Bio flame for bho?
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OldMedUser
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Anything denatured will screw up your oil so no it won't work. They add the denaturing stuff, balsam oil usually, so you can't drink the ethanol without becoming very sick and puking your guts out.
I've just read on a few other places it's ok it's ethanol and iso.Anything denatured will screw up your oil so no it won't work. They add the denaturing stuff, balsam oil usually, so you can't drink the ethanol without becoming very sick and puking your guts out.
OldMedUser
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In your original post you said it's denatured. Is that not so? If it is and you use it remember that you'd been warned.
rob333
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under vacuum presure she should be alright
OldMedUser
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Heat it up until it boils. Should be boiling at 90. Both EtOH and ISO boil below 90.
So is it denatured or not?
So is it denatured or not?
it's says denatured on it..I've read that means there's something other then ethanol, in this case it's iso..Heat it up until it boils. Should be boiling at 90. Both EtOH and ISO boil below 90.
So is it denatured or not?
From what I can gather ..
Not even sure if it worked or I did something wrong .
One the left is the one I winertized
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OldMedUser
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DOH! Now it dawns on me. Ethanol denatured WITH isopropanol. Good to go. 
I've never seen that stuff here but then I don't buy solvents at the drug store. We can get Everclear here at the liquor store or pure ISO at the farm supply store in gal jugs.
I mainly use naphtha or butane to make my oils and don't winterize nothin' but my car.
How's it taste? I like the look of the one on the right myself. I add kief to oil like that and make a nice gummy black hash.
I've never seen that stuff here but then I don't buy solvents at the drug store. We can get Everclear here at the liquor store or pure ISO at the farm supply store in gal jugs.
I mainly use naphtha or butane to make my oils and don't winterize nothin' but my car.
How's it taste? I like the look of the one on the right myself. I add kief to oil like that and make a nice gummy black hash.
Nice bro..the one in the right well..DOH! Now it dawns on me. Ethanol denatured WITH isopropanol. Good to go.
I've never seen that stuff here but then I don't buy solvents at the drug store. We can get Everclear here at the liquor store or pure ISO at the farm supply store in gal jugs.
I mainly use naphtha or butane to make my oils and don't winterize nothin' but my car.
How's it taste? I like the look of the one on the right myself. I add kief to oil like that and make a nice gummy black hash.
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My last ten runs come out half shitty looking shatter and half budder.
I got my vac chamber n pump from best value vacs $620 cad total..120 at the door lol.
That was my first run ..you'd last if u seen what I ran ..outdoor mostly leaves barley any trim lmao .. mind u I ran qp tube and 2oz tube 7-8.cans ... only looks to be a two grams hopefully haha
I'm hoping having chamber heat pad set to 90-95 I won't have anymore issues .
Maybe also don't need to winterize anymore..clearly it didn't work out ? Why is the shit on the right not looking like shatter after I filtered again but more of a cookie lol
OldMedUser
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I really couldn't tell you. All the oil I make looks like the one on the right and that's the way I like it. I don't vacuum purge either. After distilling it goes in a pyrex pie plate that I sit on a pot of simmering water and stir briskly for a while to get the last of the solvent out. I like to keep most of the terpenes intact in my oil and most are lost with heated vac purging. Like decarbing bud in the oven. The stink that fills your house is medicine blowing away in the breeze.
Shatter is for hard core stoners more than med patients like myself. I'm getting right into coconut oil extracts of hi-CBD pot I make in a $5 crock pot I got from the thrift store and decarb the pot right in the oil so everything is captured.
Always fun to experiment tho I would spend the $620 on more grow gear. Actually I am. Friday my buddies pick up my order in the city for me and after I call and order a 1000W bulb and a few more things it'll be a bit over $700. Getting a nice Trim Pro Unplugged to save my aching arthritic hands from from all that hand snipping. Slightly used for half price. $675 new.
Shatter is for hard core stoners more than med patients like myself. I'm getting right into coconut oil extracts of hi-CBD pot I make in a $5 crock pot I got from the thrift store and decarb the pot right in the oil so everything is captured.
