Bleach instead of H2o2

choempi

choempi

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FirstGrowOHNO

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Best and most useful thread ever guys + rep u all +) I've been using hygro in my setup, and after reading these posts i was horrified, started adding bleach to kill off all the bacteria i caused in my rez with fuckin hygrozyme that i spent a fortune on..uggh!@
 
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trunkneck

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fatman7574 said:
Do you think the majority of commercial hydroponic green house growers are wrong. They use chlorine at 4 ppm or higher added into the pipesfeeding the irrigation spray heads so as to m not waster chlorine in the reservoirs through dissipation. I recommend 2.5 ppm as an initail treatment reduced to 0.5 ppm as a residual level of chlorine. Tap water is allowed to contain up to 4 ppm at customers faucets. Thousands of growers of mj use tap water without any removal of chlorine. 10's of thousands of people water their houseplants, flowers and lawns with water containiing up to 4 ppm of chlorine. Plants can tolerate extremely high anounts of chlorine. they ac not tolerate chloride. Fish can tolerate high levels of chloride but not chlorine. Salt is sodium chloride. Plants can not tolerate high levels of chloride Caphese.

Hydrogen peroxide is a much stronger oxidizer than chlorine. It is much easier to cause problems using hydrogen peroxide than to use chlorox bleach.

Too many myths in forums and on the web. Have you heard of Pythoff. It is sold in two versions. Professional/commercial made with chloroamine or hobby grade made with chlorine.

http://www.flairform.com/Products/pythoff.htm http://www.urbangardenershop.com.au/product/457/default.asp
the MSDS for hobby grade:
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGklFzIeFLdm0AkIxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEybGVibTBpBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA0g0NjVfNzk-/SIG=12mrpieok/EXP=1273131763/**http://www.flairform.com/downloads/msds_pythoff_hobby_strength.pdf

When your wrong your wrong. This time your very wrong. Consider your self corrected.
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Yes, commercial grows, but this is a hobby user. I don't see anyone corrected, this is as much an art as a science. Try not to be so rigid. :)
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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choempi said:
ha :mrgreen:
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whats up man thanks for checking out my grow and for the rep i would throw you some to but dont know how this is some good info on here went out today and got some wal mart brand non scented bleach want to try this but im using tap water at about 150 to 160 ppm out the tap and my nutes are flora nova bloom and hg bud xl additive is any of this a problem or just the 6-8 drops per gallon thanks and if you tell me how to give rep i will give you some lol.
 
choempi

choempi

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drgreentm said:
whats up man thanks for checking out my grow and for the rep i would throw you some to but dont know how this is some good info on here went out today and got some wal mart brand non scented bleach want to try this but im using tap water at about 150 to 160 ppm out the tap and my nutes are flora nova bloom and hg bud xl additive is any of this a problem or just the 6-8 drops per gallon thanks and if you tell me how to give rep i will give you some lol.
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The star beneath a peeps post is for giving rep, and as long as your nutes are not organic bleach is good to go

And when you rep always leave your screen name so peeps know who repd them
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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choempi said:
The star beneath a peeps post is for giving rep, and as long as your nutes are not organic bleach is good to go

And when you rep always leave your screen name so peeps know who repd them
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cool man thanks o believe the flora nova is not organic will check on line real quick about to do my res changes tonight so i am going for it so the tap water doesnt make a diff i thought tap water was already treated with some cl
 
choempi

choempi

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drgreentm said:
cool man thanks o believe the flora nova is not organic will check on line real quick about to do my res changes tonight so i am going for it so the tap water doesnt make a diff i thought tap water was already treated with some cl
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If you are worried then only use 4 drops, though the amounts we are talking even with the tap is very small
bleach disipates after about 24 hours, so what I do is every 2 or 3 days add back to the amount of gals in your res, you could even go 4 or 5 days cause the bleach wipes shit out completely and takes a fair while for any bad shit to get back in your h20. It is so easy and so cheap and totally effective.
Your tap ppm is very good also
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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drgreentm said:
it says flora nova is a mix of organic and chemical what you think
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The chlorine will kill the bacteria needed to break down the organic molecules into N-P-K for the plant to use. So by using chlorine you are neutralizing both the chlorine and the bacteria...

Best thing to do is get the resevoir temps below 70 degrees if at all possible.
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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thanks for being honest i am going to give it a go in one res with 4 drops per gallon if i see any harm to the plants i will flush and stop using i will let you know so people in the future can use the info as well thanks again.
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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NLXSK1 said:
The chlorine will kill the bacteria needed to break down the organic molecules into N-P-K for the plant to use. So by using chlorine you are neutralizing both the chlorine and the bacteria...

Best thing to do is get the resevoir temps below 70 degrees if at all possible.
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pretty sure they are below 70 now not quite sure but i got a spare water thermometer will throw it in to be positive.
 
choempi

choempi

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drgreentm said:
thanks for being honest i am going to give it a go in one res with 4 drops per gallon if i see any harm to the plants i will flush and stop using i will let you know so people in the future can use the info as well thanks again.
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honest answers is what the whole idea is about, it's no shame to not know something, but talking out your ass may cost someone a grow
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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choempi said:
honest answers is what the whole idea is about, it's no shame to not know something, but talking out your ass may cost someone a grow
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absolutely worst comes to worst it will just not break down the organic parts right?? on the bottle it says it has .01% CL already in it so im curious.
 
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the raider

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Hypochlorous Acid is The same thing as Bleach. Hypochlorous Acid is in Bob's Brew and Clonex Cleaning Solution. Both at the same rates.Check out any label of Bob's Brew and I'm sure you can find what your looking for
 
choempi

choempi

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the raider said:
Hypochlorous Acid is The same thing as Bleach. Hypochlorous Acid is in Bob's Brew and Clonex Cleaning Solution. Both at the same rates.Check out any label of Bob's Brew and I'm sure you can find what your looking for
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Bleach is a bit cheaper
 
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Highhopes99

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How is the bleach working out? I'm using a flood and drain system in rockwool pots (al b fuct style) and had my roots turn brown the other day. Is bleach going to help me 6-8 drops per gallon.
 
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