Gquebed
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Getting busted with hash in the states, back in the day, was the same as getting busted for coke or heroin. Because it was "processed" into concentrate it was a major crime to posses it. Reefer madness...
Black Hash 20 yrs ago.
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I'd definitely agree with that.
The old world producers, like A-stan, P-stan, India, the Levant and North African regions, just don't have the technical approach that developed here, which is funny, because we can thank one thing for that....
PROHIBITION!
Well, prohibition is certainly not the only reason for the different approach we adopted here, but it is certainly a large contributor. It was prohibition that drove the need and development of indoor cultivation, which in turn lead to a higher quality product, which in turn lead to the demand for higher quality product and the technological race that helped meet that demand. In the old world, there wasn't really ever a need to develop indoor cultivation practices, and in most cases, they didn't have the resources for it anyway.
Regardless, back in the 80's we'd get excited to hear about some foreign weed that showed up in town, but now that same Jamaican, Mexican, or Thai shit we used to love is pretty much swag compared to what the boys in Colorado, California, and Oregon have been growing, let alone the multitude of talented small scale indoor growers that exist in EVERY state are producing. So while places like A-stan and Pakistan were once king of hash, it's the U.S. that sets the standard now, and that pretty much applies to everything ganja related.
The king is dead. LONG LIVE THE KING!
Here you go, dude.
So they're adding water to it and heating it up to make it more pliable, but at the same time, the heat is also decarboxylating it as well. This decarb step isn't done with standard bubble hash until it is actually smoked/dabbed. I wonder what the difference would be in the smoke.
Something I'll have to test in the future.
since1991
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Personally I think its more nostalgia and low tolerance in the younger days and maybe the occasional fire bud from way back that gets the old schooler (i guess iam included) misty and hyped about the olden days. Because Iam about 85% POSITIVE that most of todays modern cannabis (especailly great organic outdoor and fire indoor hydroponic) is alot more potent and flavorful. Same with "hash" or a better term would be concentrates (todays wax and oils and stuff was virtually unseen and unheard of in the 80's and a large chunk of the 90's.) Now yer gonna get old heads saying otherwise but cmon. There just wasnt killer bud and wax/rosin all over the place in those days. We know what we are doing now. We arent boiling our roots or hanging plants upside down to "let the resin drain into the buds". Lol. Our indoor gear/ equipment and knowledge of outdoor methods and soils has moved light years beyond the "Grow your own Stone" books and hippy tales. Just look at it this way. If you could travel back in time with a pound of top shelf grown Gorilla Glue #4 or other great modern stuff and an ounce of some real amber shatter/wax of the highest order...youd be a fuckin rock star to whoever you shared with. You would be the Elvis of Weed. No doubt about it. The people would freak the fuck out on your future buds.
since1991
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Or iam just nuts and the weeds always been good..Just very few people grew the good good or knew how and the reason why it seems better now is because prohibition is going away slowly and growing is popular than ever. I dunno. But I do know what I was smoking in '86 - '88 was NOTHING like todays weed. Night and day. And I wasnt seriously into growing until about 89 to 91....My uncle's and moms friends were starting to get into old school 400 & 1000 watt sodiums amd halides. Them Skunks and Northern Lights were good. But nothing like todays stuff.
macsnax
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I think you're right. I'm in my 30's, and the older guys I know that have smoked forever say it's way more potent today.
Gquebed
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I think youre just nuts. And oldtimers like me like to brag aboutbthe old days.
But really...weed hasnt changed much at all in terms of potency and taste imo.
Theres just way more strains now... and thousands of crossbred mutts.
since1991
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You really think weed hasnt changed much ? Hell I do. I know they werent testing for potency in the 80's and even 90's and I know potency isnt everything but you really think they had a plethora of 22 - 25 - 28 or 30 %ers in the 80's ??? Just a few years ago when testing started taking off 15 to 20% was really wow shit. And past 21 was what the fuk weed. I know the testing isnt the end all be all. But it does give an idea of what you got. And now 18 or 20 plus is the norm.
Gquebed
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There was weed just as potent back then. Just not as much of it is all. I used to know this guy i named Lava Lamp Larry. He would show up at parties and would completely shut them down just by sparking up a few spliffs and spreading them around the house... little mushroom clouds going off as the lights would go out on well seasoned pot heads.... hahahahhahahaha... i used to point him out to people and say watch he does to this place.
Ive never seen anything like it since. Weed like that would only come around a few times a year, but it was always come around around at some point. The question was whether or not you could get your hands on it.
And the only reason i ever got any of his weed was because i called him out one night... after that i could always get a little off of him when i ran into him.
