Breeding an auto?

so I got my hands on some fast buds gorilla glue fem autos and buddah seeds magnum reg autos.

my plan is to plant one seed of each for every grow and keep them in the same tent, if i happen to get a male magnum. im gonna let it break its condom all over the glue.

my question is. are the seeds most likely going to be auto. and because im using a feminized gorilla. is there a chance for the seeds to be mostly female?.

i do plan on actually making a new strain out the two, and calling it super gorilla (Patent pending)

I believe the seeds would be reg seeds. The only way I can see getting fem seeds from it is if the fem were self pollinated.

HolyGhost23 said:

so I got my hands on some fast buds gorilla glue fem autos and buddah seeds magnum reg autos.

my plan is to plant one seed of each for every grow and keep them in the same tent, if i happen to get a male magnum. im gonna let it break its condom all over the glue.

my question is. are the seeds most likely going to be auto. and because im using a feminized gorilla. is there a chance for the seeds to be mostly female?.

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What's a regular auto ?

I never had a male pop from an auto ..... Maybe it could but you can extend your seed stock by hitting a branch or two on the gorilla AND magnum ..... With COLLODIAL SILVER OR TIRESAS MIST. I am growing out a strain solely to CONVERT it to a female pollen plant - the LADYNUTS that form will have viable " FEMMY " pollen to dust the flowering plant of the same strain or for another one to get them to seed.

With yours , it would work perfectly by making pollen of gorilla and magnum separately
THEN dust flowers of opposite strain to make ( 2 versions ) of the cross .
AND THEN ... You could cross again .... With one of the offspring seeds.

HolyGhost23 said:

so I got my hands on some fast buds gorilla glue fem autos and buddah seeds magnum reg autos.

my plan is to plant one seed of each for every grow and keep them in the same tent, if i happen to get a male magnum. im gonna let it break its condom all over the glue.

my question is. are the seeds most likely going to be auto. and because im using a feminized gorilla. is there a chance for the seeds to be mostly female?.

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They will be auto flowering and 50/50 male female....

if i was to keep breeding. being that that they would be 50/50 male female. is there a chance i could breed the auto trait out or would every generation be auto. if i was to just keep inbreeding until i got what i wanted.

a reg auto is a female or male auto. the auto trait is either someone genitally modified the photo sensitive part out. or there actually is an autoflower land race that got bred with regular photo strains. its just odd that auto flowers were not a thing until recently. came out of the blue just like that.

HolyGhost23 said:

if i was to keep breeding. being that that they would be 50/50 male female. is there a chance i could breed the auto trait out or would every generation be auto. if i was to just keep inbreeding until i got what i wanted.

a reg auto is a female or male auto. the auto trait is either someone genitally modified the photo sensitive part out. or there actually is an autoflower land race that got bred with regular photo strains. its just odd that auto flowers were not a thing until recently. came out of the blue just like that.

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Sort of... they didn't just come out of the blue... botanists have been crossing Russian Ruderalis since the late 70s. It is not a genetic mod thing, just careful breeding with an understanding of Mendelian genetics. For years people thought autos weren't useful until Lowryder hit the scene... Ruderalis wasn't potent enough until the good doctor made his strain. It just became popular in the past ten years or so when Lowryder hit the market, then about 5 years ago there was an EXPLOSION of crosses and stable auto lines and now mostly just femmed autos. Funny, they realized if we have to buy their fem seeds novice growers will have to keep buying from the producers. Reg autos are very hard to find now... breed those so you don't have to order seeds again!

Here's a simple breakdown on the breeding question for you:

AutoXAuto= always auto

Fem AutoXReg Auto= Always Reg Auto, slightly higher chance to get an occasional hermie (depending on how the previous breeder femmed it)

Fem Auto+Colloidal SilverX Fem Auto= Fem Auto

Auto x Photoperiod= always photoperiod. Cross the offspring again and you have a 25% chance of getting an auto in the next generation. Cross two autos from this generation....BOOM! 100% auto seeds from the auto x auto cross.

SO if you cross an auto with a photoperiod, then cross the offspring (F1), then cross the autos from the next generation (F2), you get 100% Auto from that in F3. For a more stable strain and higher odds of consistency you can save some F2 pollen with an F3 female to get more consistent traits across the board in F4. This is called "back crossing" and is a very powerful breeding technique to make truly stable strains.

Look up Mendelian genetics and punnet squares to see how I worked the math on this stuff, but once you learn how you can breed a bit more cleverly and fpget the traits you want, FYI Auto is a recessive trait, photo is dominant.

I hope that helps bud!

HolyGhost23 said:

so I got my hands on some fast buds gorilla glue fem autos and buddah seeds magnum reg autos.

my plan is to plant one seed of each for every grow and keep them in the same tent, if i happen to get a male magnum. im gonna let it break its condom all over the glue.

my question is. are the seeds most likely going to be auto. and because im using a feminized gorilla. is there a chance for the seeds to be mostly female?.

