mystifiedbongs
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lookin good so far man, u got some tight nodes on those plants
Blue Mystic - CFL Closet Grow Cabinet
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foulplayer
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I was looking at my girls this morning before the lights went off and got all excited when I saw pistils on both girls. Upon further inspection I noticed holes in a couple of leaves on both plants, then I got scared.
Does anyone know what could be causing the holes?
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Also, last night I decided to move my thermometer down to about the top of the pots and now them temp is 81 degrees with lights on and 45% humidity. Previously I had the thermometer above the lights and was reading high 80s and 30% humidity.
Does anyone know the correct placement for a thermometer?
Does anyone know what could be causing the holes?
Lefty
Righty
Also, last night I decided to move my thermometer down to about the top of the pots and now them temp is 81 degrees with lights on and 45% humidity. Previously I had the thermometer above the lights and was reading high 80s and 30% humidity.
Does anyone know the correct placement for a thermometer?
Bird Gymnastics
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They are coming along nicely bro. Those holes in your leaves look like tears. Maybe from pulling on her while taking pictures??I was looking at my girls this morning before the lights went off and got all excited when I saw pistils on both girls. Upon further inspection I noticed holes in a couple of leaves on both plants, then I got scared.
Does anyone know what could be causing the holes?
Lefty
Righty
Also, last night I decided to move my thermometer down to about the top of the pots and now them temp is 81 degrees with lights on and 45% humidity. Previously I had the thermometer above the lights and was reading high 80s and 30% humidity.
Does anyone know the correct placement for a thermometer?
Your thermometer should be even with your plants or even their tops. I would try adding some home made c02 into that cab though. Seems like you have had problems with heat. Hope that helps. I'm sub'd up so any help just ask and I should be checking daily.
foulplayer
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Bird, I thought in order for the CO2 to be effective the cab needed to be sealed, to keep the CO2 from going out the exhaust fan? I think I have my heat problem solved. I am going to make another mod to the cab this week to move the exhaust fan outside of the cab as suggested by Snow Crash, hopefully that will bring my temp down even further. Already have the ducting, I just need to do it, probably tomorrow. The way its setup now I am finally able to run 12 cfls and my temp doesn't go higher than 84.
jhod58vw
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homemade co2 helps like bird said the plants can handle higher temps with it. what i do with mine is turn my exhaust fans off for afew so they can obsorb the co2. check out my grow have videos & my co2 are in there
foulplayer
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Girls are looking healthy, except for when I didn't move the lights high enough, some of the leaf tips got a little crispy over the weekend. Its hard to believe it been almost 40 days since the seeds went into soil. I sure hope the next 6 - 8 weeks go as fast.
April 7 both seeds went into soil.
April 9 right plant sprouted
April 10 left plant sprouted
May 2 Flipped the lights to 12/12
This past Friday my girls got their first dose of 1/4 strength of Tiger Bloom, they seem to have taken to it pretty good. Tonight I plan to give them just plain PHed water, but on the next watering they will be getting 1/2 strength TB. In 7 days, lefty grew 4 inches and righty grew 5 inches. I am seeing more and more pistils showing up.
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Lefty
Righty
April 7 both seeds went into soil.
April 9 right plant sprouted
April 10 left plant sprouted
May 2 Flipped the lights to 12/12
This past Friday my girls got their first dose of 1/4 strength of Tiger Bloom, they seem to have taken to it pretty good. Tonight I plan to give them just plain PHed water, but on the next watering they will be getting 1/2 strength TB. In 7 days, lefty grew 4 inches and righty grew 5 inches. I am seeing more and more pistils showing up.
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Righty
Bird Gymnastics
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They are coming along nicely man. Is TB the only thing she will be getting through out the grow? As far as c02 goes JHOD nailed it on the nose. The cab should be sealed completely but if you do have leaks I would just turn off your exhaust fans. That way the c02 can build up and the plants can absorb it.
foulplayer
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I just bought TB last friday, why you ask? Should I consider something else to use along with the TB? With this being my first grow I was thinking I would take things kind of slow, but if you have any other suggestions regarding nutes, i'm all ears.
Thanks Bird and jhod for your help +rep to both if it will let me. I have a few champagne and beer yeast packets in the fridge (I use to brew my own beer and wine).
Bird Gymnastics
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Beer yeast actually works better for producing c02. I will try to find the thread I read on it as to why but it has to do with the type of yeast it is. Different from the bakers yeast I have been using. Anyways, I was asking about the TB because it actually works wonders with Big Bloom during flowering. The whole Fox Farm line of nutes have been working wonders for me. And I have been using the Fox Farm feeding schedule with a few tweaks here and there. If you need any help just ask. I am checking on you pretty regularly so keep it up.
foulplayer
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Thanks Bird. I will give the CO2 a shot with the beer yeast I have. I will probably use two 20oz bottles placed on each side of my cab.
I found the Fox Farm trio soil feeding schedule online, seems easy enough. I will get Grow Big and Big Bloom this week to go along with the Tiger Bloom I already have. For my next grow I will look into getting Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz and Cha Ching, to use in conjunction with the FF trio.
If anyone is interested in the Fox Farm soil feeding schedule, here is a link to the pdf that you can print out.
http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf
Later tonight after lights come back on I will be putting in the CO2 bottles and mounting the exhaust fan outside the cab. That should definitely help bring the temps down to an acceptable level.
