Both Democratic and Republican administrations are targeting journalists

Unclebaldrick said:
Well... you are an authority on delusions.

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Either you think the Federal government is fundamentally corrupted or you don't.

Camp 1 things things are okay and need tweaks.

I'm in camp 2; the whole thing is fucked and is totally rigged in favor of the rich.

I really don't care about your opinion, which is why you have only my scorn and ridicule.
 
see4 said:
Even if that were factually accurate, you failed to support the premise of this thread.

"...are targeting..'' - to imply it is currently happening.
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Seeing as a Republican administration currently controls every branch of government, how would you suggest to criticize Democratic politicians who target journalists?
 
INF Flux said:
33,942. That we know about, everything FISA is automatically given a TS classification. It's a rubber stamp, but does have a few rules that the obama administration apparently played fast and loose with.
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i disagree..it's not a rubber stamp but a check..that's what sign-off means..to approve.

you have to read the article..ALL the words.
 
ttystikk said:
Either you think the Federal government is fundamentally corrupted or you don't.

Camp 1 things things are okay and need tweaks.

I'm in camp 2; the whole thing is fucked and is totally rigged in favor of the rich.

I really don't care about your opinion, which is why you have only my scorn and ridicule.
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problem is 2 camp only system.
 
ttystikk said:
Either you think the Federal government is fundamentally corrupted or you don't.

Camp 1 things things are okay and need tweaks.

I'm in camp 2; the whole thing is fucked and is totally rigged in favor of the rich.

I really don't care about your opinion, which is why you have only my scorn and ridicule.
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How's that "Official Novichok dissent" going, Mountain Man? The US, globalist neo-liberals and Israel just pinned the whole thing on a couple of Russian tourists and cathedral enthusiasts who, RT implied strongly, are just a couple of gay travelers to Salisbury (a Mecca for gay Russians for centuries).

That's some good homework. Its "Official".
 
schuylaar said:
i disagree..it's not a rubber stamp but a check..that's what sign-off means..to approve.

you have to read the article..ALL the words.
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So I did research and provided you with a factual answer, as it can be answered with what the public knows. Please return the favor and do some homework. I wonder, how many fisa warrants have been denied?
 
INF Flux said:
So I did research and provided you with a factual answer, as it can be answered with what the public knows. Please return the favor and do some homework. I wonder, how many fisa warrants have been denied?
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and how many on media have been issued?
 
ttystikk said:
Either you think the Federal government is fundamentally corrupted or you don't.

Camp 1 things things are okay and need tweaks.

I'm in camp 2; the whole thing is fucked and is totally rigged in favor of the rich.

I really don't care about your opinion, which is why you have only my scorn and ridicule.
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Do you think that is the real reason Bernie got into politics ? He made it seems he is against the one percent as he became one. His first real paying job was when he got into politics, before then he was pretty much a bum. He willing entered into employment in a arena that you feel is " fucked and is totally rigged in favor of the rich ". Now he is rich. That fucking Bernie is a genius
 
londonfog said:
explain how do you get kicked out of a commune for being lazy ? Bernie was kicked out of a community of hippies for being lazy :shock: WTF.
Sounds like a fucking bum to me.
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Sounds like you bought into unverified right wing propaganda to me because you abhor the fact that populist left progressive policy positions have become overwhelmingly popular among the American people
 
Padawanbater2 said:
Sounds like you bought into unverified right wing propaganda to me because you abhor the fact that populist left progressive policy positions have become overwhelmingly popular among the American people
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Too bad you are so lazy or self centered that you just deny what somebody else said without checking the facts first. Also your flat out denial and flimsy reason should be trademarked with a lobotomists ice pick for a logo. "you abhor the fact that populust left progressive policy" blah blah blah. Dude, you just make that shit up. London is nothing like that. Your anger hormones are interfering with your ability to think. Usually, anyway. Also, the 6 or so candidates you Progressives(TM) might land in Congress hardly represent an overwhelmingly popular movement. Please don't quote opinion polls. If your idea of a politically powerful movement is something like 12 people running and maybe half making it to office then good for you but you are wrong.

About the claim:
The Free Beacon, a viscious right wing media outlet spawned by right wing billionaire Paul Singer took a few pages from a book, "We Are Gods" about a commune in Vermont and made a whole essay about Bernie with some very sensational stuff in it. They say Bernie was asked to leave the commune because his incessant political arguments and debates were resented by commune leaders because work wasn't getting done.

When not reporting on the miracle of life, Sanders spent his time at Myrtle Hill in "endless political discussion," according to Deloz.

Sanders’ idle chatter did not endear him with some of the commune’s residents, who did the backbreaking labor of running the place. Daloz writes that one resident, Craig, "resented feeling like he had to pull others out of Bernie’s orbit if any work was going to get accomplished that day."

Sanders was eventually asked to leave. "When Bernie had stayed for Myrtle’s allotted three days, Craig politely requested that he move on," Daloz writes.

The NY Times wrote a review and toned the rhetoric down with direct quotes:

The paragraphs that grabbed the attention of The Washington Free Beacon and other outlets involve Bernie Sanders, who visited the commune as a newspaper reporter. A man named Craig, one of the group’s leaders, was sympathetic to Sanders’s views, but was bothered by “his penchant for sitting around and talking about ideas when there was so much work to be done. . . . Even though he agreed with almost everything Bernie had to say, he resented feeling like he had to pull others out of Bernie’s orbit if any work was going to get accomplished that day.”

So, yes, Bernie was asked to leave the commune but he was never a member of it.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
Sounds like you bought into unverified right wing propaganda to me because you abhor the fact that populist left progressive policy positions have become overwhelmingly popular among the American people
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are you saying Bernie was never asked to leave a commune ? He was...and the reason was he refused to pull his share of work. Bernie the bum just sat around talkin politics instead of helping. Shame you don't know more about the guy you worship.
 
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