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Dihybrid cross. The phenotypes of two independent traits show a 9:3:3:1 ratio in the F2 generation.

In this example, coat color is indicated by B (brown, dominant) or b (white), while tail length is indicated by S (short, dominant) or s (long).

When parents are homozygous for each trait (SSbb and ssBB), their children in the F1 generation are heterozygous at both loci and only show the dominant phenotypes (SsbB).

If the children mate with each other, in the F2 generation all combinations of coat color and tail length occur: 9 are brown/short (purple boxes), 3 are white/short (pink boxes), 3 are brown/long (blue boxes) and 1 is white/long (green box). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance)

google Mendelian_inheritance

good luck

vostok said:

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Dihybrid cross. The phenotypes of two independent traits show a 9:3:3:1 ratio in the F2 generation.

In this example, coat color is indicated by B (brown, dominant) or b (white), while tail length is indicated by S (short, dominant) or s (long).

When parents are homozygous for each trait (SSbb and ssBB), their children in the F1 generation are heterozygous at both loci and only show the dominant phenotypes (SsbB).

If the children mate with each other, in the F2 generation all combinations of coat color and tail length occur: 9 are brown/short (purple boxes), 3 are white/short (pink boxes), 3 are brown/long (blue boxes) and 1 is white/long (green box). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance)

google Mendelian_inheritance

good luck

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Love it.

this is why i love this forum. good scientific answers..

I do not want to hijack this thread but when would you hit a auto with cs?

Autos are the premature ejaculators of the cannabis world.

maxamus1 said:

I do not want to hijack this thread but when would you hit a auto with cs?

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wtf is cs? I don't mix Counter Strike with my plants.. that's for my pc....

an update. thanks to you guys i have 450 auto seeds that i made for free.. man living up north sucks. but autos make the summer days kinda nice.

ANC said:

Autos are the premature ejaculators of the cannabis world.

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yes they are. great for short summers with long days.. try living in 20/4.. whit 4/20 in the winter...lol

vostok said:

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Dihybrid cross. The phenotypes of two independent traits show a 9:3:3:1 ratio in the F2 generation.

In this example, coat color is indicated by B (brown, dominant) or b (white), while tail length is indicated by S (short, dominant) or s (long).

When parents are homozygous for each trait (SSbb and ssBB), their children in the F1 generation are heterozygous at both loci and only show the dominant phenotypes (SsbB).

If the children mate with each other, in the F2 generation all combinations of coat color and tail length occur: 9 are brown/short (purple boxes), 3 are white/short (pink boxes), 3 are brown/long (blue boxes) and 1 is white/long (green box). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance)

google Mendelian_inheritance

good luck

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golden ratio math....

also for autos what traits are dom. short fat little fuckers?. i just did a photo strain as a test and got 150 seeds from a single a little bud. but i crossed a tall lanky bitch with a very stubby fat dude... im hoping for something in the middle.. am i gonna get short and fat /lnaky children or will there be a result out of the 150 of the pheno i want.

basically how many children do I need to find the alpha female of both gens. if its a 9:3:3:1 ratio then i assume 9 plants at min for alpha female

HolyGhost23 said:

wtf is cs? I don't mix Counter Strike with my plants.. that's for my pc....

an update. thanks to you guys i have 450 auto seeds that i made for free.. man living up north sucks. but autos make the summer days kinda nice.

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Colloidal silver

maxamus1 said:

Colloidal silver

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for fem seeds?. id recommend about 3 weeks to 6 weeks. 6 weeks is tiny seeds might not all germ. 3 weeks nice fat nuts. don't spray a male with cs.. you wanna spray it in micro droplets and not much you should find a ratio.. if people give different ones start in the middle and work out from there. i haven't tried collided silver in years i do 10,000 seed runs so i never run out of what ever i like. i had texadea timewarp i still have the first batch of seeds i made but there getting old even stored at 3C their entire life there now 12 years old. from a back Cross of 10 seeds i made from the best female and male i had . they were a close to og texeada timewarp cross .. timewarp indeed.

HolyGhost23 said:

for fem seeds?. id recommend about 3 weeks to 6 weeks. 6 weeks is tiny seeds might not all germ. 3 weeks nice fat nuts. don't spray a male with cs.. you wanna spray it in micro droplets and not much you should find a ratio.. if people give different ones start in the middle and work out from there. i haven't tried collided silver in years i do 10,000 seed runs so i never run out of what ever i like. i had texadea timewarp i still have the first batch of seeds i made but there getting old even stored at 3C their entire life there now 12 years old. from a back Cross of 10 seeds i made from the best female and male i had . they were a close to og texeada timewarp cross .. timewarp indeed.

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Awesome thanks

maxamus1 said:

Awesome thanks

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3 weeks to 6 weeks into flower so after you see hairs. they hairs ctach pollen you can pollinate all the way up to 6 weeks if you want nothing but fem seeds. or any seeds.. photo or auto.
if using cs you can use just cs on a female and it will make female seeds.. though there is a slight 2-5% chance of hermie.. i dont care what they tell you .