Bridgelux EB Series Build

PicklesRus

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Yeah I'm doing very similar nowadays - Samsungs or EBs straight onto alu angle. It is pretty much the cheapest good DIY option out there right now I think. It's so easy and no shipping heavy heatsinks!
Well a CPU cooler isn't expensive and you can buy them from the local computer store. It looks like a vero 29 build could work out around the same price and get you better effeciency overal. You can however get better coverage at a closer distance with the strips.
 
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RandomHero8913

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Can we just cut a piece of the optic out where the pcb connectors are then? Can you post a link?
You could. With a stencil you could be spot on. I placed it on top and made some marks with a sharpie and used a dremel with the cutting blades to cut it out. It didn't turn out great. Doing it again I would try out a router attachment.
 

PicklesRus

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You could. With a stencil you could be spot on. I placed it on top and made some marks with a sharpie and used a dremel with the cutting blades to cut it out. It didn't turn out great. Doing it again I would try out a router attachment.
Can you take a couple pictures, and show how you attached the lens?
 

RandomHero8913

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That the thing, I never ended up attaching it. The lens would have been connected to the heatsink with the clamps/clips. But I was also only running four strips and have plenty of room between them and the cobs for the clips.

I didn't end up using them because with the butchering job I did, the optics were barely covering the LEDs around the solderless holders. This was also an experiment using the Samsungs but I feel like its still relevant as they both have holders.
 

muleface

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Per decree of the Mouse, roughly 38 (actually 39) watts per sf.

This is my bridgelux EB light. 10 strips in the 3500k temp. Using 2 - 250w 1050 ma drivers. Its on a 3x4 frame (roughly)

This thing is bright. I was looking at it when i turned in on, that was not a good choice.

at 29 inches its putting out 20k lux.

I turned it down to 468 watts. It was at around 524 watts

The lighting is very even, I am a huge fan.

Anyone have any heating issues with them? They were warm to the touch after about 5 minutes on, but i wouldn't say hot. I don't have any heat sinks on them, they are just attached at the ends and i have one beam in the middle for stability. Should I have attached them to L bars all the way down?

This is going in my garden in the next day or so, it will be going over established plants, so it will be hard to tell how well it works.
 

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BuddyColas

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Per decree of the Mouse, roughly 38 (actually 39) watts per sf.

This is my bridgelux EB light. 10 strips in the 3500k temp. Using 2 - 250w 1050 ma drivers. Its on a 3x4 frame (roughly)

This thing is bright. I was looking at it when i turned in on, that was not a good choice.

at 29 inches its putting out 20k lux.

I turned it down to 468 watts. It was at around 524 watts

The lighting is very even, I am a huge fan.

Anyone have any heating issues with them? They were warm to the touch after about 5 minutes on, but i wouldn't say hot. I don't have any heat sinks on them, they are just attached at the ends and i have one beam in the middle for stability. Should I have attached them to L bars all the way down?

This is going in my garden in the next day or so, it will be going over established plants, so it will be hard to tell how well it works.
Very nice even light spread. I have ran mine just like that at 700ma with no problem, but not at 1000ma. Please measure the voltage droop from cold to stable. I actually count to 5 and take a measurement, then however long it takes to stabilize. That will tell you a lot about how hot they really are. Inquiring minds want to know!
 

muleface

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Very nice even light spread. I have ran mine just like that at 700ma with no problem, but not at 1000ma. Please measure the voltage droop from cold to stable. I actually count to 5 and take a measurement, then however long it takes to stabilize. That will tell you a lot about how hot they really are. Inquiring minds want to know!
the lights dropped about 10 watts over about 10 minutes. so about 1 watt per strip, they were pretty warm after 10 minutes, not burning my fingers hot, but pretty warm. I'll take some thermo pictures tomorrow and get a reading.
 

