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coppershot

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Apology accepted
I get that you feel like @quiescent jumped the gun, but I haven't seen him come on here and troll people. He was just offering some genuine advice, and offer solutions for the dog hair that you may not be aware of.

I had two cats, so I get the hair issue, and it has to be one of the most frustrating things to see when you take a pic. I felt like the hair is all I could see on my plant pics lol.

Anyway, don't get worked up, we are all here trying to grow the best we can given our circumstances, and any thoughts about things that we can consider to enhance our rooms is positive conversation!
 

bunnybunny

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No problem with the dog hair comment, or that humidity and temperature could be dialed in a little bit better, as that's true. But his analysis of which deficiencies the plants have, and saying I have nitrogen toxicity is just flat out wrong. I have no problem with constructive criticism that has merit, as that's why we are all here anyways.

To say I have nitrogen deficiency would be far more accurate.
 

jdoeanon

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Strawberry Guava S1 at week 5, looking pretty good and hasn't started to bulk or frost up yet.



San Sour Soci 7/10 and 8/10





Grape Cream Cake 8.5 keeper and 7.5/10, didn't take a picture of lesser quality one fresh. These plants all have pictures taken at day 56 of flower. Will get pictures of dried and cured flower in a few weeks.





I know the hair is out of control. I have two huskies.
What's that Strawberry Guava smelling like? Got one to run myself, the mother I seen had huge Jurassic park looking fan leaves
 

quiescent

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No problem with the dog hair comment, or that humidity and temperature could be dialed in a little bit better, as that's true. But his analysis of which deficiencies the plants have, and saying I have nitrogen toxicity is just flat out wrong. I have no problem with constructive criticism that has merit, as that's why we are all here anyways.

To say I have nitrogen deficiency would be far more accurate.
Your plants look like they were hit with too much nitrogen at some point, there is the possibility that they weren't - won't deny that. Over watering and hitting them with too much PK will lead to a similar leaf droop/burn which might be why you think it isn't. You definitely hit them with too much phosphorous and potassium and your micros were for sure lacking. The PK being too much high isn't as big of a deal as over-nitrification and under-mineralization on flower quality IME which is why I mentioned it. I've smoked a lot of stuff that had N tox early on and you can't recover from it.

You might have been giving them too little nitrogen at the end but in the stretch you maybe loved them a bit too much - the symptoms aren't always immediate, especially in a medium that's not being hydrated properly with a salt build up. If you were to be more aggressive with your defoliation they would have needed what you were feeding but they already had mobile nutrients in the fans.

Another reason I think there's too much nitrogen early on is because I've grown sour dubb s1s and the Black Garlic from Oni, which is in that strain. The most Dubb leaning plants are very leafy but aren't THAT nutrient hungry - they really want the micros. I've had a guy's dubb that they were proud they kept it green through harvest because they cal-magged it to hell. With that cal-mag came a lot of extra nitrogen. His flower didn't smell or taste like the previous batch, it was way worse but the plants and flowers looked better. I'd assume that Chem D that's 2-0-0 cal-magged to death would look better but smoke worse as well.

I understand if you don't think what I'm saying is accurate, my word isn't absolute. I've been there (where you are, with flowers that were definitely worse) and done that (over feeding, chasing micro defs, not watering the containers properly - waiting until they're too dry in early/mid flower - all at once on top of hydrophobic soil till its flowing out of the bottom, etc) but I've also been there and not done that. Just trying to help you grow more, better flowers at a lower cost.

Also, have a long haired cat. I built boxes for my two passive intakes that take regular furnace filters. I'm fortunate that I can keep her out of the room but I still have to sweep regularly to keep up with it. If you can hit the outside of the door with a lint roller before opening you should be able to keep most hair out. You should already be showered in fresh clothing before messing with the garden to prevent pests/pollen contam.
 
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Mr.Estrain

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Blows me away people's ocd with pet hair. Always gives me a good laugh. I see the odd one but nothing that warrants keeping my pal out. He loves chilling in the warmth.

My grape cream cake is on its second run, great structure with strong branch characteristics. Grape sweet smells and filling out nicely. Much nicer looking then a WCf3 I'm testing out that I made. Yield looks nicer and has much better branch characteristics. First run wasn't so hot as my buddy was helping out while I was in the hospital. Excited to see how it turns out with dinner proper tlc.
 

