Boomer's 2400w Sour Grape GrowOp w/ ScrOG & CO2
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BooMeR242
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ya everyones got their own methods that work best for them and their strain/setup.dude I feel ya. gettin hard to find stand up people that you can genuinely trust... it's a sad world we're living in.
Fimming is definitely an awesome technique, but I really like the added strength and less shock and faster bounce back from supercropping, but to each his own
&& I was dealing with the same issue of plants too tall and clothes still hung above them in my closet. I took all my clothes out, and happy I did
but im mid-move right now so the clothes will be irrelevant once i get my veg room setup and put the mothers under a new 400w MH lamp
BooMeR242
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cjkthegreat
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Hey BoomSkeet,
Had some question/info for you. I am not sure what the current codition of your sour grapes as of today due to the 45!!! pages of comments. How are they, it seems like they have had some trouble. I have read sour grapes can yeild 6 lbs per plant but im pretty sure this is for outdoor and i am wondering what the yield will be for mine since this will be my first ,second tech but they died in 2 weeks, watering prob.
I have been growing two clones of sour grape since dec. (tried doing 6 before but they died) because it was on the cover of oaksterdam and describe as a good indoor grow. I got a bubble ponics hydro system from stealth hydro for 290 and added a ionic fan. I just started the veg stage and I got to admit I am very excited. One plant is 2 feet tall due to a traggic traggic accident where the bulb fell and cut it right at the base of the stem but as still survived and looks healthy, the other plant is a good 4 feet. I heard that they can grow 2 time its size during flowering so I am not sure what I am going to do in my closet space.
My only prob is I think i got white fungus, and I plan on using soapy water and taking out the little left that I have not already removed. Good Idea?
Do i need to do anything special during the flowering stage?
I have both of my dual spectrum lights going 13 hours a day and swithced my water to bloom nuts (premixed). I think it is a wrap from here.
Had some question/info for you. I am not sure what the current codition of your sour grapes as of today due to the 45!!! pages of comments. How are they, it seems like they have had some trouble. I have read sour grapes can yeild 6 lbs per plant but im pretty sure this is for outdoor and i am wondering what the yield will be for mine since this will be my first ,second tech but they died in 2 weeks, watering prob.
I have been growing two clones of sour grape since dec. (tried doing 6 before but they died) because it was on the cover of oaksterdam and describe as a good indoor grow. I got a bubble ponics hydro system from stealth hydro for 290 and added a ionic fan. I just started the veg stage and I got to admit I am very excited. One plant is 2 feet tall due to a traggic traggic accident where the bulb fell and cut it right at the base of the stem but as still survived and looks healthy, the other plant is a good 4 feet. I heard that they can grow 2 time its size during flowering so I am not sure what I am going to do in my closet space.
My only prob is I think i got white fungus, and I plan on using soapy water and taking out the little left that I have not already removed. Good Idea?
Do i need to do anything special during the flowering stage?
I have both of my dual spectrum lights going 13 hours a day and swithced my water to bloom nuts (premixed). I think it is a wrap from here.
BooMeR242
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this thread so far is mainly a discussion and grow design thread. im most likely goin to start a new grow journal with the new growroom dialed in. this thread grow only has my 5 SG mother plants goin until i take cuttings which will b this week.
regarding ur photoperiod i would stick to 12/12 lights on/off. not 13hrs on/off or however u have it setup. when flowering its best to stick with 12/12. veg stage u can do anywhere from 18hr on to 24hrs on.
if ur plants are actually 4 ft tall then yes ull most likely run out of room in ur closet space. plants usually double once flowering is induced (strain dependant) although SG is not a large plant its considered medium-tall according to the oaksterdam catalog. the 6lb per plant prediction is def for outdoor and id still have to say thats not realistic. i did white widow (60% sativa 40% indica) and it barely got 2lbs dried each plant outdoors and they were monsters.
u had a good amount of questions to ask, do u have a grow journal already rolling urself? if not set one up and paste the link in here and ill come check it out along with other growers im sure. we can help with detailed questions and see pix of wats goin on. if ure thinkin u have powdery mildew (the white fungus ure referring to) then u mite need to just start over. but hope this helps brotha
BooMeR242
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so interesting that ive been reviewing all my books and notes and i came across a theory im finding intriguing... two of my best friends are personal trainers and im familar with supplements for ur body and always wondered if there was such a thing as steroids for plants. well apparently u can supplement female cannabis with estrogen and get amazing results. im assuming u use estrogen and not testorone since its a female plant lol. but the info came from my Cannabis Cultivation book by Mel Thomas and he says u can use birth control pills (1 pill/gal water) "administer one treatment at the commencement of flowering and another treatment 2 weeks before harvest. whether or not it is ethical is for u to decide."
