Brown Spots, Red Stems, and Yellow Leaves (pics)

chuck estevez said:

well water is fine, put it in your 55 gal and add stone to aerate. Get some cal/mag. that will fix your problem. Keep it simple. I would forget what this other dude is telling you. he is clueless.

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no do not add the stone

i did this with a 7 gallon brew bucket with spigot to make watering easy .........if u add the stone stuff will form in the water u get a slime on the air hose and stone (figured oxygenated water was better) i ended up cleaning it up every 2 weeks ......i am well water

i still use the set up with the bucket but no stone no trouble no slime no issue now for 7 months .........if u are flushing the plants add a airstone u will use up all the water and keep the droop from lasting long but do not leave it in running

Like I said, CLUELESS. I'm not even getting into it with you over why you don't have stagnant water. wonder how they use stones in fishtanks with no slime problems.

chuck estevez said:

Like I said, CLUELESS. I'm not even getting into it with you over why you don't have stagnant water. wonder how they use stones in fishtanks with no slime problems.

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water in a fish tank is running tho a carbon filter none stop

i done the exp i know the results .........water can be stored for 30 days before it turns and unuseable for humans for plants the water can sit for 3 months as long as covered

ever seen a fish tank with no filter in it .......any child has called finding NEMO (got a nephew it is how the fish escapes the alge builds up from the oxygen lvl being high with no filter to clean the water of it)

justugh said:

water in a fish tank is running tho a carbon filter none stop

i done the exp i know the results .........water can be stored for 30 days before it turns and unuseable for humans for plants the water can sit for 3 months as long as covered

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he is storing it to use every couple days, the carbon filter has nothing to do with the air stone. damn, are you really this dumb?

Plants have a nitrogen problem,any fast acting nitrate will green then right up.As stated before you shouldn't use distilled/ro if you can avoid it.It will just flush out your minerals.If you are trying to stay organic look into hydrolyzed fish,neptunes harvest makes a pretty good one.

chuck estevez said:

he is storing it to use every couple days, the carbon filter has nothing to do with the air stone. damn, are you really this dumb?

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try it your way tell me i am wrong in 2 weeks about the slime feel to the hose /airstone

wait i was wrong i thought of one way it could work

add a UVC light into the tank to kill everything

Haha I appreciate all the advice guys you all make valid points... The 55 gallons lasts me about 2 weeks cuz I use it for my humidifier so I think I should be safe to use it without a stone... I do have some hydrolized fish... Should I foilar feed it or drench it... I was just doing some research that said add it into a tea with bat guano... Sound good? But then that would Probly stink to high hell

BillyBlanks420 said:

Haha I appreciate all the advice guys you all make valid points... The 55 gallons lasts me about 2 weeks cuz I use it for my humidifier so I think I should be safe to use it without a stone... I do have some hydrolized fish... Should I foilar good it or French it... I was just doing some research that said add it into a tea with bat guano... Sound good?

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your plants are dying. the only thing you should do is water them with some cal/mag until they look healthy again. then start using your teas and try and build up your soil.

All right so if I need cal mag then organically that would be Epsom salts or dolomite lime right?

BillyBlanks420 said:

All right so if I need cal mag then organically that would be Epsom salts or dolomite lime right?

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holy crap
1 the plant is not showing any signs of a need for cal mag+ (that has no npk value at all)
2 the plant is showing red vein in early veggie ......a clear sign N is needed badly
3 the leaves are yellow under sized and sparse......this means 1 of 2 things 1 it needs N badly 2 it need IRON (not 100% sure but not sure that is in cal mag+)
4 u need to cause rooting this needs N some P and some K plus some chemical hormones that tell the roots grow
5 sunshine #4 is known to be low in any NPK
6 your tea is not working due to the soil not having the power for the plant (something like roots organic it would have but #4 does not have the power in it just micro/fungi)
7 u need time to get the soil ready if u had it all and did the work 5 mins after reading this it will still be 2 weeks before the soil is ready your plants are not going to last that long and even if u can recover them now it is going to be 3/4 weeks extra veggie time to get them to recover and fill out
8 top dressing is normally used on plants much bigger and able to take the shock of it flowing down over the roots
9 super soil is ment to be used on the bottom 1/3-1/2 of the plant when it has grown up and out and down getting it for the flowering stage

for all those reasons i stand by my original posting to save your plants and make them produce what u hope on a time frame near what i am assuming u want

