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AAAAAAAAAaaaa that explains my '3 headed mutant' from my 1st grow... it got a bit burnt by the light... and grew 3 heads and looked very strange... and then hermied and contaminated 2 other plants and make them seedy........... 'Foxtailing'........ well you live and you learn............. :)
 
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MISSPHOEBE said:
AAAAAAAAAaaaa that explains my '3 headed mutant' from my 1st grow... it got a bit burnt by the light... and grew 3 heads and looked very strange... and then hermied and contaminated 2 other plants and make them seedy........... 'Foxtailing'........ well you live and you learn............. :)
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yep they look like a hammerhead shark
maybe u should change your avatar

told u OP FT sucks
chop now in next few days
 
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hey ant bro im sorry
wish i had better news for u
but if u need any help dont hesitate to ask me
if i dont know answer i will find out who does
 
Joedank

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Don't chop early !! I disagree 100% with Fabfun . Look up the strain quasar.
Foxtailing is no big deal it is better to smoke buds that are finished ESP if you have grown the strains before.
Like you said it is just a heat issue. Light intensity will cause bleaching before it causes foxing...

I ask about Boost because it is full of hormones/enzymes from fermented sugar wastes and has been observed to quicken harvest time .... Who knows how a plant reacts to that depending on the week used... Plus the one time I used it all my girls got very nute sensitive...
 
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I have one strain that when I pollinate her for seed she always foxtails at the end...I assume it has something to do with the seeds...who knows though...the buds are dense and just happen to have a few somewhat disconnected buds on top...but who cares? Still smokes awesome...and really I don't understand why we are all gung ho for huge colas..I mean I want lots of smoke too, but your plant doesn't have to feel like a brick of weed...lol. It will still smoke awesome, and it isn't like you are going to light one end of the cola and smoke it through...you inevitable end up ripping it apart anyway...so I figure these are getting started breaking up for me...
 
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Joedank said:
Don't chop early !! I disagree 100% with Fabfun . Look up the strain quasar.
Foxtailing is no big deal it is better to smoke buds that are finished ESP if you have grown the strains before.
Like you said it is just a heat issue. Light intensity will cause bleaching before it causes foxing...

I ask about Boost because it is full of hormones/enzymes from fermented sugar wastes and has been observed to quicken harvest time .... Who knows how a plant reacts to that depending on the week used... Plus the one time I used it all my girls got very nute sensitive...
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how dare you lol
hey not everyone always agrees
guess we can wait and see
http://www.google.com/search?q=chocolope+foxtailing&hl=en
 
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what exactly is fox tailing? i have 2 bag seed that got polenated and they seem to be taking forever to finish.... they have new bud growth(really skinkky like a couple pistol's stacked on top of one another and then a leaf) and single leaves coming out the to is this the same? they seem to be extending like this on several buds and they haven't seem to thicken yet, its like week 9 of flower, these 2 are bagseed from brick weed and they did experience a high temp change over the last week. all my other strains (blue cheese WW, and purp) all seem fine though.
 
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and my none of my other strains take 9 weeks and these guys are in the way wondering if its worth it to chop one now and one in a week?(they have both been on water for like 3 weeks and are still pretty green in the leaves and been given maybe 3oz of feed water one time a week and a half ago.)
 
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polyarcturus said:
what exactly is fox tailing? i have 2 bag seed that got polenated and they seem to be taking forever to finish.... they have new bud growth(really skinkky like a couple pistol's stacked on top of one another and then a leaf) and single leaves coming out the to is this the same? they seem to be extending like this on several buds and they haven't seem to thicken yet, its like week 9 of flower, these 2 are bagseed from brick weed and they did experience a high temp change over the last week. all my other strains (blue cheese WW, and purp) all seem fine though.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=chocolope+foxtailing&hl=en#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=cannabis+foxtailing&oq=+foxtailing&aq=1c&aqi=g1g-c2&aql=&gs_l=serp.1.1.0j0i7l2.0l0l1l703l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=6a38b958ac5aa915&biw=1280&bih=567
 
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polyarcturus said:
and my none of my other strains take 9 weeks and these guys are in the way wondering if its worth it to chop one now and one in a week?(they have both been on water for like 3 weeks and are still pretty green in the leaves and been given maybe 3oz of feed water one time a week and a half ago.)
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how about some pics of this plant ?
 
