Bio bizz top max Vs bio heaven anyone???

I'm looking for something to spice up the bash!

Anyone with any input on these two products please speak up! i spoke to a dutch fella from biobizz and he said the bioheaven makes a big difference to how much of the other nutes the plant takes up. and the top max increases cell division maybe i should just bite the bullet and by both?!?!

any advice or experience youve had with both !

cheers RIU

Don

bump anyone?????

I've wondered this myself, hope someone answers...

well ive ordered bioheaven just to see really. ive got 6 plants on the grow 3 ak48 and 3 NL x Shiva i might do some side by side experiments with bio heaven and bio bizz veg and bloom. ill also be using big bud and a combo of overdrive/hammerhead

ive just read something rather disturbing about bio heaven:

general feedback from customers suggests that overall results have stayed pretty much the same as before when use this product. but tend to drop when you stop using it.far be it from us to suggest that bioheaven was actually part of one of their other products and was removed to make a separate ( and more expensive) product line

im so pissed off i just received my bottle this morning. im pleased i got a little bottle rather than a large on.

I got bio bizz. Then I read on the back that it is pretty much just molasses they refined. I like the omri, as I am shooting for that all organic soil thing.

So now I am well read and I need my bat guano.

If I were you I would top dress with bat guano. Mex for veg and Indonesian for flower.

that would be a killer addition. Also brew your bio bizz first with some worm castings for 24 hours. That will get that bacteria going. 4 tbsp of worm catings a gallon, 4 cups of compost or steer manure a gallon. Add some extra blackstrap unsulohered molasses.

Or just by blue mountain organics nutrient line off ebay. Atleast by their super plant tonic. Wow, these guys got everything. Only advertise by word of mouth. According to hight times their NPK is awesome, also they use guanos as base for NPK which Bio bizz does not.


Do you go buy the bio bizz feed schedule? I guess you need their three products at least. The fourth? You could do it yourself for chepear I bet with all organics from the garden center if you read a little. Inthe end it will have been a nice journey. Check my album.

cheers for the heads up dirt clean i was already looking at the super plant tonic im thinking of going over to coco. well not thinking im going to lol

I have used the biobizz range for my last few grows and always stuck to the grow,bloom and top max (and sometimes root juice when transplanting) but my fellow more experienced grower has used biobizz heaven for his last 2 grows and he has finaly hit his 1watt to 1 gram ratio (running 2 600w hps) with the stuff so i am going to give it ago my self, what i don't understand is all the growers on this site combining the range your meant to use only bioheaven by its self though out your hole grow or use the grow, bloom and top max not mix them all up your just asking for trouble

Dozer001 said:

what i don't understand is all the growers on this site combining the range your meant to use only bioheaven by its self though out your hole grow or use the grow, bloom and top max not mix them all up your just asking for trouble

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I don't think you know what you're talking about. It says right on the Bio heaven bottle to be used with other nutrients/fertilizers like their bio bloom and top max.

I've been using all BioBizz products for the last few grows. I've done some testing without adding bio heaven to some plants and it really makes a difference in the amount of nutrients plants take in with it compared to without. While it does kind of cost a lot I find it to be completely worth it because it speeds up growth a noticeable amount. It increase the amount of minerals taking in by about five to six times what they'll take in without it. It also helps your plants hold their water a lot better.

I'd estimate that using it increases your yields by about 15-25%

The major downside is coast, at ~$75 a liter it seems like a lot but the amount it can increase in yields is worth it.

I use all of the Bio-Bizz range. From root juice to top max. Why are you putting VS inbetween them? They are friends not enemies! Use both! Everyone i know does. If you take a look at the bio-bizz grow chart on google, you will see it shows to use both. Hope this helps you! happy growing GW

cheers GW but I've moved on quite a way. i run the canna line now in coco with a few bits n bobs of other stuff. cheers anyway tho

Don Gin and Ton said:

I'm looking for something to spice up the bash!

Anyone with any input on these two products please speak up! i spoke to a dutch fella from biobizz and he said the bioheaven makes a big difference to how much of the other nutes the plant takes up. and the top max increases cell division maybe i should just bite the bullet and by both?!?!

any advice or experience youve had with both !

cheers RIU

Don

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Bio-bizz - Ditch the lot, all these extras just aren't needed go for GH (general hydroponics) trio series, or PM ( plant magic Old-timer) grow & bloom then you've got choices with extras such as Koolbloom if that's what you require but in all my time Bio-bizz has never lived up to what I expected so they've been given the heave-ho, but it is all up to you £40 - £50 for a liter of heaven OMG thats your nutes for a whole grow if using GH - 3 x 1 liter Grow, Micro and bloom - £27 - say no more

Don Gin and Ton said:

I'm looking for something to spice up the bash!

Anyone with any input on these two products please speak up! i spoke to a dutch fella from biobizz and he said the bioheaven makes a big difference to how much of the other nutes the plant takes up. and the top max increases cell division maybe i should just bite the bullet and by both?!?!

any advice or experience youve had with both !

cheers RIU

Don

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The Dutch master is talking shite, he has to say that, it's his job - The Who - "Don't get fooled again" ! ATB and happy growing keep it green and full of light 100,000 lumens worth LOL

thanks for the input, I run canna these days anything with more than a few bottles in the lineup is bs.

bio heaven is cool, i mixed up sensi bloom, bio bloom, bio heaven. doubled 4 plants in one week..

no shit?
just made the leap man , only coco last 5 grows. HUGE results but harsh nugs. . got the top max, grow, bloom, I know it was not the coco, but this dirt stuff is different. I want to overcomplicate DIRT!

I question any company that can claim 25% increase by using Just 1 additive,wtf

i use both together and love the biobizz line. they sent me two huge boxes full of samples that lasted me all this grow and i still have some left this is the line i will be sticking with. i dont know where you live but if you go to there website and go to contacts and ask for a sample they will send you a box full. the plants i grow with biobizz where my biggest plants with the most fingers on each leaf has the strongest smell and has the biggest stock it grow so fast she has stretch marks all around the plant, before this i did not know plants could get stretch marks and a huge ass stock bottom of the plant looks like a tree trunk

clouds said:

i use both together and love the biobizz line. they sent me two huge boxes full of samples that lasted me all this grow and i still have some left this is the line i will be sticking with. i dont know where you live but if you go to there website and go to contacts and ask for a sample they will send you a box full. the plants i grow with biobizz where my biggest plants with the most fingers on each leaf has the strongest smell and has the biggest stock it grow so fast she has stretch marks all around the plant, before this i did not know plants could get stretch marks and a huge ass stock bottom of the plant looks like a tree trunk

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Yeah I used biobizz myself mate I used to use Canna but wised up to all this nutrient malarkey and do organics now and I am blown away with it, I have used their bio heaven and I the only thing i noticed it do was give the plants shiny healthy look to them but I seen no difference in the size of the Bud's tbh, certainly didn't see a 25% increase in yield Like someone is claiming here lol I am in uk mate and most of these companies are USA or Dutch so I'll probably have to pay postage anyway

Jay7t5 said:

Yeah I used biobizz myself mate I used to use Canna but wised up to all this nutrient malarkey and do organics now and I am blown away with it, I have used their bio heaven and I the only thing i noticed it do was give the plants shiny healthy look to them but I seen no difference in the size of the Bud's tbh, certainly didn't see a 25% increase in yield Like someone is claiming here lol I am in uk mate and most of these companies are USA or Dutch so I'll probably have to pay postage anyway

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i know with biobizz you just give name and address and they send it to you. the two they sent me cost them about 112 to send to me