Bhutanese Thimphu - smoke report

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This is an exotic long term sativa, that I got from Holy Smoke seed. I let it go 16 weeks before harvest.

Flavor is poor, tastes woody, with a distinct ditch weed aroma. Potency isn't bad, quality is average. I can see why some people say they don't like sativas.

I wouldn't grow this again, it would probably do better outdoors, and if you live somewhere near the equater. It might be worth a try for you, but indoors, forget it.

Thanks for the "heads up

Fuq I just ordered this I really hope you got a bad pheno no offense. I guess I have to look forward to the bunch of freebies they threw in. Damn it.

Ok after thoroughly searching I have yet to find a Bhutanese Thimphu that looks like yours. Yours doesnt resemble the example shot on the website or anyother growers that posted this strain. I feel my small amount of skillz will be pushed with this one. Time to persevere.

Did you get it from the single seed center, like I did?


In my opinion all the seeds I got from the single seed center, (other then the free ones) seemed to be sub standard.

I've just got an order with more seed from them, I'm going to be popping that soon.

If you get the same thing I did, and are growing them under HID's it will probably be pure crap then.

As my fluro lighting system always brings out the best in any cannabis I've tried. And I've grown these type of sativa strains with fluros before, then put the same clone under HID's. And they always perform more poorly under HIDs.

And to be honest, there is another factor at work, my sativa strains beat everybody elses... So to be honest, you might grow this stuff out and think it's fairly good.

There is a wild dissconnect, from the pure or mostly pure sativa strains, that I see now. And the imports I use to get a long time ago, like Columbian Gold and Panama Red, Thai etc.

(You may have heard a similar line from other people along the way about exotic sativas)

Fellow name of Brick Top, seemed to know what he was talking about on exotic sativas, despite others not seeming to like him.
But I thought him quite knowledgable on the subject.

Back around 2000 I came on the internet. My mission was to introduce a new line of seed. And to collect sativa genetics that other people had for sale or trade. This brought me into contact with breeders like Mr. Soul and Dr. Greenthumb. I pick those two characters, as they tend to represent the best and the worst of what I found in my adventures.

I refer to it as an adventure, as that's what I feel it was. Meeting all sorts of people in ways that just a few short years ago wasn't possible. And as they say,"the past doesn't always match, but often rhymes". So it is with people and friends, and sometimes you will meet someone very far away that for the world reminds you of an old pal. But differes in some strange and mysterious way.

So it was with Marc Emery, reminding me in ways of and old childhood school mate. (But with a dark side, I couldn't quite imagine at the time). Marc comes to mind in the story, as it was he that told me. Any fond rememberence of exotic sativas that didn't seem to exsist anymore,... was just that, Simply a fond memory and nothing more.

Well, I would take issue with that statement. And find it perplexing as well, for if I compare it to other things. The theory seems to come up short.

For example, I'm not a drinker by any means, and I haven't had a beer in a long time. But that's not to say I wouldn't know what one was, or had forgotten what it tasted like, or the type of buzz it gave me. No, of course not, I'd know right away, just like anyone would. And the idea pretty much applies to anything else as well.

But at any rate, as I was saying I came on the internet. To gather sativa genetics, and to unleash my own.

And aquire seeds I did,... so many of them, we couldn't start them all.

Our first aquisiation of seed from any type of bank, was from the original seed bank, that started up in Holland. Where basicly most cannabis genetics originated from. We hybridized Garlic Bud with a selection of the 5000 Jamaican Indica seeds we brought back from Jamaica.

But were not to that part yet
Okay, I came on the internet, and landed at Marc Emery's Cannabis Culture site. And that was because I had bought seed from Marc earlier from his magazine. And had been writing him letters about cannabis, and donating to his relief fund. From the seed I had gotten from Emery, I liked the jack herer he had enough under my fluroscent lights to breed into it.

I crossed my inbred Jamaican sativa genetics with Emery's Jack Herer, to produce cuttings like:
Fantasia and the New Hawaiians.

FANTASIA^


NEW HAWAIIAN

JACK HERER^

The Jack Herer picture was one of the seeds from Emery, it was Haze dominant, and my favorite of the 3 Herer females I found, that represented the 3 components of Jack Herer, Haze, Northern Lights, and Skunk #1.
The Haze dominante in the picture is seeded, and is part of the Fantasia cross.

