akhiymjames
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I was given some great breeding info about using s2 for mothers. When creating s2 from s1 stock the pheno that's used to create s2 should result into making uniform phenos in most of the beans resulting in making them homogenous. There's a post about this in the GGG thread as we were talking about selfed stock being uniform. I have never seen this but it is obviously practiced by some breeders who make fems seeds but if that is true s2 seeds would make great breeding stock as the mother would be uniform and should breed more true than a s1 pheno
Here is the link to the post:
http://rollitup.org/t/gage-green-group-info-thread.823732/page-292#post-11612525
Here is what the member said:
There are some serious books out there on breeding and goes very deep my friend had one cannot remember the name of it but it's was some hardcore botany to read up on...I'm sure s2 is even more guranteed stable seeing how they do it looked very long and time consuming but the end result worth it. Below is an extract I found explainging things in simple terms, once you start reading up it really can go over your head so you need to be really into it love your botany and love to be a perfectionist.
Otherwise it really fries your brain lol
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The process employs father plants which are selected from long line-bred farmlines or IBL’s (Inbred Lines) that are known to be dominant for a specific trait, I.E light sensitivity, potency, fast flowering etc. These father lines are outcrossed to self pollinated elite cuts selected from stress tested poly-hybrid mothers which have been selected for other qualities such as exotic flavors, smells, or specific plant shapes or structures. As the original mother cuts are not true breeding because of their polyhybrid nature they take them though a 2 time self pollination process(s2) to obtain homogeneity, heavily stress testing a selection before they ever meet the pollen studs. For those who do not understand the “selfing” process it means a female plant is chemically sex reversed allowing it to pollinate itself resulting in s1 seed generation-One common misconception is that this process will result in identical phenos exactly like their mother plant -however in reality recessive traits can still be hiding with variation occurring among sibling seeds so this process must be repeated with the adequate s1 seed to achieve more homogeneous s2 seeds. Stress tested s2’s of excellent mothers are breeding gold as they are homozygous for all traits seen in the s1 individual selection
Here is the link to the post:
http://rollitup.org/t/gage-green-group-info-thread.823732/page-292#post-11612525
Here is what the member said:
There are some serious books out there on breeding and goes very deep my friend had one cannot remember the name of it but it's was some hardcore botany to read up on...I'm sure s2 is even more guranteed stable seeing how they do it looked very long and time consuming but the end result worth it. Below is an extract I found explainging things in simple terms, once you start reading up it really can go over your head so you need to be really into it love your botany and love to be a perfectionist.
Otherwise it really fries your brain lol
<snip>
The process employs father plants which are selected from long line-bred farmlines or IBL’s (Inbred Lines) that are known to be dominant for a specific trait, I.E light sensitivity, potency, fast flowering etc. These father lines are outcrossed to self pollinated elite cuts selected from stress tested poly-hybrid mothers which have been selected for other qualities such as exotic flavors, smells, or specific plant shapes or structures. As the original mother cuts are not true breeding because of their polyhybrid nature they take them though a 2 time self pollination process(s2) to obtain homogeneity, heavily stress testing a selection before they ever meet the pollen studs. For those who do not understand the “selfing” process it means a female plant is chemically sex reversed allowing it to pollinate itself resulting in s1 seed generation-One common misconception is that this process will result in identical phenos exactly like their mother plant -however in reality recessive traits can still be hiding with variation occurring among sibling seeds so this process must be repeated with the adequate s1 seed to achieve more homogeneous s2 seeds. Stress tested s2’s of excellent mothers are breeding gold as they are homozygous for all traits seen in the s1 individual selection
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