Bradley Manning’s Father Speaks Out Against Son’s Treatment

Ernst said:

Then why not give him paper clothes?

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Man I'm going to have to start following your threads they get me rolling!

NewGrowth said:

Man I'm going to have to start following your threads they get me rolling!

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I enjoy it. I am a hermit type and intellectual exercise feeds my spirit.

From that notoriously socialist free on-line encyclopaedia that only needed to ask for donations once this year to fund itself for the whole year and expand it's offerings.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_clothing

Girdweed said:

He's a soldier. You give up your Constitutional rights when you enlist or accept a commission.

He has no rights.


If one of my soldiers compromised any information, the ramifications would be nowhere near as pleasant as sleeping naked.

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What army is your army?

I'm retired from US Navy and US Army.

What Army did you serve in? and more importantly, what did you do?

Yeomen and secretaries may have a different experience base to pull from than I.

Girdweed said:

I'm retired from US Navy and US Army.

What Army did you serve in? and more importantly, what did you do?

Yeomen and secretaries may have a different experience base to pull from than I.

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USAF...

I was going to add it's our army not yours.

Ernst said:

I was going to add it's our army not yours.

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I put boots on 6 continents for this country. I'm pretty sure that it's still my Army and my Navy, even if it's being pussified more every year.

I'm assuming from your lackadaisical approach to confidentiality that you were not in a position of authority nor did you deal with classified information.

Thank you for your service just the same.

The fact stand that there are things happening around the world at almost any given moment that would make most folks piddle the carpet. Preserving the ability for folks to bicker about the legality of a plant (or any of the other freedoms that our citizenship are granted) requires diligent and tactful responses around the world. One service member decides that he is more important than the whole (Bradley Manning). He compromises his integrity and risks the lives of many people by detailing information in the way that he did. He burdened our citizens and our government with a substantial cost (financial, manpower-hours, influence, etc...).

We could always turn him loose (naked) in Sangin. Let word slip that Manning has detailed info about troop movement schedules. Some of the indigenous folks would not be so nice as to provide climate control and sufficient nutrient intake.

We aren't talking about directions to a Rainbow Gathering given out by someone who has a 1/4 lb of grass.

Thanks for the wiki link if I could bring back paper clothing as a fad it would make me Kennedy rich

Girdweed said:

He's a soldier. You give up your Constitutional rights when you enlist or accept a commission.

He has no rights.

If one of my soldiers compromised any information, the ramifications would be nowhere near as pleasant as sleeping naked.

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Constitutional rights are Inalienable, says so right on the package.

Are you Civilian and a pot smoker?

Prolly want to bet on the side you ain't gonna serve no more.

Blessings to you man. We have not been in War since WWII officially.

No Gathering on the official level.

Ya'know I think this is a blow job. It's Cheesy too.

Thanks for the effort.

Girdweed said:

I put boots on 6 continents for this country. I'm pretty sure that it's still my Army and my Navy, even if it's being pussified more every year.

I'm assuming from your lackadaisical approach to confidentiality that you were not in a position of authority nor did you deal with classified information.

Thank you for your service just the same.

The fact stand that there are things happening around the world at almost any given moment that would make most folks piddle the carpet. Preserving the ability for folks to bicker about the legality of a plant (or any of the other freedoms that our citizenship are granted) requires diligent and tactful responses around the world. One service member decides that he is more important than the whole (Bradley Manning). He compromises his integrity and risks the lives of many people by detailing information in the way that he did. He burdened our citizens and our government with a substantial cost (financial, manpower-hours, influence, etc...).

We could always turn him loose (naked) in Sangin. Let word slip that Manning has detailed info about troop movement schedules. Some of the indigenous folks would not be so nice as to provide climate control and sufficient nutrient intake.

We aren't talking about directions to a Rainbow Gathering given out by someone who has a 1/4 lb of grass.

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Ernst said:

Are you Civilian and a pot smoker?

