Cx2H
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I should of added it is a combo of ca and transpiration. From a calcium stress period of a fast growing plant.
Bloombastic question
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cannn
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Could you check out the thread in the link in my sig? The newest posts i put up. Shows my sharksbreath i think is mutated but it grows much thicker stems so maybe its just using up its ca quick. I put up pics of what i assumed to be an odd mutation in case anyone had such comments
Mainly those last 4 pics
Davebodia
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The drooping just started yesterday and it's def because of over-watering. I leave it out when I go to work, a couple times the rain has come up quick and completely douched my plants lol. I don't really have many options for when I go to work but I know they need sun so I leave em' out when it looks like the weather will hold.
And I see your mutants. Do you just let em' grow and see how they turn out?
Here's a few better pics of all three of mine.
And I'm happy now too. Just picked up my Blackberry Kush, Auto Mako, and Night Queen from the Post. Will be gettin' a few of those started on Saturday. I do have Jiffy Plugs as well and they're pretty straight forward but if anyone has suggestions on those, I'd be happy to hear about that as well as results from using them.
And I see your mutants. Do you just let em' grow and see how they turn out?
Here's a few better pics of all three of mine.
And I'm happy now too. Just picked up my Blackberry Kush, Auto Mako, and Night Queen from the Post. Will be gettin' a few of those started on Saturday. I do have Jiffy Plugs as well and they're pretty straight forward but if anyone has suggestions on those, I'd be happy to hear about that as well as results from using them.
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cannn
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You should continue to be careful about overwatering but ironically your plants dont look like theyre taking it too bad. Like i said before, if you can get perlite or something similar, scoop those plants roots out of there, and ammend the soil with about 25% of it that will help immensely. And again if you have small pots theyd dry out faster
This is my first mutant that grew out normally. Last one i had was almost like the 3 leaf mutation except the third one looked wrong and it died shortly after sprouting. I would let it grow and see what happens. This mutated sharksbreath seems to be my best plant
As for rooting plugs, i only use them for cloning. Seeds do just fine planted in soil and not bothered. I dont understand why some ppl feel the need to use stuff like that and claim better germination rates. I get almost 100% germination all the time, you just dont want to disturb the seed and soil and check if its coming up, no matter how impatient you get.
This is my first mutant that grew out normally. Last one i had was almost like the 3 leaf mutation except the third one looked wrong and it died shortly after sprouting. I would let it grow and see what happens. This mutated sharksbreath seems to be my best plant
As for rooting plugs, i only use them for cloning. Seeds do just fine planted in soil and not bothered. I dont understand why some ppl feel the need to use stuff like that and claim better germination rates. I get almost 100% germination all the time, you just dont want to disturb the seed and soil and check if its coming up, no matter how impatient you get.
Cx2H
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Link?
cannn
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/first-mainline-4-strains.944156/page-3#post-13667939
It shouldve been there but it doesnt show when im on my phone so maybe thats it
Davebodia
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One month update. The one Kush looks great, one looks very good, and even the little NYC Diesel is starting to come along a little. Appears that the Kushes will be flowering soon, will begin the Bloom in the near future. The bottom leaves on the smaller Kush were turning yellow last week so I added some fertilizer, they appear to have made the yellow mostly go away.
As to the dirt mixture, it's a lot more porous than it looks. Because they'd been getting too much water (rain mostly), they developed a slight mold on the surface. I scraped it off (carefully), and when I did, I realized the dirt merely appears to look like set concrete lol. Even still, I'll be using coconut husks or the like on the next batch (would sugar cane husk work like coconut?). That said...
Today I'll be planting a Blueberry Kush, Night Queen, and Mako... all autos of course. And as I do have the Jiffy Plugs, I'll be germinating with them (I'll also be using slightly smaller pots this round). And cannn, I know you aren't a fan of Jiffy Plugs, but I'd still like some pointers. As in, do they need to be set in a small dark pot (just big enough for the plugs), so the sides of the plug don't get light, or should they be free standing with the sides open to light? I did the latter last time but I don't know if they're would even be a difference.
Edit: YouTube just answered my Jiffy Plug question.
As to the dirt mixture, it's a lot more porous than it looks. Because they'd been getting too much water (rain mostly), they developed a slight mold on the surface. I scraped it off (carefully), and when I did, I realized the dirt merely appears to look like set concrete lol. Even still, I'll be using coconut husks or the like on the next batch (would sugar cane husk work like coconut?). That said...
