BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

EvasiveGrower · Aug 8, 2013

Thx for the help guys. I've made wax before but on accident and was never able to reproduce, not to mention variables constantly changing, strain, vac temp, etc.

up to 128 and seems to be waxing!!! I'll leave it be until it looks completely waxed out?

vacpurge · Aug 8, 2013

yup its drying/waxing. just leave it sit until it looks like its dry like this:

Guzias1 · Aug 8, 2013

EvasiveGrower said:
Thx for the help guys. I've made wax before but on accident and was never able to reproduce, not to mention variables constantly changing, strain, vac temp, etc.

up to 128 and seems to be waxing!!! I'll leave it be until it looks completely waxed out?

you got it mang, just keep the same heat, dont exceed 128. and use 29.5 + hg. finish her off...

EvasiveGrower · Aug 8, 2013

Great success. 120F for 12hrs, raised to 130F for 6hrs. It could probably go for another day, it stopped bubbling then i released vac about 30mins after no activity, i just got anxious and had to try this stuff! This is the result. Thanks for all the help fellas!

doubletake · Aug 9, 2013

Hell yea man nice, so 18 hrs in all? What was your material to start with?

EvasiveGrower · Aug 9, 2013

I started with around a 1/2lb of sugar trim and some b nug mixed in, 2 pulls, 5 cans, mostly jack herer. Out came 11.6g cookie.

is there a point of no return for waxing, ie you get the oil too hot? I've had this in there for 12hrs at 128-130F and still the same, but this glob did reach excess of 250~F on accident before I attempted this. Maybe the last 6hrs are key, ill know by this afternoon.

doubletake · Aug 9, 2013

Nice yea man I was so pissed I went 30 minutes out of my way to pick up a qp of shake and that shit yielded only like 2.5 grams of dark dark brown oil almost black, has been purging for like 4 hrs tho and it's like a taffy texture idk if I even wanna waste my time purging it more.
im definently sticking to blasting buds even tho Its not as economical.

vacpurge · Aug 9, 2013

good question. if you get it too hot, it could possibly "burn" it and keep it from becoming wax... turning it into "gooo foreverrrrr" we call it.

thats been the thought process around here for a while now.

but lately, ive been thinking... maybe there isnt a point of no return, where you get it too hot and keep it from becoming wax...

I wonder if you took "goooo foreverr" (oil that wont wax since its been brought above 130F) brought it to 160F, or hell, even 200F and let it sit in the chamber at that heat, even for a month if thats what it took. wonder what would happen.... would it dry out and wax up still?? might lose a ton of flavor, and potency... but thats what wax is all about!!!

basically what im asking is, is there really such a thing as "goo foreverrr"

vacpurge · Aug 9, 2013

doubletake said:
Nice yea man I was so pissed I went 30 minutes out of my way to pick up a qp of shake and that shit yielded only like 2.5 grams of dark dark brown oil almost black, has been purging for like 4 hrs tho and it's like a taffy texture idk if I even wanna waste my time purging it more.
im definently sticking to blasting buds even tho Its not as economical.

2.5 gram return from 112 grams, thats like a 2% return... sounds like you might have did something wrong, or the shake was a world record low quality.

I can see more than a 2% return off just stems!!!

doubletake · Aug 9, 2013

Ya seriously they had to of blasted it b4 is what I think cause I do the same process I always do.

greenghost420 · Aug 9, 2013

wow i got some bad shake and am getting 2+ grams per 30gs of shake. and this shake has no crystals on it at all...

Guzias1 · Aug 9, 2013

greenghost420 said:
wow i got some bad shake and am getting 2+ grams per 30gs of shake. and this shake has no crystals on it at all...

that sounds like good shake! i got just under 3 grams with some decent shake.

greenghost420 · Aug 9, 2013

damn i must be doing something right lol just barely over 2gs...i thought i had some bad shit till i see he got 3gs from a qwappa

adam soza · Aug 9, 2013

I definitely think there is a way that if you go too high on the temps you get "goo forever". It happened to me twice and I tried everything under the sun to get it to wax up and even two weeks later it still has that sticky, runny texture to it.

doubletake · Aug 9, 2013

greenghost420 said:
damn i must be doing something right lol just barely over 2gs...i thought i had some bad shit till i see he got 3gs from a qwappa

Use some common sense to figure if you got good shit.vif you pulling 10 percent of wax that's 10 percent thc then obviously that's good off shake. Shit that's good on some low grade outdoor.

greenghost420 · Aug 9, 2013

to be exact 10 percent would be 3.5, i ran 35g. i got about 2.2 from some pretty shitty shit. wasnt moldy or funked up but just midgrade shake. i was expecting 10% and am not happy with my overall yeild...iv been running 40 getting about 2.5. so i get about 7-8% off this. of the 2.5 i have to wash everything down to reclaim the .5 so im working hard for my oil!

adam soza · Aug 10, 2013

Damn, and I thought my yields were bad. I think fresh frozen is the way to go. I did it for the first time yesterday and can definitely see a difference. Not only in the lighter color of the oil but also the yield looked greater than what I usually get (won't know until final weight obviously).

650baquet · Aug 13, 2013

adam soza said:
Damn, and I thought my yields were bad. I think fresh frozen is the way to go. I did it for the first time yesterday and can definitely see a difference. Not only in the lighter color of the oil but also the yield looked greater than what I usually get (won't know until final weight obviously).

Yep...don't let trim/bud sit around getting bone dry then expect the best yield.
The sooner u perform the soak/wash the more lighter flavors will be retained.
Sadly I have not been able to run any due to waiting on a harvest....2wks left then time to get Trainwrecked

Guzias1 · Aug 13, 2013

650baquet said:
Yep...don't let trim/bud sit around getting bone dry then expect the best yield.
The sooner u perform the soak/wash the more lighter flavors will be retained.
Sadly I have not been able to run any due to waiting on a harvest....2wks left then time to get Trainwrecked

Just chop then down early

I had to give up my 600 watt. Chopped down 3 plants only 5 weeks into flower. Was very sad... but now I can't wait to see the oil it produces ,

openhorizon · Aug 13, 2013

Hello,

I am new and have a question as to when to know when wax is done. Ive run three times. first was a fail (burnt) second was ok third was better. firs pic is second run with sour diesel, next pic is third run OG kush after 3 purges, then og after 4th purge, last pics are of equipment. Can some kind soul give feedback and maybe say how many more times I need to vac purge and for how long. Thanks