the us didn't enter the war till 1944, by that time Russian forces were already on the offensive (I think thaqt is part of the reason US got involved) and sure US probably made ww2 shorter by the decade and saved countless lives, but I think in the long run Europe would have came out on top anyway... I simply refuse to belive that fascism can survive for a long period of time anywhere, same with comunism....
we got involved because of pearl harbor so you need to stop thinking it doesn't do you any good. ally troops used our planes, tanks, weapons before we entered.. all the major offenses after that were led by us, and with our equipment. we won the war. as for the rest of your psycho babble it is what it is laughable psycho babble. so keep posting because i need the laughs kid.
what i wrote is fact just like everything else ive written.
