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D_Urbmon

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Anyone here fuck with coco? Been using supersoil with decent results but want to branch out a bit and try a few plants in coco. My local shop has either straight coco or coco + perlite and I have no idea why ch to get. I have researched a bit and opinions on which is better are all over the place. So just seeing what my bodhi brothers have to say
I'm on my first run with coco right now. Well 2nd kinda. Tested a couple plants on a prior run.


So far the plants seem to be lovin it! I feel like there was a window of error in the promix watering that is not here with the coco. 50/50 coco/perlite
 
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kmog33

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I'm on my first run with coco right now. Well 2nd kinda. Tested a couple plants on a prior run.


So far the plants seem to be lovin it! I feel like there was a window of error in the promix watering that is not here with the coco.
Promix tends to hold/retain more water than coco Ime. So that makes sense to me.


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skinny510

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Anyone here fuck with coco? Been using supersoil with decent results but want to branch out a bit and try a few plants in coco. My local shop has either straight coco or coco + perlite and I have no idea why ch to get. I have researched a bit and opinions on which is better are all over the place. So just seeing what my bodhi brothers have to say
Is it Botanicare coco?
 

D_Urbmon

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Promix tends to hold/retain more water than coco Ime. So that makes sense to me.


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Yeah, with the promix to my understanding you want to let it somewhat dry out between waterings. and 8-12 hours difference can mean not dry enough to too dry. And also feeding every other water. Just does not seem optimal to me.

With coco I just water/feed every single day.
 

kmog33

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Yeah, with the promix to my understanding you want to let it somewhat dry out between waterings. and 8-12 hours difference can mean not dry enough to too dry. And also feeding every other water. Just does not seem optimal to me.

With coco I just water every single day.
Yeah I feel that. The only issue I've had with coco is it drying out too fast. But that's on my for using it outside on a 7' plant in a 10 gallon smart pot lol. I don't blame the coco haha.


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D_Urbmon

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Yeah I feel that. The only issue I've had with coco is it drying out too fast. But that's on my for using it outside on a 7' plant in a 10 gallon smart pot lol. I don't blame the coco haha.


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haha yeah bigger pot or more frequent waterings.

Do you mix with perlite or straight coco?
 

waterproof808

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I've only used coco as a partial peat replacement in my own soil mixes. Never done a straight coco run...lot of people warn to keep an eye on Ca deficiencies with coco. I prefer the ease of a well-balanced living soil mix. All the Ph'ing of bottled nutrients with straight coco is too much work for me but people do get killer results and yields if they have the discipline for it.
 

skinny510

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I've only used coco as a partial peat replacement in my own soil mixes. Never done a straight coco run...lot of people warn to keep an eye on Ca deficiencies with coco. I prefer the ease of a well-balanced living soil mix. All the Ph'ing of bottled nutrients with straight coco is too much work for me but people do get killer results and yields if they have the discipline for it.
I'm using coco now but will switch to organic soil for my next run. Just want to use raw amendments instead of buying processed crap from a big corporation.
 

MojoRizing

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Is it Botanicare coco?
Yeah they have the Botanicare pure coco and the perlite mix (aeration and moisture mix) they also have roots organic and cyco brands but these are both coco+perilite. Haven't heard too much of the later brands so will go with the botanicare brand.just need help picking the mix
 

JDGreen

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Yeah, with the promix to my understanding you want to let it somewhat dry out between waterings. and 8-12 hours difference can mean not dry enough to too dry. And also feeding every other water. Just does not seem optimal to me.

With coco I just water/feed every single day.
I use a product similar ro promix. But i mix in some slower release organic materials to reduce feedimg intermittently. Also strong teas allow u to go alittle longer periods(a cpl waters), also large pots (im moving to 10s, and now want a bed) But i dont mind the dry window cuz im pretty available, problem is its hard to leave(for more than 2-4 days). I notice large root systems in soils that dryout fast and evenly.
 

ShyGuru

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Yeah, with the promix to my understanding you want to let it somewhat dry out between waterings. and 8-12 hours difference can mean not dry enough to too dry. And also feeding every other water. Just does not seem optimal to me.

With coco I just water/feed every single day.
If you don't mind my asking what's your feeding regimen? Got a few runs under my belt but still trying to dial in dosing strength and frequency. Like most growers I blasted them with nutes my first run and have since learned less is more. But now I think I might be underfeeding slightly for fear of over doing it. Getting better every run tho and isn't that always the goal? Lol
 

skinny510

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Yeah they have the Botanicare pure coco and the perlite mix (aeration and moisture mix) they also have roots organic and cyco brands but these are both coco+perilite. Haven't heard too much of the later brands so will go with the botanicare brand.just need help picking the mix
The guy I'm learning from swears by the Moisture mix so I've been using that. I water every other day. The other mixes might need watering everyday.
 

D_Urbmon

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If you don't mind my asking what's your feeding regimen? Got a few runs under my belt but still trying to dial is dosing strength and frequency. Like most growers I blasted them with nutes my first run and have since learned less is more. But now I think I might be underfeeding slightly for fear of over doing it. Getting better every run tho and isn't that always the goal? Lol
I like it keep it super simple so I just do the h3ad formula.

6ml micro
9ml bloom
1 gram epsom per gallon and that's it.

pH'd to 5.8-6.0

comes out just over 600ppm


I was basically doing the same thing in promix but

8 micro
14 bloom
half gram epsom

pH'd to 6.5
 

ShyGuru

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I like it keep it super simple so I just do the h3ad formula.

6ml micro
9ml bloom
1 gram epsom per gallon and that's it.

pH'd to 5.8-6.0

comes out just over 600ppm


I was basically doing the same thing in promix but

8 micro
14 bloom
half gram epsom

pH'd to 6.5
You have some amazing plants so you must be doing something right lol. Seems youre running a 2:3 ratio whereas I was going more 1:2.5. I use turface (calcined clay) as my medium so idk if that would account for the difference.
 

D_Urbmon

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You have some amazing plants so you must be doing something right lol. Seems youre running a 2:3 ratio whereas I was going more 1:2.5. I use turface (calcined clay) as my medium so idk if that would account for the difference.
Thanks :) I'm not about buying a ton of products. I'm sure some help but I don't know which ones do haha.

I think the medium can definitely affect what you will want to feed like how the formula I use is different for peat and coco but I have no clue about calcined clay.
 

ShyGuru

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Yeah I hear that. I'm not trying to deal with 20 different bottles, in fact I like to use as few as possible. I tried the dynagrow bloom formula the cycle before last but I believe it had too much N for my situation as every plant ended up a bit leafy. Ran a few of the same clones this cycle using a slightly modified Lucas formula and they were much less leafy. Sorry for all the nutes talk just trying to learn from those more experienced. I'll go back to watching quietly and taking mental notes but thanks for the info
 
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