Peace
Bird Gymnastics
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Hope that c02 works like it has for me. Haven't read too much on Open Sesame but Cha Ching and Beastie Bloomz I have seen amazing results. Keep it up man, your plants are looking great.
foulplayer
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Hey guys, last night I put in two 20oz bottles with water, suger and brewing yeast in my cab. One bottle in front of each intake fan with hopes that the co2 will blow on the girls and the exhaust fan pulling the co2 up through the canopy. Also I moved the exhaust blower outside the cab. Temp in the cab this morning was 81 degrees.
Bird Gymnastics
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Looking good man. IMO cfls don't penetrate through the fan leaves too well since they aren't very high in intensity. Because of this I would try and get more side lighting rather then only on top. But with your setup it looks like it would be a perfect candidate for maybe a scrog experiment? Also with your c02 now in there you should try and get some air hoses or put those bottles above your plants. I'll look for the thread but c02 actually weighs more then air, meaning it will fall rather then rise in your cab. Also you should turn your exhaust fan off when letting the c02 build up in the cab. That way she can use the c02 to her full advantage. If you get optimum c02 in your cab, around 1200-1600ppm, she can still flourish in higher temps. Ever since I added my c02 I have an average temp of 81 degrees but that is with my exhaust fan almost off all day. Other then that man you are doing a fantastic job. Your girls are so big and bushy. 
foulplayer
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I thought about going scrog, but I decided to keep things simple. Hell, I wasn't even going to use any nutes at first to keep things simple, but I got the Tiger Bloom, next i'm getting Grow Big and Big Bloom tomorrow. I'll save the scrog for my 2nd grow.Looking good man. IMO cfls don't penetrate through the fan leaves too well since they aren't very high in intensity. Because of this I would try and get more side lighting rather then only on top. But with your setup it looks like it would be a perfect candidate for maybe a scrog experiment? Also with your c02 now in there you should try and get some air hoses or put those bottles above your plants. I'll look for the thread but c02 actually weighs more then air, meaning it will fall rather then rise in your cab. Also you should turn your exhaust fan off when letting the c02 build up in the cab. That way she can use the c02 to her full advantage. If you get optimum c02 in your cab, around 1200-1600ppm, she can still flourish in higher temps. Ever since I added my c02 I have an average temp of 81 degrees but that is with my exhaust fan almost off all day. Other then that man you are doing a fantastic job. Your girls are so big and bushy.
As far as the side lighting goes I already have two light sockets hanging on the left/right sides of the cab. I want to wire them together with my hanging lights, so they use one plug, instead of three. And buy Y-splitters for those, that would raise my cfl count to 16 23w. On the OP I have a picture of the side lights.
Later I will give the bottles a good shake, turn the exhaust fan off and periodically check on the temps. My big concern with turning the exhaust fan off is 90+ degree heat in the cab. This weekend I'll buy some tubing for the bottles as well and run that tubing to the hanging lights so the CO2 will fall on the plants.
Running 16 23w cfls off of one plug isn't going to burn my house down, is it???? Thats part of the reason why wired them in it yet, because I don't know what will happen.
Bird Gymnastics
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Sounds like you have been planning this for awhile. Seems like you have everything under control for the most part. If I were you I'd get a surge protector of some sort just for extra precaution. I am no electrician but that does seem a little dangerous. Keeping it simple is the best thing you can do. If you are already in flower I would save your money and get an additive to big bloom and tiger bloom rather then getting grow big. Its up to you though. As I am not sure as to what your goals are for growing. For myself, I plan on having a perpetual cycle here in about six months. Once my POG and orange crush pop.
foulplayer
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I want to go ahead and get the Grow Big because that'll be one less trip to the hydro store later on. Depending on how expensive they are at the store I will probably go ahead and get Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz and Cha Ching.If you are already in flower I would save your money and get an additive to big bloom and tiger bloom rather then getting grow big. Its up to you though. As I am not sure as to what your goals are for growing. For myself, I plan on having a perpetual cycle here in about six months. Once my POG and orange crush pop.
Pot of Gold and orange crush sound awesome!
I've been lurking in your grow thread, thats how I know what POG means
I've been reading a ton about autoflowers, and have been itching to try them. So for my next grow I plan to grow Bhudda Syrup, Lowryder #2 and Pakistan Ryder, all are autoflowers from herbiespicknmix. I will stagger them, plant a new one every couple of weeks, and I don't have to build a seperate cab for veg/flowering.
foulplayer
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To help my heat problem I bought a 180cfm blower to exhaust all the hot air, and got my temps down to the low 80s with 12 cfls on.
Last night I turned off the exhaust fan to let CO2 buildup in the cab, it was 81 degrees. I checked it 2 hours later and the temp only went up one degree with the exhaust fan off. I dont understand why my temps were so high before.
foulplayer
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Over the weekend I added tubing to the co2 bottles. And the girls got their first full dose of nutes, 2 tsp of Tiger Bloom and 1 Tbl of Big Bloom. I almost screwed up though. I meant to water them on friday but forgot, oops. When I checked them Saturday evening, they looked pretty sick. After a good watering with nutes, they sprang back to life and look healthier than ever.
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foulplayer
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Girls are looking healthy, buds are starting to swell up and getting frosty. I think the girls have stopped growing, haven't had to move the lights in over a week. I hope it stays that way, I only have 2" at most to move the lights. Below is some bud pr0n. Enjoy.
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mystifiedbongs
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looking great man, im a little worried about your top nugs and those lights tho... it'd be a shame to loose them