strictlyflavours
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this is the first i've heard about this stuff, you say its a all in one feed?
Biobizz
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IndoBlazing76
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I also use Ecothrive Charge, amazing stuff and very beneficial to my soil mix. I think I'll try a side by side with my current Biobizz line on my next grow and see if there's any difference. I've been using BioBizz for so long now growing with it is like second nature. Im always up for an experiment though and if I do I'll run a grow journal. I've just put a couple of ladies in to flower so won't be for a little while I'm afraid.
strictlyflavours
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i tell you what mate i seen ecothrive the other day as i seen a thing called realgrowers supercharge which was like £80 for 16oz bag(surely a ripoff?)..and done some research and found out ecothrive do loads of dry ammendments and beneficial bacteria for roots etc at a fraction of the cost and uk based. So would be interested to see how it turns out!
IndoBlazing76
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I've been using BioBizz for well over 8 years now and it's been the easiest growing ive ever done, especially considering some of the growing conditions I've had to grow through. No matter what BioBizz has always got me through and with tasty bud. When mistakes were made it was either my own fault or conditions out of my control. I hope they work as well for you as they have for me.
KK26
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That's what it says and that is exactly what it appears to be. It is very good and no problems at all.
Used it a few years now if I recall correctly, lots have been smoked since the first time.
strictlyflavours
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cheers buddy this will be my first proper run using biobizz but so far its working great!
currently running 2x Devine Storm and 1x platinum gushers by in house genetics.
IndoBlazing76
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Damn, £80, thats some expensive shit. Im all about cheap, lol. Budget growing is how I grow, but if I was given a sample by a shop I'd definitely give it a try. I'm a bit sceptical about the expensive stuff when I've found basic or lower priced stuff to have worked just as well, if not better than some of the higher priced grow nutes/additives, but im happy to try things out.
KK26
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Charge is great and always use it. It not expensive. Smallest tub does a grow for me in 15 to 18ltr pots 5 plants on average so at less than £6 a tub its cheap as fuck.
Biosys is good they say too and if there would be anything ekese I'd add to the Buddhas Tree Organicus and Ecothrive Charge it would be the Ecothrive Biosys.
So simple, cheap as chips, piss easy and great plants every time.
strictlyflavours
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yo you may of just sold me haha i might go and order myself a tub tonight!
can you topdress/water this stuff into the roots?
IndoBlazing76
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Most definitely, I initially mix it in to my soil mix and then top dress as necessary. Ecothrive do some great amendments. I like anything that adds value to my soil. Funny thing is I saw the other day on some online grow shop there's a soil mix out there now that comes pre-mixed with Charge. Ive been doing that for years, brilliant.
IndoBlazing76
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strictlyflavours
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haha that is class, funny when you see things like that, it sucks that its all the newbie growers that end up paying a fortune for these kind of things not realising there's so much cheaper alternatives if they do a bit of research. Just seen there ecothrive biosy's iswell £45 for 250g! wonder how good this stuff is? https://www.londongrow.com/products/ecothrivebiosys?_pos=1&_sid=2127a919b&_ss=r
IndoBlazing76
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I know what you're saying, they're paying top prices for weed and to grow weed. Its harsh, but so easy to get sucked in to the hype of a brand name. Down here in the South West they're paying £50+ for an Eighth of some shit in a Brightly coloured Can that allegedly comes from the States. Folks just need to take some time to do a little bit of research and find those products those that really do work and they normally aren't going for a crazy astronomic price either. I'd like to try the Byosis though, looks really interesting, but the tight arse in me just can't fork over the pounds, haha.
strictlyflavours
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yeah im from southwest too, seeing people pay £60-70 an eighth for cali and seeing stupid prices on ounces like £200-260 for "flavours" which 9 times out of 10 aint no better than what i could get a few years ago for £170-180s, taste wise especially..nowadays its like if its got a half decent name and looks crystally then bam its worth £200 + a oz, despite it actually tasting like shit, burn black as fuck and so on.
Indoor trying to be fully organic all iv got at the moment it biobizz products
IndoBlazing76
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Hey Wigz, You'll do great with the Biobizz line of nutes. I only really use the Veg/Fish mix, Bloom and Top Max and they've given me great results. I do keep Alg-a-mic on hand as well in case of any stress issues. For a PK boost I just use Bat Guano. Lovely Jubbly.
