Bloom boosters: BS or Necessity?

Moabfighter said:

Little update to the do you use bloom boosters or not.

I use botanicare cns17 and add “jacks classic blossom booster” and “flower fuel” at different spots. The jacks is a staple for me I love the vitamin zing it gives my buds. I also just fed a small dose of fox farms cha Ching to increase resin production. I’m happy with the results 3 weeks into flower.
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Edit I also use fox farms big bloom at certain spots. Every other feed lately it seems. Plants are roughly 4-5ft tall and about 2-4ft around in diameter.

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looking good however you could back off the N a little bit as the leaves are looking rather waxy. This is classic sign of too much N.

if you’re using a Calmag product it could be you haven’t realised that it also carries N possibly in the form of calcium Nitrate.

If I use a Calmag that’s got a lot of N in it I usually back off my base nutes a little bit.

It wouldn’t harm you to keep going as you are though as you back off N later on down the weeks (but imo too much lol)

Nice looking grow.

jondamon said:

looking good however you could back off the N a little bit as the leaves are looking rather waxy. This is classic sign of too much N.

if you’re using a Calmag product it could be you haven’t realised that it also carries N possibly in the form of calcium Nitrate.

If I use a Calmag that’s got a lot of N in it I usually back off my base nutes a little bit.

It wouldn’t harm you to keep going as you are though as you back off N later on down the weeks (but imo too much lol)

Nice looking grow.

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TBH I’ve been heavier on this new botanicare product more than what I used to use primarily being the jacks classic. It’s very low n, theN a little p little K. It was my primary before I got this nutrient with the cal mag in. I like it a lot but I agree the dark green isn’t some thing I’m overly used to seeing I guess because the jacks has little n in it and it was my staple before this new product. Maybe I need to up the jacks lower then botanicare thank you for the input

@Moabfighter
When you say jacks classic, you don't mean jacks hydroponic 5-12-26, do you?

If you want, check out an online nutrient profile calculator (to get a picture of that actual ppm of the elements that you are feeding) and enter the values of the inputs. Get an idea of the nutrient profile you're actually feeding the plants, and maybe compare to some other people's - and any suggested one's you can maybe find online, that suit your medium/method.

You can search this forum for user "Renfro"'s excell spreadsheet nutrient calculator, which has excellent information too, and download that if you want.

If you do, share what your profile is, I'd be curious.


And check out tad hussey's yt channel, episode 43 (which someone posted here(?) earlier). Or the second one with Travis Higginbotham. And/or the first one with Jeff Lowenfels (I think).

People are losing their shit and jumping to whatever conclusion they wanted to arrive at by cherrypicking a sentence or two, or one aspect of these new(er) "studies", and then going around calling anyone who practices any methods similar to the ones being investigated ('flushing/leaching, or curing', etc.) idiots/stupid etc., for doing it... Instead of maybe just approaching people and offering up the new "information" they've come across.
Some of these people will act like they've "known this all along", and you're stupid, even though they've probably been practicing these very methods up til now.

Peace.

This argument has been going on since I started growing a long time ago.

I don't see any reason to get mad at each other over it.

Why would I care if you don't wanna flush and why would you care if I did. If you grow quality then keep doing what your doing.

There is no one right way to grow this plant.

As far as the study goes it was 48 plants, I still need to read the whole thing, I've been busy trimming and moving new plants to flower room so won't have time for a bit. But that being said I've grown a considerable amount more than 48 plants with and without flushing over the years. I also think a lot of the testing done was done on concentrates which if I was growing solely for concentrates not smokeable flower I wouldn't see the point in flushing either. The best test to try and prove my point that smokable buds are smoother would be a blind study with the same plants grown in the same room at the same time to remove as many variables as possible and then have a large group of smokers rate the bud without telling them which is which. Otherwise how you can disprove smoother smoke with a test as that's what most claim that still flush.

No I don't think I'm taking anything out of the plant that has already went into it. I think I'm letting the plant use what it's already taken in and not adding any more. I also think that there is something else going on that I can't fully explain, could be plant esthers or chlorophyll breaking down sooner.

Like I said before though if I'm wrong and its all in my head at least I'm saving money on nutes and I've never seen any difference in yield one way or the other.

RonnieB2 said:

My personal experience with boosters has been mixed. When using fertilizer that has lowe potassium and phosphorus i saw bigger yields with a booster. Now that I have switched to Jacks Hydroponic 321 fertilizer, I cant tell a bit of difference. The 321 fertilizer has a lot higher PK than what I was using. Im absolutely in love with this stuff. Its extremely high NPK values but totally worth it, IMHO. The fertilizer is 5-12-26 and 15-0-0. This stuff rocks. As long as you follow the mix instructions to the letter, it will not harm your plants. i even tested it on a seedling and it responded very well to a dose every 10 days. Low salt build up too

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Have you personally ever used it in soil?