Today I'll be planting a Blueberry Kush, Night Queen, and Mako... all autos of course. And as I do have the Jiffy Plugs, I'll be germinating with them (I'll also be using slightly smaller pots this round). And cannn, I know you aren't a fan of Jiffy Plugs, but I'd still like some pointers. As in, do they need to be set in a small dark pot (just big enough for the plugs), so the sides of the plug don't get light, or should they be free standing with the sides open to light? I did the latter last time but I don't know if they're would even be a difference.
Edit: YouTube just answered my Jiffy Plug question.
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Cx2H
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They look great to me. Good work.
cannn
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Dont trust everything you see on youtube. You can do it either way but its better and easier imo to put them in soil. The plug alone will dry out faster and when the roots hit the outside of the plug theyll want nutes and get them immediately. Reallly though no reason for it. Natures got it down. Rooting plugs really only make sense to me for cloning. You just want a lighter soil nutrient wise for seeds.
Davebodia
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So I've already gotten my soil mixture and coconut husks ready for the transplant in a couple weeks. Doing like this also helps me out because I don't have be worry about them being decimated by a sudden heavy downpour; they're in a covered container for now. We'll see, it's an experiment right? lol
Davebodia
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Day 42 update (those are from yesterday, so I'm actually on day 43).
It appears that the little deformed one is coming along quite well, and the big one is lookin' like a beauty. It looks like I'll be getting the Bloombastic going soon... in much smaller amounts than suggested of course. What do you think?
It appears that the little deformed one is coming along quite well, and the big one is lookin' like a beauty. It looks like I'll be getting the Bloombastic going soon... in much smaller amounts than suggested of course. What do you think?
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cannn
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They look great!! I dont use nutes until my plants show a problem or theyre already laying on bud. Even after they start flowering for a few weeks theyre in a stretch phase where they mostly grow upward and still need plenty of n so in my experience its better to feed veg feed even a bit into flower if they dont ask for phosphorous or potassium but ive heard from whitebb2727 that feeding bloom feed to autos early will trigger them to flower earlier so i guess it depends how big you want them to get. That guy knows a good bit about autos from what ive seen.
Davebodia
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Argghhh Help!! 10pm last night plants looked great, 11am this morning... this. It didn't rain or anything and it's only the 2 Criticals, not the little Diesel. I've treated them all exactly the same. I've only given them fertilizer twice and small amounts at that (I don't have access to anything but vegetable fert). I put some Guano on the dirt today and watered (after I saw, not before). I've never had bad results with a plant- only grown 3 times, so I don't know what to do.
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cannn
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It doesnt look like any deficiency i know. The best thing is not to freak out and do stuff like you did, adding guano when you have no idea what the problem is. Many growers start with one issue and only escalate it by over reacting
These are some charts i like to look at when i have an issue.
Did you fertilize since the last pics you posted friday? Bloombastic is very strong so you wanna go super light if you use it at all unless you see an issue. I believe its 0-20-20 npk right?
These are some charts i like to look at when i have an issue.
Did you fertilize since the last pics you posted friday? Bloombastic is very strong so you wanna go super light if you use it at all unless you see an issue. I believe its 0-20-20 npk right?
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Davebodia
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Thanks for the charts. As to the guano, it was time to add that anyway. With my last plant I added it about every 3 weeks. As to the Bloom, haven't used it yet. I did add a very small bit of fert 2 days prior but it may have been too concentrated. The burn is only on maybe 4 leaves (and not on the Diesel at all). I showed the pics to a friend of mine and he said it would be a good idea to flush it out a bit so I did that last night. As of today, nothing has changed, ie it's not gotten any worse.
Looking at your chart it would appear the plant may have an iron or manganese deficiency. But as it's not changed I'll have to wait a bit longer to know for sure.
Thanks again.
Looking at your chart it would appear the plant may have an iron or manganese deficiency. But as it's not changed I'll have to wait a bit longer to know for sure.
Thanks again.
cannn
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No problem. If it progresses you should make a thread for it in marijuana plant problems. Always better to get a few more growers to take a look and it seems this threads mainly just us at this point.
haywired
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Do yourself a very big favor - go with another product/manufacturer because , from first hand experience theyve most obviously have watered down / cut bloombastic maybe 6 months or so ago. And at the outrageous price they demand you'd think they'd improve the formula but no they've chosen the 'take all you can grab ' method