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TonightYou

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Damn dude this post hit me hard. I been looking to lucas formula lately because to tell you the truth I have no fucking clue what I'm doing when it comes to feeding. Just following the GH drain to waste chart. I'm probably also using a couple products that I don't need.

You also hit me on the wastewater aspect. It's terrible. and I recently learned of the environmental impacts of using peat also(I use promix). Thinking of switching to coco until I burn up the rest of these nutes. I bought big ass fucking bottles 4 and 10 L bottles because the value was too good to pass up compared to small bottles and I have barely dented them over 2 crops there will be over 3/4 left of everything.

I want to switch to some kind of organic soil but I also at the same time by the time I burn these nutes I will probably just have dialed in somewhat and really figured out what I'm doing.
My goal isn't to ever dog on anyone, unless they have a shitty attitude. I know I learn new stuff everyday, and I consider myself a good grower if not at times great. I know I'm not excellent though and even if I were I'd always try to improve.

I think we need to become more aware of the impact we have on the environment. I'm no hippy (not that there is anything wrong with hippies, in fact it's a stupid pejorative) but I know many of us admire the natural beauty of nature particularly being so close to our girls. I've always thought we should be responsible stewards of the earth, and that we do have an impact albeit small individually but very large considering many of us live in such an advanced society. It all adds up.

Anyways, I am not familiar with drain to waste but isn't there a means of recycling the waste either by adding new water and balancing everything out? Just thinking out loud.
 

st0wandgrow

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Switched to organic soil? Care to give me some words of encouragement?

Step one: Buy a couple rubbermaid totes from home depot, and order some worms from here: http://unclejimswormfarm.com/

Get your worm bin rocking while you research putting together an organic soil. 1/3 of your base mix will be compost (or worm poop), and it is the most important part of an organic soil. In the time it takes you to research, and track down the amendments that you will need those worms will be rocking out the worm castings that you'll need.

Any questions, let me know. The organic section has a couple good threads that will give you some ideas. The ROLS thread is particularly good.
 

D_Urbmon

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My goal isn't to ever dog on anyone, unless they have a shitty attitude. I know I learn new stuff everyday, and I consider myself a good grower if not at times great. I know I'm not excellent though and even if I were I'd always try to improve.

I think we need to become more aware of the impact we have on the environment. I'm no hippy (not that there is anything wrong with hippies, in fact it's a stupid pejorative) but I know many of us admire the natural beauty of nature particularly being so close to our girls. I've always thought we should be responsible stewards of the earth, and that we do have an impact albeit small individually but very large considering many of us live in such an advanced society. It all adds up.

Anyways, I am not familiar with drain to waste but isn't there a means of recycling the waste either by adding new water and balancing everything out? Just thinking out loud.
All good man I know you weren't tryin to dog me. I was just pointing out the impact your post had on me at that particular moment. :)

I am a hippy at heart. I might not look like one though. I agree with what you say. I try to be enviro friendly as possible. I have even stopped eating meat and animal products and stopped buying anything with palm oil among other things. 1 change at a time. Ya.... I'm that guy. LOL. To each their own. For me it's more about being educated because I was blind to a lot of stuff/still am.

The drain to waste is simply water to a bit of runoff and pour the runoff down the drain. Low tech hand water. I can post up the feed chart if you care to comment on it.
 

D_Urbmon

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Step one: Buy a couple rubbermaid totes from home depot, and order some worms from here: http://unclejimswormfarm.com/

Get your worm bin rocking while you research putting together an organic soil. 1/3 of your base mix will be compost (or worm poop), and it is the most important part of an organic soil. In the time it takes you to research, and track down the amendments that you will need those worms will be rocking out the worm castings that you'll need.

Any questions, let me know. The organic section has a couple good threads that will give you some ideas. The ROLS thread is particularly good.
Fuckin eh man I'm pretty sure my mom has a compost bin going for her veggie garden. Is a compost bin and a worm bin the same thing?

But that raises thoughts and questions. I've got about 6 crops worth of nutes which I'm not ready to throw out. What a dumb move I might add being a newbie and buying big jugs for value not knowing what the outcome will even be hahaha. Can I keep a worm bin going for over a year without collecting the castings and using them?
 

st0wandgrow

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Fuckin eh man I'm pretty sure my mom has a compost bin going for her veggie garden. Is a compost bin and a worm bin the same thing?