Prolly want to bet on the side you ain't gonna serve no more.

Ya'know I think this is a blow job. It's Cheesy too.

Thanks for the effort.

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I'm a civilian pot smoker that can't serve any more due to mobility limitations.

I'm not sure what the cheesy blowjob bit is. Is that some form of innuendo?

As to the goober who can't keep his word, we'll see how it works out for him. I'm betting that it will not be pleasant.

You and I swore to protect his right to speak.
It is yet to be determined his guilt. Give the man some clothes.
I have faith the guards can supervise his use of clothing during report.

WTF?

You in for that Soldier?

Ernst said:

You and I swore to protect his right to speak.
It is yet to be determined his guilt. Give the man some clothes.
I have faith the guards can supervise his use of clothing during report.
WTF?
You in for that Soldier?

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I swore to protect the rights of US Citizens who are civilian.

The Constitution does not address clothing, at least, not that I can remember. Where does the Bill of Rights mention the right to be provided proper attire?

I am against any member of our military who betrays the trust placed upon them. How did your command(s) handle freedom of speech? Unreasonable search? Right to assemble?

The Supreme Court supports the suppression of rights for active service members. This includes contractual obligations.

I don't really understand the line, "You in for that Soldier?". Would you mind restating the question in a simple way so that I can understand the implications?

Girdweed said:

I swore to protect the rights of US Citizens who are civilian.

The Constitution does not address clothing, at least, not that I can remember. Where does the Bill of Rights mention the right to be provided proper attire?

I am against any member of our military who betrays the trust placed upon them. How did your command(s) handle freedom of speech? Unreasonable search? Right to assemble?

The Supreme Court supports the suppression of rights for active service members. This includes contractual obligations.

I don't really understand the line, "You in for that Soldier?". Would you mind restating the question in a simple way so that I can understand the implications?

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I am not convinced. Pretender.

Ernst said:

I am not convinced. Pretender.

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You like to call people names and talk shit behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

Good luck with that occupation.

Girdweed said:

You like to call people names and talk shit behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

Good luck with that occupation.

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Okay, any one care to prove this poster is real?

Maybe I am wrong..

So Reader, when is it proper to make a pre-trial detainee to stand naked at prisoner report?

Would you agree to stand naked at report.. A line up outside your cell where 50 people can examine your junk and make comments about your person?

Never think your future doesn't include judicial prejudice if you join the military.

wow, looks like the us military sure has brainwashing down, works on some anyway.

you are fighting for the land of the free, now do as you are fucking told!

god i hate people.

every morning we should shoot politicians, just to get the day going.

Just think if this would have happened in a muslim country he wouldn't have a head so clothes wouldn't madder.

I don't know I could be wrong but I did serve my country and know the basic drill.
That guy didn't sound like someone who had a clue about what is wrong with the clothes.
One if he was classified as a danger he would be in a padded cell and clothes would be removed.
He would have a hole in the floor for a toilet and be kept in there until a Doctor clears him.
From what I understand and what stands out is that he is not in a suicide watch cell he is just being psychologically abused by having his clothes taken away and made to stand nude on report.
The last time I checked reporting Nude for report was a crime but it's okay in this case?

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The Bigger picture is that the USA has to adjust it's strategy with regards to the Internet and the Age of Social Media..

We fried the Rosenberg's for passing Nuclear Secrets?
These people defeated the Security of the USA?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

So if it's that simple to outwit America then how do we justify the treatment of manning?
If anything we have a chance to shine as the land of justice for treating our persons of conscience well as an example for the world.

Now if I am wrong about that person being a soldier who retired and who was waving the "damn manning flag".. I will apologize but blind hate without social emotion is not good media.

The man is what 19 or 20? We the American people deserve to know he is treated well.
Just imagine it was you that was subject to such detention pre-trial.

So dude takes some risks to release some documents that tells us what are government isn't telling us. Sounds like a hero to me.