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yep thats what going on little stack of pistoles and leaves, the plant in the vid they let bitch ripen that COOG looks nice. but anyways my buecheese does this normally but i think thats just more of its structure because the bud is dense..... so sativas do this normally so im ok, let them get ripe?
 
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polyarcturus said:
i take that as a yes.
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even with seeds I would never pick my crop before it is ready. why sacrifice what quality you have with premature picking? foxtails or seeds its not worth it to me to have undeveloped tri because then all you will be doing is trying to get high...
 
Joedank

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^^ this is gospel. ^^ would you pick white strawberries?

You seem to know this strain so go until you get to ripeness your comfortable with and pick;)
I will bet your yeild is better than you think... R.c. Clarke once said f.t. Late in flower is an example of a strain pushing out alittle extra before ripening up...
 
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Joedank said:
^^ this is gospel. ^^ would you pick white strawberries?

You seem to know this strain so go until you get to ripeness your comfortable with and pick;)
I will bet your yeild is better than you think... R.c. Clarke once said f.t. Late in flower is an example of a strain pushing out alittle extra before ripening up...
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I would never change that rule! :hump:
 
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[h=1]Foxtailing?[/h]Discussion in 'General Indoor Growing' started by Mr.LovaLova, Jan 23, 2010.




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  • [h=3]Mr.LovaLova New Farmer [/h]

    I have seen this term used a few times and have read through the forums but can't find a clear answer to what foxtailing actually is. Can someone help a brother out?​
    Mr.LovaLova, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]nughit New Farmer [/h]

    Foxtailing is when the calexs grow out past the bud.​
    nughit, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]PureSugar New Farmer [/h]

    Here a pict is worth a thousand words:​
    [h=4]Attached Files:[/h]

    PureSugar, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]hellboysavage New Farmer [/h]

    i always wondered this to is this do to bad breeding are what causes this just curios​
    hellboysavage, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]Lost New Farmer [/h]

    Its the strain or even the pheno. Its pretty cool because mine started out tight nugs and then kept foztailing.. Gunna pull her in a few days.. She's all cloudy now
    Lost, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]Rolln J Guest [/h]

    heat and too much co2 too late in flowering can cause this as well​
    Rolln J, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]Tank Fillerman Guest [/h]

    Shooting Powder can also cause this when misused or used on the wrong strain. Same with nitrites.​
    Tank Fillerman, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]Rolln J Guest [/h]

    froggy:

    well it actually makes for more trimming and weird looking buds - lots of times when they are foxtailing they are not finishing up - it is a prevalent trait in many long flowering sativas​
    Rolln J, Jan 23, 2010
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  • [h=3]burnalot420 Breeder [/h]

    u da man rj!!!​
    burnalot420, Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]Blaze Active Farmer [/h]

    It is not always a bad trait to have. Some excellent strains, like Blue Moonshine, always foxtail before finishing. It tends to be a trait associated with strains that have a sativa, particularly thai sativa, in their genetic make-up.

    It is bad when a strain that normally does not do it foxtails, as this is an indication that something is wrong.​
    Blaze, Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]CAPO New Farmer [/h]

    Anybody got a solution if one wanted to have the flower harden up rather than keep on flowering pistils.
    The only thing that i have found in past grows is to cut out all nitrogen, increase cal/mag, and raise the lights. Would a shorter 'lights on' time help?
    Anyone?​
    CAPO, Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]Rolln J Guest [/h]

    if your increasing cal mag your still giving nitrogen - I cut cal mag late in flowering - shorter time on sure might help them finish...

    raising the lights last few weeks seems to help with resin production/flavor​
    Rolln J, Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]VelvetElvis New Farmer [/h]

    the heat causes more foxtailing... i still dont understand all this misuse of cal mag.. im not saying this about you guys, but my god i think i have to start bottling some myself for sale...

