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RetiredToker76

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I was up at my inlaws around Christmas time and my sis in law said her husband bought her a saddle for Christmas. I asked if it fit her. No one saw the humor in that. Meh, it was perfect.
The proper reply when they get all offended is to say, "Hey not kink shaming, just curious."

Then it gets really fun watching which offended they're trying to express.
 

tyler.durden

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I was up at my inlaws around Christmas time and my sis in law said her husband bought her a saddle for Christmas. I asked if it fit her. No one saw the humor in that. Meh, it was perfect.
A groom carried his new bride into the lobby of a fine hotel one night. He said loudly, "We were just married! Give us your finest suite!" The hotel clerk said, 'Very good, sir! Would you like the bridal?' The groom replied, "No, thank you. I'll just hold her ears until she gets the hang of it..."
 

wakeNbaker46

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i come bearing aphids. pretty significant, on the bubblegum. i just ordered 3000 ladybugs, arriving tomorrow. wish me luck. chernobyl seems to be okay for now. but alas it's supposed to rain (thanks, helene) from like 11am tomorrow until 8pm saturday. so i won't be able to release them until saturday at the earliest.
whhhhyyyyy?????
is this why folks like growing indoors better? what a heartbreaker, to get *this* far along and have bug issues.
 

DMChiz

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i come bearing aphids. pretty significant, on the bubblegum. i just ordered 3000 ladybugs, arriving tomorrow. wish me luck. chernobyl seems to be okay for now. but alas it's supposed to rain (thanks, helene) from like 11am tomorrow until 8pm saturday. so i won't be able to release them until saturday at the earliest.
whhhhyyyyy?????
is this why folks like growing indoors better? what a heartbreaker, to get *this* far along and have bug issues.
I hear ya sister! Bud rot got me good this year. Yields will be comical, but you're right. Limping to the finish isn't what I had in mind.
 

wakeNbaker46

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Stephen King has nothing on you guys :shock: :shock: :shock:
right? ugh. i'm not going down without a fight though. hoping the wind and rain tomorrow knocks some off, the 3000 ladybugs for two plants should be the second punch. i'm also going to wash after harvest for the third line of defense. after that, if it all molds and rots away, i'm going to consider it my dad's spirit. he died on 4/20 and always hated weed. LOL so he's probably got a hand in this somehow.
 

RetiredToker76

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is this why folks like growing indoors better?
In a word, yes. At least depending on your horticultural region. I spent a year during the pandemic working a "green house" dispensary grow in Florida. Considering these houses were originally designed to be flooded with swamp water to propagate tulips, the 'measures' they took at climate control were a joke. In the summer our coolest house ran about 110°F give or take with 99% RH all the time. One morning we came in and it was literally raining inside on the plants. Micro-climates are freaky indoors. Our botritis had a cannabis problem as did our aphids, our benificials were well fed but outnumbered.

It was a distilate farm so everything went first through bud wash, then UV irradiation, then distillation. So theoretically it didn't matter, but I couldn't handle the mold and the bugs. Not to mention the undressing in the garage and literally showering with a spray bottle of 91% Isopropyl before running to my shower to try and keep from bringing home a single spore on my person.

Of the hobby growers there about half of them ran some kind of outdoor system, either vegging indoors and flowering outdoors, or having a wind wall or a greenhouse, every single one of them had mold problems. Even indoors I've been hit with mold a few times, I struggle to keep the outside air outside and our conditioned air inside. On a good week, the coldest and driest in Jan, I might be able to drop the humidity down to about 45% rh at my canopy with two dehumidifiers running.

Unless I move to the NW or a desert, can't see putting these plants outside. Even then that only mitigates some of the out-door problems, pest management is another thing. Indoor, keep the place clean, run at least a halfway decent bug/pest management system and the only bugs I've ever had came home in cheap soil from the cheap big box store.
 
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bursto

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Starting to wish i never thought buying Curaleaf shares was an cool idea bought at 6.97, shares are selling at 4.10, question is should i double down when they cheap or just quit them, sounds like they having dramas with new regulations or something, they went up to 7.50 after i got them i was like woo hoo, now im making more Mutley grumbling noises when i see all the numbers are in red and how bad they are right now
 
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Farmer's Hat

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i come bearing aphids. pretty significant, on the bubblegum. i just ordered 3000 ladybugs, arriving tomorrow. wish me luck. chernobyl seems to be okay for now. but alas it's supposed to rain (thanks, helene) from like 11am tomorrow until 8pm saturday. so i won't be able to release them until saturday at the earliest.
whhhhyyyyy?????
is this why folks like growing indoors better? what a heartbreaker, to get *this* far along and have bug issues.
Good pest resistance is hard to find in most strains because they are bred indoors. I grow indoor and outdoor. The strains I breed outdoors always develop a strong resistance to pests around the second and third generation (f2 -f3).

Its a hassle finding strong outdoor strains.
 

Farmer's Hat

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In a word, yes. At least depending on your horticultural region. I spent a year during the pandemic working a "green house" dispensary grow in Florida. Considering these houses were originally designed to be flooded with swamp water to propagate tulips, the 'measures' they took at climate control were a joke. In the summer our coolest house ran about 110°F give or take with 99% RH all the time. One morning we came in and it was literally raining inside on the plants. Micro-climates are freaky indoors. Our botritis had a cannabis problem as did our aphids, our benificials were well fed but outnumbered.

It was a distilate farm so everything went first through bud wash, then UV irradiation, then distillation. So theoretically it didn't matter, but I couldn't handle the mold and the bugs. Not to mention the undressing in the garage and literally showering with a spray bottle of 91% Isopropyl before running to my shower to try and keep from bringing home a single spore on my person.

Of the hobby growers there about half of them ran some kind of outdoor system, either vegging indoors and flowering outdoors, or having a wind wall or a greenhouse, every single one of them had mold problems. Even indoors I've been hit with mold a few times, I struggle to keep the outside air outside and our conditioned air inside. On a good week, the coldest and driest in Jan, I might be able to drop the humidity down to about 45% rh at my canopy with two dehumidifiers running.

Unless I move to the NW or a desert, can't see putting these plants outside. Even then that only mitigates some of the out-door problems, pest management is another thing. Indoor, keep the place clean, run at least a halfway decent bug/pest management system and the only bugs I've ever had came home in cheap soil from the cheap big box store.
Sounds like a freaking nightmare. First outdoor grow I did in WA, most of the plants had to be cut down early. Many of the strains flowered late. I then learned how to force flower hoop houses, working with C4 farms, down in Little Rock. Its amazing to learn from growers who have decades of experience. They make things look easy. :bigjoint:
 

DMChiz

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Good pest resistance is hard to find in most strains because they are bred indoors. I grow indoor and outdoor. The strains I breed outdoors always develop a strong resistance to pests around the second and third generation (f2 -f3).

Its a hassle finding strong outdoor strains.
Same! Already looking towards next years run and having ‘excellent outdoor cultivar’ or ‘excels outdoor’ in the description becomes a must.

A few from GLG (Mendocino) claim to meet those criteria and have me interested: Curve Breaker, Cali Couture or Made of Honor.

I’m also busting out the pop up greenhouse for next year to really cover my bases.
 
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