Here's another part of what makes up Fantasia, Columbian indica.

COLUMBIAN INDICA

The Col. Indica has been seeded by my strain crossed with Jack Herer, and the seed^ produced the Fantasia cutting. Fantasia was incredible under my fluro light system. For the world reminding me of the little girl that turned into a blueberry, in "Willie Wonka and the chocolate factory"
As the flavor was of an incredibly rich blueberry sryup oozing down your throat, like nothing I have tasted before or since.

how long did you cure for vince? makes a very big difference with most sativa's.

Smoking that good old columbian gold:

I remember loving that gold weed, other people made comments about it being bleached gold. I never really knew if they knew what they were talking about. I had always imagined they were talking about sun bleaching. As the story goes the pot was girdled (the stalk is shaved), and it is left in the field to dry and cure before harvesting.

I would smoke a small joint of it and get so high. I remember being so dopey laying on the floor not wanting to get up to give my friend a ride home. And actually paying him to walk home a few blocks away.

Panama Red: They use to call it laughing bud, because that's what it would make me you do, laugh. I remember I would laugh so hard my ribs would start to hurt sometimes smoking it. Truly delightful, a fantasy come to life

Curing?

No, it wasn't very long at all, and sativas of course do improve with age. But it wouldn't have been that much better, if I had left it to cure a lifetime. It's just not that good, I much prefer the Dinafem's I grew out. True they were around 11 weeks flowering time. And I have to say I find anything over 8 to 9 weeks unacceptable for the most part.

And yes I'm very critical

And here's some of my outdoor sativa.

This stuff is radically fast, extremely sativa in high and flavor. And even though outdoors is inferior quality for the most part (unless you live on a tropical island) my average ditchweed cross with my strain is superior to the indoor Bhutanese I grew out in this thread.

I bring up ditchweed, because that is how I produced my Wonderjacks clone. The speed and vigor of these plants is amazing. And no small yield like these Ruderalis/automatic crosses. These things yield like a bear! and the quality and potency is much better then rudy and rudy crosses.

Outdoor flowering time: my Wonderjacks clone is about 5 weeks flowering time indoors. And gets done in the northern United States, the 1st of Sept. under normal outdoor conditions. (You could get longer or earlier depending on the weather)

[video=youtube;LkXipQMnX3k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkXipQMnX3k[/video]

Here's a short but informative video I did on breeding with hemp and ruderalis.

Some closer shots of the resin on my outdoor super fast, sativa ditcher cross.

These were grown outdoors^ in the northern part of America.

Vincent VonBlown said:

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This is an exotic long term sativa, that I got from Holy Smoke seed. I let it go 16 weeks before harvest.

Flavor is poor, tastes woody, with a distinct ditch weed aroma. Potency isn't bad, quality is average. I can see why some people say they don't like sativas.

I wouldn't grow this again, it would probably do better outdoors, and if you live somewhere near the equater. It might be worth a try for you, but indoors, forget it.

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Quit lying to yourself you got ripped off.

I'm growing it and it's amazing

I'll gladly post pics, video? Whatever's? I ordered from a credible source, attitude seed bank!

An interesting small story, that relates to the Bhutanese. =>

A friend that I met recently, who has puffed the Wonder Thunderstruck clone. Told me they smoked some pretty good cannabis from another party, and wondered if I would like to try it.
I said sure. They said they thought it tasted real good, and I would enjoy it.

So, I bought some (400 an ounce), well trimmed, rock hard nug with crystals. So me and my friend sat down and smoked some. However when we smoked it, it tasted very similar to ditch weed, which in turn was very similar to the Bhutanese. I said it tastes like ditch weed to me, let me turn a bit into sift hash. (As when you turn bud into hash, it becomes more flavorfull and more potent. It more or less shows you the essence of what you are smoking)

Well, the hash tasted even worse then the bud. I'll say this though, the Bhutanese, was much better in hash form then my friends bud was. Despite them both tasting like each other, and ditch in bud form.

My friend said gee, when I smoked a bit in a pipe yesterday it seemed much better...

I smoke tons of elite clone hash everyday, I've never run into anybody that was selling anything that matched the clone. So, I told my friend, don't worry about it, it's easy to get confused sometimes.