But there was others who had shit just as good. Its just Lava lamp larry always had it...lol
Anyway... like i said. Theres just more stuff around from all over the world. So its not that weed is more potent all around its that theres more variety available from around the world so top shelf is just more common now is all...
Canadain Closet Gardener
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I miss the late 80's early 90's hash, It came in a nice red wrapper. One of the reasons Canada received so much hash was the Lebanese connection. Eastern Canada has a huge Lebanese community.
It stopped when they changed the laws and made importing Coke/heroin/hash/weed all the same sentence. The courts saw no difference in importing 1kg of coke or 1kg of weed. They treated the offenders the same.
I'm guessing there is way more money in coke as it can be stepped on and profit is a lot higher.
Hash and weed slowed down coming into Canada to a trickle but coke...
That's when I think indoor really took off in Canada.
Cheers
CCG
It stopped when they changed the laws and made importing Coke/heroin/hash/weed all the same sentence. The courts saw no difference in importing 1kg of coke or 1kg of weed. They treated the offenders the same.
I'm guessing there is way more money in coke as it can be stepped on and profit is a lot higher.
Hash and weed slowed down coming into Canada to a trickle but coke...
That's when I think indoor really took off in Canada.
Cheers
CCG
Gquebed
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We used to get "Red Leb" hash and oil... very tastey!
Gquebed
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After the soviets left afghanistan the HA couldnt get anymore of the gold seal... and ya in the early 90s they started farms all over OnT, Que and BC. Mostly southern BC.
West coast yanks hate to admit it, but BC supplied the west coast all the way to San Diego with the best weed at the time and most of the strains that are being grown all down the west coast were derived from the BC strains.
since1991
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I used to skateboard at that shitty old ass skatepark in Sarnia on the weekends back in those days. And we would always find excellent hash there. Flint to Port Huron to Sarnia. We dared not bring it back. Always scared of the roto rooter...dont stop till they touch your lungs. Lol.
Gquebed
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Least you had a shitty old skatepark.
We had to build a wooden 1/4 pipe and smash our teeth on it rigjt out on the front street.
Good thing we had good hash...lol
And pretty good boards.
Santa cruz
ACS 651s with 68ml Kryptonics.... cause i couldnt afford Gullwings and Bones...lol
Not at all.
Technology and standards have changed, but the weed is still the same. The only difference between now and then is that the seeded bag of ganja with the sift and stems that used to readily sell back in the day is just not acceptable now. The bomb seedless herb back in the day is still good today, as while genetics matter, how the shit is grown tends to be a bigger factor in the end product.
I can remember only getting like 2 legitimate seedless bags of weed back in the 80's. TWO. Everything else was seeded and at least 20% sift, and we were damn glad to get it.
Some things change for the better. Others, not so much.
Gquebed
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Only two seedless bags in the 80s?
Where was this ish?
Roger A. Shrubber
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weed today is more potent than weed was when i was a kid, but it takes more to get me off as i've aged.
the weed from yesterday that seems like it was as powerful as anything today...wasn't. it just seems that way in our memories. it may have been a damn sight better than anything available at the time, but if you had that bag today, you'd be disappointed.
the weed from yesterday that seems like it was as powerful as anything today...wasn't. it just seems that way in our memories. it may have been a damn sight better than anything available at the time, but if you had that bag today, you'd be disappointed.
An east coast suburban town outside of D.C.. A typical bag of weed was about 45% intact seeded micro-flowers, 20% flower parts, 20% sugar leaf, and 15% seed and stem.
It was mostly garbage, dude.
since1991
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In those heady 80's & 90's I use to find all kinds of crap in the seedy mexi bricks. Lots of dead spiders...flies wrapped in webs...all kinds of stuff. Pebbles. Dank musty odor. Just shit weed. And we bought that crap. The cartel farmers knew how to grow. Good separated sensimilla and whatnot. Its just that it never left the country. They kept good sensi mota for themselves. Sold us the junk. Brick weed that sat in a semi trailer or a warehouse for awhile. I dont miss thay crap at all. The seeds from that brick weed always turned out better smoke if it didnt hermie out. When I was a kid Id always wonder why the seeds I sifted out the crap mexi was better under my little 400 watt halide. And my little homemade flood system. Lol.
since1991
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Jorge Cervates did a High Times article when he went to a cartel farm in central Mexico awhile back. They had good plants. And the towers with kids with AK's guarding the fields. But its how they handled it post harvest. Too labor intensive to do it right. And they knew the gringos would buy it anyways. Why bother with proper trimming drying curing and storage methods?