MInewgrow

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Hopefully this pack of full melt I found will still be there in a few days. If that’s gone maybe I’ll shoot for the strawberry forza.
 

Zipz55

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anybody know what the parents of Forza Sour are?


edit: I found some info saying its SBSE x Wedding Cake

does anybody know what SBSE is?
 
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AaronHernadez

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from a blurb by wyeast on Speakeasy under the sour secret description

“FORZA SOUR SEED DETAILS
Forza Our is a cross I made in collaboration with Seed Junky a couple years ago–then hunted myself inhouse–seeds were never released of this. Forza Sour is M1og aka Sour Best Shit Ever x the Wedding Cake stud male. My breeding cut brings intense sour / og forward–but with a much more ‘modern’ look to the buds.”
 

uJhiteLiger

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anybody know what the parents of Forza Sour are?


edit: I found some info saying its SBSE x Wedding Cake

does anybody know what SBSE is?
Like someone said it's Sour Best Shit Ever but I've seen W'yeast list it as M1OG. SBSE is probably the same as M1OG
 

uJhiteLiger

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The guava pie is a 10 for bag appeal and terps, but the high is like a 6 or a 7. Pretty much on par or a little better than cookies. I’m sure some of the other strawberry guava crosses like the ogkb2.1 or the kushmints would pack more of a punch though. Got some (forza sour xi95)x strawberry guava for freebies with a pack of strawberry cooler I’m pretty stoked to run.
I agree with this 100%. My grow was absolutely gorgeous and I'll probably run the rest of my seeds again to find a nice keeper, but the potency was lacking a bit if you're a hardcore smoker. I don't mind that though, sometimes I just want bud that looks and smells great without getting out of my mind high, that's what Chem D is for :lol: Where'd you buy your packs by the way? I bought mine from Rockymountainhigh719 but no freebies. I'm down to my last two nugs of Guava Pie and it's sad, but there's always new flavors to try
 

cannapotimus

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I agree with this 100%. My grow was absolutely gorgeous and I'll probably run the rest of my seeds again to find a nice keeper, but the potency was lacking a bit if you're a hardcore smoker. I don't mind that though, sometimes I just want bud that looks and smells great without getting out of my mind high, that's what Chem D is for :lol: Where'd you buy your packs by the way? I bought mine from Rockymountainhigh719 but no freebies. I'm down to my last two nugs of Guava Pie and it's sad, but there's always new flavors to try
I got mine from rocky’s Canadian partner, so no freebies with mine either. I’ve only got freebies from them once and it was only two seeds and I think it might be because it was a little late to ship. Solid guys though either way. I have 2 guava coolers that are 4 weeks into flower at the moment. The shorter of the two has an amazing sour Kush smell since it first started to show flowers.
 

uJhiteLiger

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I got mine from rocky’s Canadian partner, so no freebies with mine either. I’ve only got freebies from them once and it was only two seeds and I think it might be because it was a little late to ship. Solid guys though either way. I have 2 guava coolers that are 4 weeks into flower at the moment. The shorter of the two has an amazing sour Kush smell since it first started to show flowers.
Actually now that I think about it they did give me a freebie, but it was a pack from Nerds Genetics called Tinkerdick Quall (they're running out of names) and its basically a GMO Bx (GMO x (GMO x MAC)). I have a pack of that Guava Cooler as well! Sounds amazing so far it seems. What are you hoping to get out of those Guava Coolers? I'm looking for a Minty Guava type
 

cannapotimus

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The two space guavaz I grew out turned out amazing too. The runtz dominant has a really nice sweet candied lemon taste and smell with bag appeal for days, but the high is a little lacking. Basically on par with a cookies cross. The guavaz pheno doesn’t look as nice but yielded better, has an amazing tangy melon guava/papaya smell/taste and has a nicer high.
 

uJhiteLiger

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The two space guavaz I grew out turned out amazing too. The runtz dominant has a really nice sweet candied lemon taste and smell with bag appeal for days, but the high is a little lacking. Basically on par with a cookies cross. The guavaz pheno doesn’t look as nice but yielded better, has an amazing tangy melon guava/papaya smell/taste and has a nicer high.
Man, I'm seeing a pattern of all these pretty strains lacking in potency. Kinda sad to see considering how amazing they smell and taste (i would assume.) I'm okay with the lack of potency though, I have other strains if I want to be out of my mind high
 
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