Bleach instead of H2o2

Excellent post Fatman. Again thanks for all the contributions you have made to this forum. Rep for sure.

Edit I just tried and It won't let me!! Gotta spread it around it says.

Anyone else care to Rep this man?

corrected i stand, so i started getting a little algae growth in my res and i decided to give it a try, i dosed 5ml to a 25g res, im sure its not enough for root rot but with everything being discussed in ppm i wasn't sure and did not want to over do it, i think that should be enough to kill algae any ways....

Dwight how are the plants reacting to it. Iam hoping ok being that fatman recommends only 1ml per 10 gallons.

Peace and good vibes

6 to 8 drops per gal.

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Thanks guys for the info!
Im running a chemical grow in an ebb and flow. I keep my water at 60 degrees and have been using Dutchmaster Zone and 1ml/g of h202. After 4 days my res starts to smell like pond water. My roots are white but notice a white slick residue on some of the plastic parts in the controller bucket.
I will try the bleach @ 6 drops per gallon from now on.
I know the Zone is chloramine... should I ditch it all together and just run bleach or use it in conjunction? How often should I add the bleach, does it evaporate or dissipate like h202?

Never mind fellas, I read through the posts again and saw Fatman posting a dissipation of 2ppm over a 24 hour period. I did just that to my res, 2 tsp for 50 gallons for a total of 2 ppm. The reservoir smells a lot better and the plants are perky! So I am thinking 2.5 ml a day to keep a .5 ppm constant of bleach.
Fuck h202. I hate that shit.

I would use the bleach to clean out your buckets and stuff when your done growing in it but would not use it one any living plant

johndoecangrow said:

I would use the bleach to clean out your buckets and stuff when your done growing in it but would not use it one any living plant

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Why? Should we regard all the above posts as wrong? State your case Yoda.

John,
Look at your local water quality report. You are usually drinking 1-2 ppm of of chlorine at a time depending where you live (sometimes more). It is the same dose we are giving the plants. Actually slightly less @.5 ppm constant. If it is okay enough for us and your household garden, it is okay for cannabis as well. This only pertains to using chemical ferts.
Also, if commercial greenhouses are using it @ a rate of 8 times the normal dose recommended for our indoor gardens, then I am sure its okay. I have been running bleach for two days now and can see a much cleaner reservoir then h202 ever provided.

the only reason to de-chlorinate water as far as Im concerned is if you are running organic ferts or have an abnormally high concentration of chlorine to begin with.

Fatman chooses to share information with the community, not because he has to, but because he want's to. He has been solid so far!

2 weeks ago I would have thought the same thing as you, but it just goes to show you how much more there is to learn!

Nice post. I would run Chlorine but I'm using additives like Greenfuse and I think I would be defeating the purpose there. Hygrozyme seems to avoid me getting the alge more so then h2o2 ever did, so I guess I'm stuck with it unless I go purely synthetic nutes/additives.

Someguy15 said:

Nice post. I would run Chlorine but I'm using additives like Greenfuse and I think I would be defeating the purpose there. Hygrozyme seems to avoid me getting the alge more so then h2o2 ever did, so I guess I'm stuck with it unless I go purely synthetic nutes/additives.

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I hear that!

I have $400 worth of Hydro organic ferts (Botanicares Pro complete line) and a gallon of hygrozyme. Such a waste.

I agree organic nutes have no place in a hydro op period.

Hope know one takes offence, just my personal opinion.

Peace and good vibes

not tryin to jack the thread but i'm confused. how can i be sure if and when i can run bleach? i've been running clorox 2drops / gallon for the last 2 weeks and using carbo load witch claims to be made

of 100 organic carbohydrates. I was also planing on running "overdrive" witch contains "vitamins and organic materials". is the bleach destroying the organic carbs, vitamins, amino acids and organic

material? if so should i just run a ph balanced bleach solution as a flush in between the weekly water change?? or should i be looking into more synthetic nutrients?

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Rather than telling us to add 2 or 4 PPM to our reservoirs, would any of you know how much bleach would be needed per gallon in order to raise it roughly 2-4 PPM? As in ____ML, rather than just suggesting we add a "few drops". I have a large reservoir and I don't want to sit there counting hundreds of drops. lol

Also, how often do we add it? Just one time or do we need a maintenance dose?

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When you guys say "bleach" you guys are talking about the stuff we do laundry with correct? Its not some commerical growing bleach or a special bleach I need to buy. I can use the same bleach from my laundry room?

krisko said:

When you guys say "bleach" you guys are talking about the stuff we do laundry with correct? Its not some commerical growing bleach or a special bleach I need to buy. I can use the same bleach from my laundry room?

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Yes, but make sure your laundry bleach does not have any scents, special disinfectants, etc... Just go buy a gallon of cheap generic laundry bleach and use that.

It is my understanding that 1 drop = 1 ppm in 1 gallon. Usually it is 2 drops per gallon to start and then 1/2 drop per gallon maintenance although this differs completely depending on if your resevoir is aerated or not and how much surface movement, etc..

Alright someone was saying 7-8 drops per gallon in a few pages back in this thread. 7-8 drops is a big jump from 1-2 drops. Cany anyone confirm the correct number?

Look at the % of the sodium hypochlorite of your bleach. Calculate your dose so it meets label below. If you find bleach at 7.5%, it should make figuring your application rate a little easier. If you look it's on riu somewhere, you probably need to look through a fatman thread to find it. http://www.flairform.com/downloads/pythoff_commercial_label.htm

1 use 1 tsp per gal per day to kill brown algae. 1/4 tsp per day for pm measures.