Best Mini Split heating for very cold winters?

Apalchen said:

I should have just bought the tools already. I’m always underestimating what I can do.

But I do have good news, my new unit will be here tomorrow. Delivery company just called. Way faster delivery than ingrams. I mean I just order it like 3 days ago out of Florida and I’m in Mi. I haven’t even done the wiring yet, was thinking it would be at least another week before delivery.

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It’s in and so far working good.

I spent $1100 having my Friedrich split unit installed. They had to run electricity from a drop down service box I have installed below my main service box. They also ran about 60 ft of PVC and conduit on the outside of my home and installed me 3 more outlets into that Den on the end wall of the house which had none. Would have cost 2 grand to have them fish it all through the attic and down the walls. What I like about Friedrich is it has a remote thermostat. I can hang the remote on the wall on the opposite end of the room and the thermostat can work from the unit or the remote. I watched them do the installation its not hard to do I just couldnt handle the additional electric routing I wanted to do.

medicaloutlaw said:

I spent $1100 having my Friedrich split unit installed. They had to run electricity from a drop down service box I have installed below my main service box. They also ran about 60 ft of PVC and conduit on the outside of my home and installed me 3 more outlets into that Den on the end wall of the house which had none. Would have cost 2 grand to have them fish it all through the attic and down the walls. What I like about Friedrich is it has a remote thermostat. I can hang the remote on the wall on the opposite end of the room and the thermostat can work from the unit or the remote. I watched them do the installation its not hard to do I just couldnt handle the additional electric routing I wanted to do.

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That’s a reasonable price with the extra work you had done. My issue comes with paying double the amount the units cost, which is how most hvac guys do it. In the few years I’ve been moving over to sealed rooms, I’ve come to really dislike most hvac techs. I have yet to have one I got a quote from or do work for me be able to tell me anything about cooling grow rooms. I have had several tell me smugly that I didn’t need as much cooling as I wanted. They were wrong, so far I have sized my units perfectly going off advice from on here. If I went smaller like suggested I wouldn’t have been able to run all my lights. Also I have had to read out of the manual to these guys several times to show them what they were about to do wouldn’t work. Guy was dumbfounded it only had one port for gauges, I told him you have to empty the unit of gas and weigh it back in and he didn’t like that or believe it all until I showed him. Then the same guy thought that when weighing in 410a that .5lbs was the same thing as 5 ounces (in case you forgot a half p is 8 ounces). I got several more examples of why I have a hard time hiring these guys. I’m gonna run these diy units into the ground and replace them with more diy when they quit working. The company I just bought from seems to be great so far, I believe any issue I had they would make it right and they answer the phone and text with me , no holding or any other bullshit like with Ingrams or mr cool. Thinking about being a distributor after testing the product for durability for a bit.

Unless I find and hvac tech in northern mi that knows what they are doing. (that’s my plug hit the pm if that’s you) lol

Apalchen said:

Unless I find and hvac tech in northern mi that knows what they are doing. (that’s my plug hit the pm if that’s you) lol

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Sorry bro thats not me I never learned the trade and Im in Oklahoma half a country away...lol Unfortunately with a great trade school here locally many thousands around here have an HVAC certificate. But that doesnt make them good at it. Half assed jobs all over town by these youngsters two years out of school thinking they are experts. You call a "climate control expert" (their words) and you get a guy with a great sales pitch not an experienced tech (but they think they are) Someone is always complaining about these guys on the local Facebook groups for our city. The people you want are the guys that say I'm booked solid for a month and its not even summer. I actually had my split installed by a man from my church that did it for 50 years. He came out of retirement for our one job with his 14 yr old grandson to help him. Much love and respect for that man! If only all these young guys could be so professional and so humble and take such pride in doing a great job. And personally, I hate HVAC people myself I had nightmares (I went with the cheapest quote) when I hired one to install a new HVAC in my pre WW2 home 8 years ago including a fistfight with the owner of the company in my own front yard. He pulled up and rushed me throwing punches in my front yard because I shamed his company on social media for the 70+ times (over 14 months) they said he would come fix the problems and stood me up for the job his sons did. I hated to do it but it worked, they showed even if it was to fight. Freeze to death in the bedroom die of heat in the living room all because they didnt balance the system. But in the end he fixed the poor job his sons did. They charged me $7500 I was kicking myself for not letting Sears or Lowes do it for twice that.

I know I turn a simple post into a long story...thats just me when Im buzzed good and jabbering away!

Good luck in your search. Look for age and experience and you cant go wrong!

If you're good with electrical and have some basic diy skills, you can get a pre-charged minisplit for pretty decent prices, and save a bunch on having a hvac worker come out. I got mine a year ago, and it works great!

https://www.lowes.com/pd/MRCOOL-DIY...onditioner-with-Heater-ENERGY-STAR/1001865280