blueberry x lowryder#2

plantsinpants

Well-Known Member
i want to breed a male lowryder#2 to a female blueberry, im not interested in the autoflowering trait however the lowryder#2 taste is what im after,,, will breeding bluberry and lowryder#2 consist of an f1 hybrid or is it something else all together??

just a thought
 

Patrick Bateman

Active Member
The first generation produced by selective breeding is always known as the 1st Filial.

The F1 phenotypes will depend largely on the genotypes of the parents,
The only way to produce the taste you are looking for is to do test crossing, which may take you past the F1 generation.

I am no expert but if the F1 does not yield a plant with the taste you are looking for then back crossing the F1 with its
lowryder parent may work. It may take more than one back cross but you get the idea.
 

MEANGREEN69

Well-Known Member
sounds like a kool cross...i crossed a male auto (ak47 X hindukush) >from

LOWLIFE, with a female bagseed..the F1's did have alot of traits from the auto. just

not the auto flowering trait...but that may be because the auto was alot more

stable then the bagseed...i just made some F2's and will be growing them out

soon...nowyou said u dont want the auto trait, so i whouldnt do a backcross to the

auto parent..insted grow out as many of the F1's as you can pick the best male

female and cross..meangreen.
 

plantsinpants

Well-Known Member
what would you guys name these beans?? its a blueberry female and a lowryder#2 male

all i can come up with is "blue#2" ,, lol i know im bored!! :)
 

Jester88

Well-Known Member
i want to breed a male lowryder#2 to a female blueberry, im not interested in the autoflowering trait however the lowryder#2 taste is what im after,,, will breeding bluberry and lowryder#2 consist of an f1 hybrid or is it something else all together??

just a thought
hasnt this been done????? perhaps asking a breeder that deals with them may help though they often seem reluctant to talk lol understandable though in my oppinion.

ummm i don really like lowriders or ruderallis genetics but seems though you have no problem, to answer your question yes you will have a bunch of f1,s in these f1's you could bacross to the father for the traits you want if you get the traits yu want or even possibly cross beetween themselves then use an f2 as your first back cross if thats a path thats needed. youll have to learn punnet squares to predict some shit, and it all depends in whether the traits are dominant or recessive on each plant.. the more you delve into it youll find this could be quite hard.

each time you backcross to the father it will more than likely lean to its characteristics as the genes are leaning more on his side now and i say this could be a bad thing but hey its what your after though you may be able to achieve this by going to the blueberry side too wif you cross the right plants it may be more work if you wanna maintain the flavour but youll get away from so many of the sghitty traits more than likely... at least for a while till they reamerge in an offspring somewhere down the lines perhaps (though you may get lucky afterall i dont work with ruderalis EVER so yeah maybe they wont ho shit genetics if done right mitey mite has good reviews apparently and thats been about for a while lmfao.

anyhoo its late im just drbbling shit trying to get this breeding section off to a bit more of a start lol. its late sorry for the mistakes
 

guitarjon

Well-Known Member
I'm getting ready to cross pollinate 3 of my Auto Ak-47 females with a male Lowryder #2. Hoping it comes out well. I have never pollinated an auto strain with a regular strain so dont know what would come of such a thing. But I have made a few seed runs with Lowryder #2 male and females and it turned out great.
 

d.c. beard

Well-Known Member
I'm getting ready to cross pollinate 3 of my Auto Ak-47 females with a male Lowryder #2. Hoping it comes out well. I have never pollinated an auto strain with a regular strain so dont know what would come of such a thing. But I have made a few seed runs with Lowryder #2 male and females and it turned out great.
Aren't both of those autos though? *Confused*
 

plantsinpants

Well-Known Member
i grew out some ruderalis crosses (F1s) that i made and it seems that the auto trait is ressive..but other traits showed up...

so what i understand here is that you didnt get the autoflowering trait passed down??

good because i would like to only incorporate the taste of the llowryder and not the autoflowerness:dunce:v
 

d.c. beard

Well-Known Member
so what i understand here is that you didnt get the autoflowering trait passed down??