But that raises thoughts and questions. I've got about 6 crops worth of nutes which I'm not ready to throw out. What a dumb move I might add being a newbie and buying big jugs for value not knowing what the outcome will even be hahaha. Can I keep a worm bin going for over a year without collecting the castings and using them?
A compost bin and worm bin are similar. A compost pile usually heats up a good deal and attracts thermophilic organisms that thrive in that environment. A worm bin does not heat up, and does not need to be turned like a compost pile. Generally the same, but some micro organisms will differ. Worm castings are generally thought to be superior for our purposes.

Yes, you could start a bin now and not use the castings for a year. The worms tear through an amazing amount of food once they get settled in, so you could very well run out of room in the bin as it fills up with worm poop and have to start another...... or you could harvest the castings and put the worms right back in there. That would be a great problem to have! :-)

edit: I have both. Two compost bins in the back yard and 3 worm bins in the basement. Like you I decided to be more environmentally aware, and I love that I don't throw any kitchen waste away any more. The worms pretty much eat everything! I'm also using the leaves that I'm raking up from my yard to make leaf mold, which will replace the peat moss that I currently use. My soil will be practically free, almost exclusively made from stuff in and around my yard.
 

Amos Otis

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I understand that dilemma have a large bag of gh kool bloom that was gifted to me and will just sit on my shelf forever because anything I do short blowing it into space would be like pouring oil down the storm drain...
I know a cat that thinks of gh kool bloom in a similar fashion as Classico spaghetti sauce....and the holidays are just ahead....:D:p;)
 

Amos Otis

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I have even stopped eating meat and animal products and stopped buying anything with palm oil among other things. 1 change at a time. Ya.... I'm that guy. LOL. To each their own.
I gave up pork a couple of months ago, which pretty much ended any need for eggs. There went my favorite meal. :cuss:Perhaps it's a coincidence, or the superb fall weather, but I feel noticeably better overall. :mrgreen:
 

TonightYou

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All good man I know you weren't tryin to dog me. I was just pointing out the impact your post had on me at that particular moment. :)

I am a hippy at heart. I might not look like one though. I agree with what you say. I try to be enviro friendly as possible. I have even stopped eating meat and animal products and stopped buying anything with palm oil among other things. 1 change at a time. Ya.... I'm that guy. LOL. To each their own. For me it's more about being educated because I was blind to a lot of stuff/still am.

The drain to waste is simply water to a bit of runoff and pour the runoff down the drain. Low tech hand water. I can post up the feed chart if you care to comment on it.
No I feel ya :)

Same, I don't dress like one or seem like one but I got a little hippy in me for sure. I'm an omnivore, I eat meat and love it. I try to avoid unethical factory farm meat but I couldn't be a vegetarian or vegan for that matter but to each their own.

I just know that a lot of issues our water tables, rivers, and lakes can be harmed by fertilizer run off. Hence my dilemma with disposal of some of the fertilizer I have left over. Especially stuff like gravity which I knew to never use.
 

TonightYou

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I completely failed at a worm bin. I should try again as it would reduce my soil costs.

You guys are making me miss my compost bin! Man the soil that would come out of that was amazing. We would send it to get tested occasionally up to MSU, and I was always amazed at what nature could do with what was otherwise waste
 

st0wandgrow

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I completely failed at a worm bin. I should try again as it would reduce my soil costs.

You guys are making me miss my compost bin! Man the soil that would come out of that was amazing. We would send it to get tested occasionally up to MSU, and I was always amazed at what nature could do with what was otherwise waste
A worm bin would be ideal for apartment living. If you decide to give it another try let me know. You could make a killer seedling mix with Happy Frog and vermicompost!
 

TonightYou

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A worm bin would be ideal for apartment living. If you decide to give it another try let me know. You could make a killer seedling mix with Happy Frog and vermicompost!
I might just have to take you up on that offer. By the way I had ordered from Jims or who ever was mentioned. Good stuff there.
 

mr mustache

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Switched to organic soil? Care to give me some words of encouragement?
Nah. Promix + Dynagro and I've never looked back.

Done ocean forest plus botanicare, then to composting and worm bins, then to ebb and flow tables of rockwool with GH....Then same but with Dyna..... Then DWC with dyna (after 3 "hydro" setups I'm done FOREVER. Big buds... Not up to taste and quality I'm accustomed to)

Finally went promix with myco and dynagro plus beneficials. IMVHO an unbeatable combo.

Almost forgot I also did an all coco run once before. Second best to promix IMO.
 
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