i find this very interesting and considering trying it. buuuut i know nuthin about the benefits or downsides lol. so im hoping sum peeps on here know sum shit about it or have tried or heard sumthing, i havent had a chance to search thru other forums and threads for info regarding this but i def am goin to. other issue is idk how to obtain perscription birth control since the gf uses sum other shit. anyway all ideas plz be heard.
fyi im doin measurements and planning/design all this weekend now that the new pad is vacant and ready to start growing
i find this very interesting and considering trying it. buuuut i know nuthin about the benefits or downsides lol. so im hoping sum peeps on here know sum shit about it or have tried or heard sumthing, i havent had a chance to search thru other forums and threads for info regarding this but i def am goin to. other issue is idk how to obtain perscription birth control since the gf uses sum other shit. anyway all ideas plz be heard.
fyi im doin measurements and planning/design all this weekend now that the new pad is vacant and ready to start growing
Hulk Nugs
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hmm crazy idea, good find boomer. I believe your girl can go to plan parenting and ask for some not to sure though, or just start asking the teen girls around your block hahahaha they can deal them to you
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but seriously getting them might be tricky
Clean house very nice, and the work begins.
to start
.but seriously getting them might be tricky
Clean house very nice, and the work begins.
to start
d.c. beard
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Hey Boomer, there's been a lot of discussion about adding hormones to your mix for the plants. Basically it doesn't work. It's been discredited by several people. Sounds cool at first, but plants are a LOT different than people. Birth control triggers specific areas in the female brain to control the level of hormones produced by her body. Plants don't have brains, and they don't produce or even use estrogen or testosterone.
As a side note, I'm interested though as to what type of birth control is supposed to be used? There are a lot of different types of birth control out there, all with different chemicals in varying amounts. When this urban legend started I think 'the pill' (whatever was basically the first most commonly used drug for this application) was the most common and is what it is based on. Since then there have been a lot of advancements in that area of medicine and there are a lot more options for women now. So I guess what I'm saying is that even if it could somehow work you would have to narrow it down to the one correct drug first anyway.
If your gf happened to be on the correct type of drug necessary, you could just have her call her Dr and say that she lost her script and they will call in another for her at the pharmacy. It will cost some duckets though as we all know how expensive birth control is.
As a side note, I'm interested though as to what type of birth control is supposed to be used? There are a lot of different types of birth control out there, all with different chemicals in varying amounts. When this urban legend started I think 'the pill' (whatever was basically the first most commonly used drug for this application) was the most common and is what it is based on. Since then there have been a lot of advancements in that area of medicine and there are a lot more options for women now. So I guess what I'm saying is that even if it could somehow work you would have to narrow it down to the one correct drug first anyway.
If your gf happened to be on the correct type of drug necessary, you could just have her call her Dr and say that she lost her script and they will call in another for her at the pharmacy. It will cost some duckets though as we all know how expensive birth control is.
BooMeR242
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baha always faded bterz u know this. im all about experimenting and tryin new shiot. fuk it ill poor milk in my shit too and see wat happens haha.
haha ya always about new shit but not thinkin it will work anymore. but def stoked about the new pad. has sum great potential but its gonna take a lot of work to get the grow rooms setup.
haha ya i figured i could send her down to get sum pills no prob. def gonna be a lot of work coming up tho. stay tunedhmm crazy idea, good find boomer. I believe your girl can go to plan parenting and ask for some not to sure though, or just start asking the teen girls around your block hahahaha they can deal them to you
but seriously getting them might be tricky
Clean house very nice, and the work begins.
ya i researched sum shit about usung the estrogen and apparently plants use photoestrogen or sum shit thats diff then humans which makes sense. so im doubting it will have any positive effects using the pills. but its always interesting to find new idea and consider the options. thanks for the info brotha
BooMeR242
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so i got to spend most the day today inspecting the new house and im stoked for all the ideas and growroom setup.