    i would cut nitrogen get light temps down, and fresh air in. anything mostly sativa tho is destined to be fluffy

    dense hard nugs sems to be my achilles heal, but have found much improvment with my suggestions..​
    VelvetElvis, Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]Lost New Farmer [/h]

    VelvetElvis said: ↑
    the heat causes more foxtailing... i still dont understand all this misuse of cal mag.. im not saying this about you guys, but my god i think i have to start bottling some myself for sale...​
    Some Kush strains will not do so well without it. I mean like they eat 2x what a normal plant does.. Nutes can be pretty strain based..
    Lost, Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]M.S.T. Farmer [/h]

    Great thread, I still got a lot to learn.​
    M.S.T., Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]SailerJerry New Farmer [/h]

    I've had hazes that fox tailed on me late into flowering like day 70 up to day 85 when I chop it but I never had any problems. Actually some of the best pictures I took of my plants had foxtails and just made the cola look like a mutant. Even if its a trait people don't like I think sometimes it looks sick in pictures.​
    SailerJerry, Jan 25, 2010
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  • [h=3]OldSchool New Farmer [/h]

    Using SuperThrive in flowering period will also cause foxtailing. SuperThrive should not be used in flowering, cause of Nit/urea, & foxtailing

    Peace​
    OldSchool, Jan 31, 2010
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  • [h=3]CannaCrone New Farmer [/h]

    This happened to my indoor grow when the timer accidentally got bumped and upped the light period very late in flower. Buds started foxtailing like crazy and added on tons of new trichs. We discovered the mishap too late. We couldn't figure out what was taking them so long to finish. Duh! The buds did not finish off. We had amber, white, and clear in nearly even proportions and the stuff tasted crappy. We made some decent bubble hash with it tho.

    CC​
    CannaCrone, Feb 2, 2010
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  • [h=3]Kennie_B New Farmer [/h]

    OldSchool said: ↑
    Using SuperThrive in flowering period will also cause foxtailing. SuperThrive should not be used in flowering, cause of Nit/urea, & foxtailing

    Peace​
    Is this really true?​
    Kennie_B, Feb 5, 2010
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  • [h=3]SmokeMan Guest [/h]

    I think it happens naturally in some strains. I have a clone only(catalyst) that foxtails everytime no matter what when she is about done.​
    SmokeMan, Feb 5, 2010
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Foxtailing?

Discussion in 'General Indoor Growing' started by Mr.LovaLova, Jan 23, 2010.




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  • Mr.LovaLova New Farmer


    I have seen this term used a few times and have read through the forums but can't find a clear answer to what foxtailing actually is. Can someone help a brother out?​
    Mr.LovaLova, Jan 23, 2010
    #1

  • nughit New Farmer


    Foxtailing is when the calexs grow out past the bud.​
    nughit, Jan 23, 2010
    #2

  • PureSugar New Farmer


    Here a pict is worth a thousand words:​
    Attached Files:

    PureSugar, Jan 23, 2010
    #3



  • hellboysavage New Farmer


    i always wondered this to is this do to bad breeding are what causes this just curios​
    hellboysavage, Jan 23, 2010
    #4

  • Lost New Farmer


    Its the strain or even the pheno. Its pretty cool because mine started out tight nugs and then kept foztailing.. Gunna pull her in a few days.. She's all cloudy now
    Lost, Jan 23, 2010
    #5

  • Rolln J Guest


    heat and too much co2 too late in flowering can cause this as well​
    Rolln J, Jan 23, 2010
    #6

  • Tank Fillerman Guest


    Shooting Powder can also cause this when misused or used on the wrong strain. Same with nitrites.​
    Tank Fillerman, Jan 23, 2010
    #7

  • Rolln J Guest


    froggy:

    well it actually makes for more trimming and weird looking buds - lots of times when they are foxtailing they are not finishing up - it is a prevalent trait in many long flowering sativas​
    Rolln J, Jan 23, 2010
    #8

  • burnalot420 Breeder


    u da man rj!!!​
    burnalot420, Jan 25, 2010
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  • Blaze Active Farmer


    It is not always a bad trait to have. Some excellent strains, like Blue Moonshine, always foxtail before finishing. It tends to be a trait associated with strains that have a sativa, particularly thai sativa, in their genetic make-up.