good because i would like to only incorporate the taste of the llowryder and not the autoflowerness:dunce:v
That's strange, cause I've always heard that the Lowrider was a poor-tasting plant with low potency and average yield at best. So I would think that the auto trait would be the only reason to breed with a Lowrider. If you don't want the auto trait there are myriad other strains with better terpene profiles than Lowrider. I thought the Lowrider smelled 'grassy'. : /
 

Jester88

Well-Known Member
so what i understand here is that you didnt get the autoflowering trait passed down??

good because i would like to only incorporate the taste of the llowryder and not the autoflowerness:dunce:v
umm yes the autoflowering will pass on to some of the offspring (sorry not reading the who.e thread again) but from what i remember you were using two strains with ruderalis genetics in them wwerent you.. a lowrider and an autoflowering strain.

your chances in getting a lot of good continuous seed imho is going to be low as i think you are working with shotty genetics to start with.

anyhoo its all about how the traits mix whats dominant and whats recessive. another factor is what both parents will coontribute. you may get a lot of autoflowering and you may get duck all.

all i know is yiour using two poor straijn choices for a breed. a worst case scenario you end up smoking something thast might as well be hemp.

the opposite is also possibl though highly unlikely and will require breedig with test crosses etc if you want to ensure thatthe potency stays.

ruderalis is known as ditch weed and is basically the cannabisthat has been growing wild generally from old hemp farms that have avoided eradication.

they are short plants hense you breed for lowriders and they can also flower by age and not photoperiod hense your autoflowering. generally having low thc count they sometimes sport a decent count this is what the breeders use. aslthough this particular plant was a good one it still comes from the same shitty gene pool as the rest and has all is flaws hidden away under this nice outer coating you purchased from a seedbank. (dont worry a breeders lowriders should still be potent ass there likely the first cross per se and the disadvantages wont show up untill later breeds. bearing in mind if you do shit right and make all the right choices you could stay away from them altogether and keep them hidden and maintain potency etc. but this will require a lot of work.

it is for this reason that breeders preffer not to work with them.

to get an idea of your crosses you have to fgure out what genes are recessive and which are dominant.

i think theres a strong chance in this cross you will start leaning towards the ruderalis genetics :( more than likely from the first cross but then again possibly not. i dont work with ruderalis so all my knowledge here is from the brief experiences ive had and a lot of what ive read. ( a friend of mine crossed a good indica, ruderalis and sativa for his own strain this strain is still going good and potent but imho he was lucky. he has added more indica genetics at certain points and managed to retain the autoflowering trait so yeah he done well = the point im getting at is some good can come of ruderalis crossing/breeding i suppose though i just personally dont like ruderalis genetics one single bit if there genes enter too far into other gene pools it could wreck things for everyone in the future) why dont people start working on other strains without losing thc and potency im sure it could be done over time.

also
have you read up on punnet squares and what not??

if so do some research into plant breeding theres a good link in my sig and theres also one by sic. hes found a part of greg greens book and posted it on here somewhere in the breeding section ;). they will help you figure some of your questions out for yourself.

anyhoo hope that helped
j88

p.s
indicas flower fast and generally fairly short.... just food for thought
 

MEANGREEN69

Well-Known Member
so what i understand here is that you didnt get the autoflowering trait passed down??

good because i would like to only incorporate the taste of the llowryder and not the autoflowerness:dunce:v
well i didnt get any in the F1s.. but im sure i will in the F2s ( seeds in storeage:bigjoint:)...



That's strange, cause I've always heard that the Lowrider was a poor-tasting plant with low potency and average yield at best. So I would think that the auto trait would be the only reason to breed with a Lowrider. If you don't want the auto trait there are myriad other strains with better terpene profiles than Lowrider. I thought the Lowrider smelled 'grassy'. : /

i used LOWLIFES (auto AK47 X hindukush F1s) in my cross, they do lack potency. but they smell really good.....but your right there are many other strains one can use.....i used the auto to try and get a hardy plant... sofar there seems to be some potential in useing them in a cross with a REG strain IMO....
 
Top