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9A the top part of the planter is ment to be something decent like dr earth potting soil or roots organic or even FFOF ....it has power for the plant but not super power

spend a little while and look
u will see your plant is not showing any signs of needing CalMg+

2 things cause yellowing of the leaves that much low N and low Iron

this is the last post .......u want to save the plants do what i said u will end up with a crop to recover your money on expenses other wise in 2 weeks they are going to be throw out and u are starting over

So I just started to brew a tea to help my babies based on the advice I ph'd a gallon of warm well water then added 1 tbsp of 15-1-1 bat guano a sprinkle of dolomite lime a couple dashes of fish hydrolysate and a little less than a half an ounce of Nourish-l 3 % liquid humic acids gunna brew it for 24 hrs n see what it does lol I feel like a mad scientist

I transplanted into roots yesterday in a 3 gallon fabric pot... The extra veg time is ok since these hopefully make it to June 21st and then flower outside till late mid October and I can harvest a lb or more off each I kno I should be mixing and cooking the soil now but I've already transplanted into the 3 and it is going to take them a long time (I'm assuming) to fill out the pot.... My well water has lots of iron, hopefully that will help... The top dressing was a concern for me cuz of the plants being so young so that's why I'm brewing thanks for all ur input just

BillyBlanks420 said:

I transplanted into roots yesterday in a 3 gallon fabric pot... The extra veg time is ok since these hopefully make it to June 21st and then flower outside till late mid October and I can harvest a lb or more off each I kno I should be mixing and cooking the soil now but I've already transplanted into the 3 and it is going to take them a long time (I'm assuming) to fill out the pot.... My well water has lots of iron, hopefully that will help... The top dressing was a concern for me cuz of the plants being so young so that's why I'm brewing thanks for all ur input just

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the 21st they will be huge 7 gallon planters or bigger

i grow auto plants so the need to read them and understand how to feed to produce

if u apply this to a photo plant ........the plant will become a monster (meaning holy shit i made this beast how the hell am i going to do this alone)

If they get too big I'll have to move them out early but my buddy has done his research n tells me they will preflower if they get moved out before the days start to get shorter because of the light schedule there on... The plan is to slowly drop them down at 15 minute intervals till it gets to like 16-8 to avoid any stress... Hoping it all works out

Ya man your soil doesnt have the POWA!

Lol

Resinhound said:

Ya man your soil doesnt have the POWA!

Lol

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can't say I didn't try. some people just want to follow the idiots

justugh said:

holy crap
1 the plant is not showing any signs of a need for cal mag+ (that has no npk value at all)
2 the plant is showing red vein in early veggie ......a clear sign N is needed badly
3 the leaves are yellow under sized and sparse......this means 1 of 2 things 1 it needs N badly 2 it need IRON (not 100% sure but not sure that is in cal mag+)
4 u need to cause rooting this needs N some P and some K plus some chemical hormones that tell the roots grow
5 sunshine #4 is known to be low in any NPK
6 your tea is not working due to the soil not having the power for the plant (something like roots organic it would have but #4 does not have the power in it just micro/fungi)
7 u need time to get the soil ready if u had it all and did the work 5 mins after reading this it will still be 2 weeks before the soil is ready your plants are not going to last that long and even if u can recover them now it is going to be 3/4 weeks extra veggie time to get them to recover and fill out
8 top dressing is normally used on plants much bigger and able to take the shock of it flowing down over the roots
9 super soil is ment to be used on the bottom 1/3-1/2 of the plant when it has grown up and out and down getting it for the flowering stage

for all those reasons i stand by my original posting to save your plants and make them produce what u hope on a time frame near what i am assuming u want

edit
9A the top part of the planter is ment to be something decent like dr earth potting soil or roots organic or even FFOF ....it has power for the plant but not super power

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LOL, Clueless

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