    It is bad when a strain that normally does not do it foxtails, as this is an indication that something is wrong.​
    Blaze, Jan 25, 2010
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  • CAPO New Farmer


    Anybody got a solution if one wanted to have the flower harden up rather than keep on flowering pistils.
    The only thing that i have found in past grows is to cut out all nitrogen, increase cal/mag, and raise the lights. Would a shorter 'lights on' time help?
    Anyone?​
    CAPO, Jan 25, 2010
    #11

  • Rolln J Guest


    if your increasing cal mag your still giving nitrogen - I cut cal mag late in flowering - shorter time on sure might help them finish...

    raising the lights last few weeks seems to help with resin production/flavor​
    Rolln J, Jan 25, 2010
    #12

  • VelvetElvis New Farmer


    the heat causes more foxtailing... i still dont understand all this misuse of cal mag.. im not saying this about you guys, but my god i think i have to start bottling some myself for sale...

    i would cut nitrogen get light temps down, and fresh air in. anything mostly sativa tho is destined to be fluffy

    dense hard nugs sems to be my achilles heal, but have found much improvment with my suggestions..​
    VelvetElvis, Jan 25, 2010
    #13

  • Lost New Farmer


    VelvetElvis said: &#8593;
    the heat causes more foxtailing... i still dont understand all this misuse of cal mag.. im not saying this about you guys, but my god i think i have to start bottling some myself for sale...​
    Some Kush strains will not do so well without it. I mean like they eat 2x what a normal plant does.. Nutes can be pretty strain based..
    Lost, Jan 25, 2010
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  • M.S.T. Farmer


    Great thread, I still got a lot to learn.​
    M.S.T., Jan 25, 2010
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  • SailerJerry New Farmer


    I've had hazes that fox tailed on me late into flowering like day 70 up to day 85 when I chop it but I never had any problems. Actually some of the best pictures I took of my plants had foxtails and just made the cola look like a mutant. Even if its a trait people don't like I think sometimes it looks sick in pictures.​
    SailerJerry, Jan 25, 2010
    #16

  • OldSchool New Farmer


    Using SuperThrive in flowering period will also cause foxtailing. SuperThrive should not be used in flowering, cause of Nit/urea, & foxtailing

    Peace​
    OldSchool, Jan 31, 2010
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  • CannaCrone New Farmer


    This happened to my indoor grow when the timer accidentally got bumped and upped the light period very late in flower. Buds started foxtailing like crazy and added on tons of new trichs. We discovered the mishap too late. We couldn't figure out what was taking them so long to finish. Duh! The buds did not finish off. We had amber, white, and clear in nearly even proportions and the stuff tasted crappy. We made some decent bubble hash with it tho.

    CC​
    CannaCrone, Feb 2, 2010
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  • Kennie_B New Farmer


    OldSchool said: &#8593;
    Using SuperThrive in flowering period will also cause foxtailing. SuperThrive should not be used in flowering, cause of Nit/urea, & foxtailing

    Peace​
    Is this really true?​
    Kennie_B, Feb 5, 2010
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  • SmokeMan Guest


    I think it happens naturally in some strains. I have a clone only(catalyst) that foxtails everytime no matter what when she is about done.​
    SmokeMan, Feb 5, 2010
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I have never quoted a whole tread from another site before! I do keep seeing that super thrive in flowering can cause this
 
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I have never quoted a whole tread from another site before! I do keep seeing that super thrive in flowering can cause this
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well always a first time lol
i did it to show that in some strains it is ok they say and others not prone to FT it is not good
so just to say its ok is not really ok

and i noticed that superthrive does get blamed for it also
 
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