CannaOnerStar
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biobizz is good, but you might get better results if you also supplement their product line with some others, and perhaps leave some out.
Their base nutes are good and not expensive. I have moved to using biotabs product line as my major nute source, but i supplement it with these still and they are my go-to organic liquid nute. HOWEVER i truly hate how thick and sticky and messy biogrow is.
Alg-a-mic + acti-vera combo seems really good and not that expensive(works in soil and foliar fed), you could instead use something like velokelp, but it might be a bit more expensive. From what i have heard its about equally good as those two together and can replace them basically. These are my go-to for kelp and similar stuff, also acti-vera besides having other goods in it, it makes the water wet things more easily, meaning that it doesent leave dry spots in soil as easily if you dont water properly.
Bioheaven i cant say is good or not, but its pretty expensive and im sure there are better and cheaper alternatives to replace this(i have replaced this).
Leafcoat i did not like, while it kept leafs green, they also became fragile and would snap in half. That might be due to some other issues i had at the time, like the high heat + low humidity that caused it. I have some left, but will only use in emergency of mites or that sort of stuff, not try to heal not that healthy plants with this anymore.
Topmax seems something that could also be replaced(and i have replaced), hard to say is its better or worse than its competition with my experience.
Their rooting product(bioroot was it?), well i dont really see difference when using that or other similar products with good reputation. Its not overly expensive imo, so why not?
I really also like how biobizz base nutes can feed living soil with molasses etc stuff that soil likes, so i think they make a great supplement for super soils. However ideally you would want to make a super soil that does not require any liquid NPK supplements and you can find other ways to feed the soil than biobizz nutes. But you might run into a situation where you might want to add some NPK even with them.
Good supersoil > biobizz(but good supersoil is likely better than any other brands as well), but if you dont have the experience with making supersoil or dont care to learn to do it properly, then chances are that biobizz will do you better and i doubt you would see a big difference between good supersoil grown weed and well grown using biobizz. Plenty of people grow fire with biobizz, its more about skills INCLUDING skills in using what ever you use, not only general growing skills.
Their base nutes are good and not expensive. I have moved to using biotabs product line as my major nute source, but i supplement it with these still and they are my go-to organic liquid nute. HOWEVER i truly hate how thick and sticky and messy biogrow is.
Alg-a-mic + acti-vera combo seems really good and not that expensive(works in soil and foliar fed), you could instead use something like velokelp, but it might be a bit more expensive. From what i have heard its about equally good as those two together and can replace them basically. These are my go-to for kelp and similar stuff, also acti-vera besides having other goods in it, it makes the water wet things more easily, meaning that it doesent leave dry spots in soil as easily if you dont water properly.
Bioheaven i cant say is good or not, but its pretty expensive and im sure there are better and cheaper alternatives to replace this(i have replaced this).
Leafcoat i did not like, while it kept leafs green, they also became fragile and would snap in half. That might be due to some other issues i had at the time, like the high heat + low humidity that caused it. I have some left, but will only use in emergency of mites or that sort of stuff, not try to heal not that healthy plants with this anymore.
Topmax seems something that could also be replaced(and i have replaced), hard to say is its better or worse than its competition with my experience.
Their rooting product(bioroot was it?), well i dont really see difference when using that or other similar products with good reputation. Its not overly expensive imo, so why not?
I really also like how biobizz base nutes can feed living soil with molasses etc stuff that soil likes, so i think they make a great supplement for super soils. However ideally you would want to make a super soil that does not require any liquid NPK supplements and you can find other ways to feed the soil than biobizz nutes. But you might run into a situation where you might want to add some NPK even with them.
Good supersoil > biobizz(but good supersoil is likely better than any other brands as well), but if you dont have the experience with making supersoil or dont care to learn to do it properly, then chances are that biobizz will do you better and i doubt you would see a big difference between good supersoil grown weed and well grown using biobizz. Plenty of people grow fire with biobizz, its more about skills INCLUDING skills in using what ever you use, not only general growing skills.
CannaOnerStar
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From what i understand there should be no harm in giving it too much. Thats why i never cared to measure it, but just throw it about 2-5ml per L straight from bottle. Same with activera
What do you think is harm of overdoing it? I have been thinking lately about the effect of putting in too much of these additives with natural hormones or vitamins etc that these have. As i have also been giving supervit for example