BuddyColas

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the lights dropped about 10 watts over about 10 minutes. so about 1 watt per strip, they were pretty warm after 10 minutes, not burning my fingers hot, but pretty warm. I'll take some thermo pictures tomorrow and get a reading.
I'm taking it you are using the "wall watts" to measure droop, and it's a little over 2%. I think if you had a breeze blowing over the backs of those strips it would help a lot. I am running 6 strips at 1080ma, but I have an old T-5 case as a heatsink. It will be interesting to see how you do with your new light. Thanks for the info.
 

brahbbyB

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@brahbbyB

How are you liking your aluminum sheet and frame? I'm building two 2'x4' lights and it seems like what you did is the most economical option....
Sorry for disappearing on the thread. Its working out pretty well. (nothing to compare it to as this is my first attempt). Light staying around 80F @600ma with 2 fans blowing around (+vent)in a 48x30 tent. Running in a basement in the low 60s.

Vegged for 6 weeks @600ma (24/0) and just flipped to flower Sunday @900ma. I gave 1 of 2seeds the Lenny treatment and killed it,replanted, so one girl is only 4 weeks. I will post some pictures tonight. Very happy with how they are turning out so far. The older one has just about filled a 24x30 scrog.

With my small sample size, the 4K seems to produce really tight node spacing. Have a GSC and OG Kush x NY diesel. I ran them in veg at 600ma ~10-12 inches away on my 9 strip rig. Temps in tent holding around 70 at the canopy with a constant 4in vent fan.

Overall, starting over, I would have wired light up to only run the center strips for seedlings and put the rig closer.
 

ThaiBaby1

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the lights dropped about 10 watts over about 10 minutes. so about 1 watt per strip, they were pretty warm after 10 minutes, not burning my fingers hot, but pretty warm. I'll take some thermo pictures tomorrow and get a reading.
The real test is how hot they are after 12 hours. I plan on a 12 board build on a 2x4 aluminum plate and I worry it wont be cool enough.
 

MrTwist1

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Well a CPU cooler isn't expensive and you can buy them from the local computer store. It looks like a vero 29 build could work out around the same price and get you better effeciency overal. You can however get better coverage at a closer distance with the strips.
You might be right. I haven't priced out the Vero's so I'll take your word for it. I have done the whole CPU cooler thing and I'm over it. I am all about keeping it simple these days. Strips on angles is cheap and easy.
 

PicklesRus

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You might be right. I haven't priced out the Vero's so I'll take your word for it. I have done the whole CPU cooler thing and I'm over it. I am all about keeping it simple these days. Strips on angles is cheap and easy.
True that. Im contemplating how many more strips are needed and the extra cost. They work really well for even light canopy. I run strips in a metal rack to grow lettuce. I dont see myself doing that with big cobs.

these strips are so good for tight spaces
 

muleface

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You might be right. I haven't priced out the Vero's so I'll take your word for it. I have done the whole CPU cooler thing and I'm over it. I am all about keeping it simple these days. Strips on angles is cheap and easy.
I'm not a big fan of the CPU cooling idea. Too many moving parts, too many things to break. Robin had some pretty nice passive heat sinks over at northern grow lights. Are you thinking you can run cobs with angles or strips? I run Vero's and they are nice. If you want to save some hassle, digikey has quick connects for Vero's, they are pretty reasonable, like 1.50 each or so. Otherwise you have to solder them. Which I not great at doing.
 

MrTwist1

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True that. Im contemplating how many more strips are needed and the extra cost. They work really well for even light canopy. I run strips in a metal rack to grow lettuce. I dont see myself doing that with big cobs.

these strips are so good for tight spaces
Agreed. I'm growing in some small spaces too and the strips have made my life so much easier.
 

MrTwist1

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I'm not a big fan of the CPU cooling idea. Too many moving parts, too many things to break. Robin had some pretty nice passive heat sinks over at northern grow lights. Are you thinking you can run cobs with angles or strips? I run Vero's and they are nice. If you want to save some hassle, digikey has quick connects for Vero's, they are pretty reasonable, like 1.50 each or so. Otherwise you have to solder them. Which I not great at doing.
I think COBs emit too much heat to be dissipated by alu angle alone.... unless they were being run mega soft.
 

BuddyColas

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You might be right. I haven't priced out the Vero's so I'll take your word for it. I have done the whole CPU cooler thing and I'm over it. I am all about keeping it simple these days. Strips on angles is cheap and easy.
So what size of angles are you using and how hard are you running your strips? Thanks.
 
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