both the rooms are a little diff then i had expected. they share a common wall but each closet is a diff size then the other and Room A is 11.5'x10.5' and Room B is 9.5'x11.5' but its def a good size to work with. the downside is the house is two story and has vaulted cielings and both the grow bedrooms have vaulted ceilings so doin a horizontal lighting mount will b interesting. ill have to make my own beams and supports to hang the lights from and make sure everything is secure. i guess its a good thing since im plannning to do ice boxes and a chiller so ill have to run pvc piping up with the lamps anyways to watercool them. ill get u guys another progress update tomorrow or as soon as new shit goes down
both the rooms are a little diff then i had expected. they share a common wall but each closet is a diff size then the other and Room A is 11.5'x10.5' and Room B is 9.5'x11.5' but its def a good size to work with. the downside is the house is two story and has vaulted cielings and both the grow bedrooms have vaulted ceilings so doin a horizontal lighting mount will b interesting. ill have to make my own beams and supports to hang the lights from and make sure everything is secure. i guess its a good thing since im plannning to do ice boxes and a chiller so ill have to run pvc piping up with the lamps anyways to watercool them. ill get u guys another progress update tomorrow or as soon as new shit goes down
MyGTO2007
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so i got to spend most the day today inspecting the new house and im stoked for all the ideas and growroom setup.
both the rooms are a little diff then i had expected. they share a common wall but each closet is a diff size then the other and Room A is 11.5'x10.5' and Room B is 9.5'x11.5' but its def a good size to work with. the downside is the house is two story and has vaulted cielings and both the grow bedrooms have vaulted ceilings so doin a horizontal lighting mount will b interesting. ill have to make my own beams and supports to hang the lights from and make sure everything is secure. i guess its a good thing since im plannning to do ice boxes and a chiller so ill have to run pvc piping up with the lamps anyways to watercool them. ill get u guys another progress update tomorrow or as soon as new shit goes down
Dude thats gunna be a Sick setup....
BooMeR242
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good meetin u and the wife today at the hempcon bro. next time well swap samples and ill be followin ur new grow. im def starting mine soon so im stoked.
thanks brotha i just hope i can get it clean and organized like ur setup
glad ure along for the ride its gonna get sick soonWow, I can feel it, I'm stoked for you. I too am with you on this one.
dont tease me mang, if u head out ill def be down to pick up sum VK clones to start mothersBoomer, I'm coming to Cali and bringing you some VK clones!
BooMeR242
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so spent a couple hours at the new pad today moving a few things in. my pops came by to check shit out and ran into sum issues with power. the breaker box is only 100amp and we really cant sacrifice any of the breakers from other appliances to apply to the grow room. so now my dad has to hit up the city for a permit (since hes a licensed contractor) to upgrade my breaker box to a 200amp breaker and run new 0gauge wire under ground to the general electric lines. its gonna cost a pretty penny if i have to go thru all this shit especially since this city is known for being stingy about permits. im tryin to rush and research sum other alternatives to upgrading the box but i really dont have a choice if i want to be fire safe and smart. gonna see wats up with a generator too since my dad was saying it could b upwards of $1000-2000 just to upgrade the breaker box. im gonna b using two full 10'x10' rooms to grow in and the power demand of 6x600w lamps 1x1000w lamp 1x400w lamp, 4 fans, 1x1075cfm max inline fan, 2xT5 flouro lamps, 1hp chiller (thats 12,000btu power rating) water pumps, timers, c02 generator, and all the other small bullshit i gotta hookup in the hydro rooms. so this is def my first big challenge.
the issue with both room ceilings being vaulted still busts my balls but we decided ill just use chain to mount the lamps on the slanted studs in the ceiling and it should be fine. i already have the adjustable cord shit thats slick to use to adjust ur lamps with but its not long enough to reach the highest part of the 12' vaulted cieling.
but any suggestions to help me solve my power issue plz let me know wat u guys think.
the issue with both room ceilings being vaulted still busts my balls but we decided ill just use chain to mount the lamps on the slanted studs in the ceiling and it should be fine. i already have the adjustable cord shit thats slick to use to adjust ur lamps with but its not long enough to reach the highest part of the 12' vaulted cieling.
but any suggestions to help me solve my power issue plz let me know wat u guys think.
Drella
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fuck bro, not enough amps! im gonna pray for this one! imo you gotta move up to 200 amps, sorry bro! hopefully there's someone with a better alternative, but my feelings are backed with safety, you don't wanna burn your house down. let me know if you need an investor, lol! im sure youll work it out, you got some good help backing you, good luck bro!
sounds good with the vaulted ceilings, 3/8" hooked lag bolts and some hefty chains will work. i never mind adjusting the chain up and down, but you have a serious setup.
sounds good with the vaulted ceilings, 3/8" hooked lag bolts and some hefty chains will work. i never mind adjusting the chain up and down, but you have a serious setup.