BHO vs QWISO

midnitetoak

Active Member
I have been hounding veteran RIU users here for awhile trying to decide what method of extraction is best. I think both methods can produce decent oil and there are distinct advantages and disadvantages to each. For the benefit of those who want to try extracting honey oil this thread can serve as a forum to help decide what way is best for their situation. I think a lot of people are put off by solvent extraction simply because it is easier to just roll a fatty or pack a bowl but dabbing honey oil is much more potent, cleaner, and doesn't smell up your house as much as smoking. Making concentrates is a benefit that every grower should know how to do and a great way to process trims with minimal waste.

I made my 1st batch of QWISO a month ago & was amazed how easy it is. Qwiso is the simplest way to make honey oil but it can take up to 2 days to finish. I find that qwiso tends to be thinner than BHO and harder to make shatter or wax out of it but a sticky taffy is easily done. If you live in an apartment or have no place outside to purge then qwiso is your best option because it can be purged indoors with minimal risk of fire. Prep time is longer because it is recommended to use bud and ISO that is as cold as possible from the freezer. Qwiso purges at room temp which makes it easy to work with.

Made BHO shatter for the first time last night and I found the yield to be almost double that of qwiso using same quantity of material & same strain. However purging BHO is a much more involved process than qwiso & requires heat and vacuum purging. If not careful any spark can ignite an explosion so extreme caution must be used when making BHO. I used a mityvac hand brake bleeder and suction cup to purge in a hot water bath with a jelly jar but it would take goddam gorilla hands get it to wax IMO. There must be a reason everyone else here is using a 3+ cfm vac pump & vac chamber to purge their oil....cause doing it by hand is a fuckton of work. It doesn't take long to heat purge butane....like 15 mins, but the vac purge process can take several hours and several purges before "mellow" oil is achieved.
What method of extraction do you prefer?
 

Guzias1

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bho! yo! :]

i use qwizo for other small runs though..

i can imagine running lbs of qwiso the way i qwizo..

single wash yields are tremendous over qwizo as well.

qwizo is simply simple though, with a tiny bit of time.

bho can be quick..

i like um both, prefer a winterized bho though.
 

mrcryce

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. Qwiso purges at room temp which makes it easy to work with.
Butane is unequivocally easier to purge than iso because its boiling point is 83C lower than the boiling point of iso. The obvious disadvantage to bho is the risk of catastrophic injury/damage compared to qwiso. In the end it comes down to which you prefer smoking.
 

AllDayToker

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It's defiantly preference to the individual. I personally have never went back to ISO once I started making BHO.

I love the variety of consistencies, taste, colors, and combinations of BHO. I also think it burns better and smoother.
 
BHO for sure. I use the vacuum pump, it sure makes life easy lol. Hate to thread high jack, anyone know where to get a good bubbler for bho on the cheap? Under $200 would be nice.
 

midnitetoak

Active Member
It's defiantly preference to the individual. I personally have never went back to ISO once I started making BHO.

I love the variety of consistencies, taste, colors, and combinations of BHO. I also think it burns better and smoother.
Yup I see what you mean it's like ya never hear of snowboarders going back to skiing. I agree I think the BHO vapes a bit smoother
 

midnitetoak

Active Member
bho! yo! :]

i use qwizo for other small runs though..

i can imagine running lbs of qwiso the way i qwizo..

single wash yields are tremendous over qwizo as well.

qwizo is simply simple though, with a tiny bit of time.

bho can be quick..

i like um both, prefer a winterized bho though.
yes winterization is my next project..your BHO thread was very helpful in understanding the muffin purge process
 

qwizoking

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Or hexane....
Butane imo is for either lazy people or those who can't afford hexane...it literally has no advantages other than being easier to purge....yet many disadvantages

Qwiso is more difficult to get a good product..
 

midnitetoak

Active Member
BHO for sure. I use the vacuum pump, it sure makes life easy lol. Hate to thread high jack, anyone know where to get a good bubbler for bho on the cheap? Under $200 would be nice.
One day soon a vacuum pump will arrive at my doorstep... Ready to put one on layaway. Got myself a cheapo rig from greenbuddhashop.com but I'm sure it's Chinese crap
 

midnitetoak

Active Member
Or hexane....
Butane imo is for either lazy people or those who can't afford hexane...it literally has no advantages other than being easier to purge....yet many disadvantages

Qwiso is more difficult to get a good product..
Maybe that's why I like it...I'm lazy as fuck. I think you are right though, if I had a shit-ton of sugar leaf trims I would run BHO or bubble hash because I'd worry about ISO picking up all the chlorophyll. You need good quality material for decent qwiso but I've seen ppl run garbage through butane & it looks ok when done.
 
One day soon a vacuum pump will arrive at my doorstep... Ready to put one on layaway. Got myself a cheapo rig from greenbuddhashop.com but I'm sure it's Chinese crap
i think i spent $275 for mine. I only run 3/4 of a oz at a time. So I chose a smaller pan to purge with.

@qwiz- i've not heard of hexane, care to share?
 

qwizoking

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Its like butane.. just not as dangerous, pure and less polar,
Hexane is the point where water is no longer soluble, with the longer chain length and extra carbon...it also makes for a slower extracting solvent (makes a more pure product, the reason behind freezing for the most part and all quick washes) higher boiling point(its a liquid at room temp and does not possess the same flammability rating etc, its not given off at the same rates)..

its a superior solvent in every way...
Just 20 bucks a liter or so...

I put a lot of effort into obtaining the purest product possible...pitch dark extractions with no heat during the purge using slightly premature bud and taking care in the extraction process, micron syringe etc....
Qwiso will produce the most pristine extract. Especially using a single wash..and that point really can't be questioned....the only reason I will use a non polar solvent is to be most efficient, (because it can be winterized leaving you without all those extra fats)....I go for quality over quantity every time....I (and my circle) look down on all butane products...it simply tells me your to cheap, lazy, or don't know enough about what your doing

Sorry if I came off condescending....y'all know I love all of ya
 
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