Best Time to Add Dry Organic Ammendments Outdoors in Soil

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GrubGulch

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Hi all,

Wondering about the best time to apply dry amendments like chicken manure, guano, etc to the soil for an outdoor grow? I have pelletized chicken manure and was wondering if it was better to work it into the soil a month or two before planting to get it started breaking down, or if I would end up losing a lot of the nutrients due to rain leaching etc.?? Should I just wait and mix it into the soil when transplanting out?

Also regarding Phosphorus to provide a boost for flowering, I have some guano I was going to add, and was wondering the same thing about the timing. Should I wait till the ladies are closer to flowering and topdress it in, or can I mix it in the soil before planting and not lose all the nutrients?

Thanks!
 
Snoopy808

Snoopy808

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What about your compost? I didnt see you mention that. Its as important as your guanos.

Why?
Compost provides youe CEC sites to hold nutrients in the soil. Provided easy carbon for microbes to mineralize your nitrogen so it doesn't wash out or run off.

Chicken pellets do need some time and moisture to break apart then get microbial breakdown. And to breakdown carbon is needed. Sugar in humans gives us energy: compost to microbes gives them energy. Protein builds muscle and makes water soluble wastes in humans : nitrogen manures build proteins for microbes and makes water soluble wates for plants.

About a month before your target date is a good lead time to prep your hole. Yes monsoon rains can wash out some of your ferts but you can always top dress later if needed.

You can mix directly in the hole at transplant but you would use much less and wouldn't see appreciable growth for a week with pellets.

Phos can be mixed before and at transplant. Its a needed nutrient even in veg. And yes extra when flowering.
 
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GrubGulch

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Thanks all, that helps, I'll add the manures about a month early and yes i've added some compost already and plan to topdress with compost and EWC at planting...happy spring
 
canadiantoker420

canadiantoker420

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Snoopy808 said:
What about your compost? I didnt see you mention that. Its as important as your guanos.

Why?
Compost provides youe CEC sites to hold nutrients in the soil. Provided easy carbon for microbes to mineralize your nitrogen so it doesn't wash out or run off.

Chicken pellets do need some time and moisture to break apart then get microbial breakdown. And to breakdown carbon is needed. Sugar in humans gives us energy: compost to microbes gives them energy. Protein builds muscle and makes water soluble wastes in humans : nitrogen manures build proteins for microbes and makes water soluble wates for plants.

About a month before your target date is a good lead time to prep your hole. Yes monsoon rains can wash out some of your ferts but you can always top dress later if needed.

You can mix directly in the hole at transplant but you would use much less and wouldn't see appreciable growth for a week with pellets.

Phos can be mixed before and at transplant. Its a needed nutrient even in veg. And yes extra when flowering.
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I switched over to Gaia green today at day 10 of flower from the 3 part advanced nutes. Already gave a feeding wit big bud and I been feeding voodoo juice before today’s top dress as well.. I’m doing a side by side of both as I only switched over 4 so far out of the 9.. u guys think I will b fine with just mollasses and nothing more with the Gaia girls? And top dress again day 35-38 ish cuz the gorilla zkittlez ain’t gonna b done for 65+ probly 70 and 8ball n blue cheese probly run 58-65 ..when is the last time u top dress bout 3 weeks out? Will it last a solid 4 weeks or??
 

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canadiantoker420

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I’m battling bugz atm too For two weeks as I know it..got bit of drooping one leaves n shit for the last week but it don’t seem to b affecting bud growth tho thank god. gonna blow them off wit air hose individually like I did 5 days ago an I’m scared to safer endall 2; them again but may end up spraying sum fan leaves on a few of em?? Should I, ahhhh...what a racket boys fuck I hate mites n shit
 
Superbad421

Superbad421

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Like I said in the other post Gaia is a top recommendation for me to give ppl you will have no issue with it and molasses just dose a bit heavy on the Gaia top dressing and work into the soil a inch or two . I also add keep meal worm castings and glacier rock dust when transplanting helps with roots. Also I would do a compost tea to feed the microbes once a week mix a five gallon bucket with ro water add your airstones and pump with your compost mix and let bubble for 24 hrs out of light the more froth in the bucket the better.
 
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