Bleach instead of H2o2

Carolina Dream'n

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Any recommendations on using pool shock?
Why? I have both but just found adding the 5% liquid was easier than mixing my powdered shock. Is the shock better? What's the difference
1. It's calcium based. Giving your plants atleast some form of nutrients they can use too.
2. Breaks down much slower than bleach.
3. Cheap as shit.

Take one gram of pool shock, put it into a gallon of water. This is the exact same thing as ClearRez at this time. Concentrated to around 250 ppms. Now take 20 ml of that solution per gallon of water you want to treat. repeat once a week. Done. Sterile no worries.
 

budafinger

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1. It's calcium based. Giving your plants atleast some form of nutrients they can use too.
2. Breaks down much slower than bleach.
3. Cheap as shit.

Take one gram of pool shock, put it into a gallon of water. This is the exact same thing as ClearRez at this time. Concentrated to around 250 ppms. Now take 20 ml of that solution per gallon of water you want to treat. repeat once a week. Done. Sterile no worries.
20 ml per gallon? Seems quite a lot, anyone else used as much as this with good results? My res is a total of 12 gallon which would mean putting 240ml per week? Surely at that strength it'd be toxic to plants?
 

Carolina Dream'n

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My bleach is Calcium hypochlorite, at least that's what the bottle say's. So it seems it's the same as pool shock :o.
The powder is 52-71% depending on brand. And is like $13 for a kilo. So for 13 bucks you can treat 198,000 gallons of water. (3960/20=198, 1 gram per gallon, 1000 gram package. 198x1000=198000)
 

Carolina Dream'n

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20 ml per gallon? Seems quite a lot, anyone else used as much as this with good results? My res is a total of 12 gallon which would mean putting 240ml per week? Surely at that strength it'd be toxic to plants?
1 gram per gallon give you roughly 250 ppms. (Starting water RO) you then use that as a concentrate as 20 ml per gallon. That 20 mls is roughly 0.5% of that gallon. So then you take the 250ppm concentrate and multiply it by .005 giving 1.25 ppms.
 
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Budley Doright

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The powder is 52-71% depending on brand. And is like $13 for a kilo. So for 13 bucks you can treat 198,000 gallons of water. (3960/20=198, 1 gram per gallon, 1000 gram package. 198x1000=198000)
So it's the same thing, just cheaper? ?? Well my bleach cost $3 for 3L and I use 15ml at the most and 3 -5ml for maintenance so thats pretty cheap as well at 1000 treatments. But hey I guess it is cheaper lol. Like I said I have both, might just stick with the premixed stuff lol.
 

Carolina Dream'n

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I have read that .5 ppm is what you want for preventative maintenance, 2 is the max,
All that information was sourced from my time working at commercial lettuce greenhouse. We ran those exact numbers to keep things sterile. It's crazy the cost cutting steps they take in commercial food production without a single loss of production. Our community could learn a lot from their methods.
 

bird mcbride

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If you only have a ph meter you can ph down a half point lower than bring the water up the half point with the bleach, then check the numbers in this thread and compare. I scale every thing with a good set of digital scales. I've never used a ppm meter and I'm interested in giving everyone a more accurate info with the ph kit calibrated with a ph formula:) Anyone?
 

Budley Doright

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If you only have a ph meter you can ph down a half point lower than bring the water up the half point with the bleach, then check the numbers in this thread and compare. I scale every thing with a good set of digital scales. I've never used a ppm meter and I'm interested in giving everyone a more accurate info with the ph kit calibrated with a ph formula:) Anyone?
You measure the amount of bleach by PH readings? How much bleach is needed to raise say 20 gallons .5?
 

bird mcbride

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I don't have a ppm meter and I'm guessing the water supply might play a role in how much bleach. I do everything with a ph test kit and point scales. City water is already treated so I guess that would play a role also. When I'm making a new mix for the res I do one gallon then I scale it to the res. Any known mixes are written on the wall:) I don't feel I need other equipment because even if I'm starting in a new location I start the fert level out in the res at 1/6 as recommended for outside use. Until the last decade even horticulturist didn't realize that altitute and climate play an important factor in fertilizer dissipitation. This is why there is not a one size fits all. Then I fine tune it incrementally until the plants come out right. When the res is swapped out and everything is fine it all goes to the green room and used once then disgarded. Proven res water is better for the moms and clones. Better to lose a few budders than lose the whole shit show:)
 

Budley Doright

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I don't mind spending $25 on a ppm meter as it also lets you know how the plants are feeding. The EC/ppm meters are the cheap things I don't sweat. It's the ph meters that are ridiculous.
 

swedsteven

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Just soak m'y plant root and the bottom of the clay in 500 ml of water and 10ml of javel wish it help m'y temps was high Last 2 days Just fix it omg this is bad
 

Budley Doright

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Just soak m'y plant root and the bottom of the clay in 500 ml of water and 10ml of javel wish it help m'y temps was high Last 2 days Just fix it omg this is bad
Good luck :(. Even though it's pricey I have had great luck with saving the plants with hydroguard, hopefully you can get temps down.
 

swedsteven

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The one on the right is infected soak in strong javel mix 10ml javel 500ml water all they 9 other are top shape and temp was 30 celsius for 2 days i was busy then i saw that and fix it .it now 25 celsius ... any one think i should kick her out she is the bigger one they are 2 week in
 
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Budley Doright

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At those temps it's only a matter of time before it hits them all IMO. It's a pain but what about ice bottles and insulation
 
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