Always fun to experiment tho I would spend the $620 on more grow gear. Actually I am. Friday my buddies pick up my order in the city for me and after I call and order a 1000W bulb and a few more things it'll be a bit over $700. Getting a nice Trim Pro Unplugged to save my aching arthritic hands from from all that hand snipping. Slightly used for half price. $675 new.
natureboygrower
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do you have a infrared heat gun?you want to point it at your wax and check it.don't rely solely on your controls.also,when you put the lid on the vac,your heat is going to rise (like an oven).dial it back.you're going to have to control it a bit.personally,I vac for 30 minutes,release pressure and let it idle with the lid cracked,heat still on for 30 minutes.then reapply vac.I don't go from hours and hours like some.just until it stops reacting (muffining for a lack of a better word).
bioflame has 'acetate' in it also, it tastes bitter if you touch it with your finger and lick your finger after you make anything with it, no matter how long you let it evap.. bittering agent, so people don't drink it? maybe..
it also.. may or may not have the binding agent from the usual isopropyl also that binds it to water without separation.. but might just have isopropyl prior to water added, then maybe doesn't have the binding agent AND acetate or does.. unsure at this time.. i'll have to ask the company that makes it directly on these questions.. acetate is not toxic on small amounts i've been reading on datasheets, etc.. BUT it works great, makes great stuff.. similar to isopropyl, but possibly with a trade off of binding agent for acetate.. no sure.. i recommend smoking things made from it, but maybe not eating it.. there may be a situation where acetate is accumulating and adding up.. BUT it says burns clean etc, but that just means without a sooty residue in the chimney.. etc.. use at own risk.. using it as a clean up chemical it leaves behind a white foggyness that isopropyl and everclear don't.. so at this time.. i give it a 9/10 or a 0/10 cause it might be bad to use! (shrug).. no bad effects noticed as of yet.. used about 10grams or more of shatter made from it already over the past 6 months.. personally i find it takes different terps out of the bud possibly, and tastes far more terpy than using butane or isopropyl.. i recommend freezing it and bud.. 250ml > 7g.. and putting both in a pot, agitate it with one hand and watch the liquid turn from clear to yellow to green, stop before green, pour through coffee filter, evap at 80degrees on reptile mat, infront of a fan on medium setting.. check 6hrs later, should be close to done, and if dry to the touch like stained glass, then scrape and put on parchment on top the reptile mat at 80degrees again until it turns into a clear glass sheet, put a tool in the freezer, then take it out and mold the shatter to whatever form you want, as it gets too sticky to touch, put tool back in freezer and repeat, and put shatter in fridge for 30 seconds, then take both back out and continue shaping it, if you make it thin enough it will be clear, and perfect looking if all the same thickness.. your welcome everyone.. gluck..
it also.. may or may not have the binding agent from the usual isopropyl also that binds it to water without separation.. but might just have isopropyl prior to water added, then maybe doesn't have the binding agent AND acetate or does.. unsure at this time.. i'll have to ask the company that makes it directly on these questions.. acetate is not toxic on small amounts i've been reading on datasheets, etc.. BUT it works great, makes great stuff.. similar to isopropyl, but possibly with a trade off of binding agent for acetate.. no sure.. i recommend smoking things made from it, but maybe not eating it.. there may be a situation where acetate is accumulating and adding up.. BUT it says burns clean etc, but that just means without a sooty residue in the chimney.. etc.. use at own risk.. using it as a clean up chemical it leaves behind a white foggyness that isopropyl and everclear don't.. so at this time.. i give it a 9/10 or a 0/10 cause it might be bad to use! (shrug).. no bad effects noticed as of yet.. used about 10grams or more of shatter made from it already over the past 6 months.. personally i find it takes different terps out of the bud possibly, and tastes far more terpy than using butane or isopropyl.. i recommend freezing it and bud.. 250ml > 7g.. and putting both in a pot, agitate it with one hand and watch the liquid turn from clear to yellow to green, stop before green, pour through coffee filter, evap at 80degrees on reptile mat, infront of a fan on medium setting.. check 6hrs later, should be close to done, and if dry to the touch like stained glass, then scrape and put on parchment on top the reptile mat at 80degrees again until it turns into a clear glass sheet, put a tool in the freezer, then take it out and mold the shatter to whatever form you want, as it gets too sticky to touch, put tool back in freezer and repeat, and put shatter in fridge for 30 seconds, then take both back out and continue shaping it, if you make it thin enough it will be clear, and perfect looking if all the same thickness.. your welcome everyone.. gluck..