Best lights for veg???

I am about to switch my veg room over to some type of fluorescent high out put light. I veg 12 plants at a time and i veg them for 40 days under 1 1000w mh light. I am trying to figure out what would be the best lights to use and how many would i need to produce some very good veg plants STOCKEY!!!

The easiest way to go fluorescent is to use the 4 foot tubes. I have used CFL for 3 years. They veg plants great, but you have to move the lights as close as 1 or 2 inches for best results - That can be a real pain if doing a big grow. Using CFL you would do well to use at least 40 CFL's for 12 plants when they get over 2 feet.

led all day. Most efficient. Least amount of watts. Faster veg time

cxb2530, cxb3070, or cxb3590 5000k 70cri top flux bins.

A veg lamp is the best place to invest in LEDs because they're on for such a long period of the day.

Just don't get crap!

I veg first couple weeks under t5s because it keeps them short.. Gives times to develop a nice root system. Then I go to mh and hps to beef them up and get rapid growth. I find this works best, and is what I know to be the most efficienct way to veg (time/money)

You'll find all kinds of good, and bad, info on this forum. For some good, look up a member by the name RM3. He uses nothing but T5's and kills it. Would make anybody who talks shit about T5's sound ignorant. Just check out his threads.

Patrick had some of the best advice here in my opinion what he wrote Is about exactly what I do. But if you can afford the initial cost of leds id go with those and still give them some time under a mh or hps to allow them to beef up

I really like T5HO's for veg....I even go with the stock bulbs (6500K) and my plants flourish under them. I've found that they work best for plants up to around 20" and that's when I flip 'em.

Someone mentioned RM3's grows under T5's and I agree he has it dialed in to flower under them. Honestly I don't think he does too much special in bulbs for vegging his plants though.

T5's it is but can any one tell me which ones work better and produce best light. Any T5s produce more than 40,ooo lumens

t5's put out a lot of heat. 432 watts for a 2x4 Bulbs have to be replaced every 8 months.

My led that's 155 watts covers the same area and out performs a t5. it has a lifetime limited warranty. for veg i use it in veg mode at 110 watts and still covers the same area. For flower I run them in full mode and it takes 3 of those panels for a 4x4 for flower. T5 veg's a lot slower.

I used to run all t5 for veg and flower. The replacement of bulbs ended up costing more than hps bulbs and more often than hps. When I had the money I switched to induction and led. My induction / led combo is 460 watts and covers a 5x5 and out performs a 600w hps. Puts out less heat than an 8 bulb t5. My induction has a full 10 year warranty

with led I veg over a 4x4 with 200 watts. and in the other veg room a 420 watt induction light.

You can build 2 vero 29 cob led's for less than the price of a t5 and cover the same area as a t5 and run 100 - 160 watts depending on how hard you drivbe them. The future of lighting is cobs. T5's are obsolete now.

I started with T12's back in the 1970s, and still use T8's, T5's, cfls, and LED(diy) and Mh and hps, in varying wattages, but thats the biz we are in.........

I urge you to try them all, they all have good and bad,

but above all stop trying and changing your lights the different light levels and kelvins creates undue stress ..leading to herms

use one at most two different vegging lights per grow until you are happy

vostok said:

I started with T12's back in the 1970s, and still use T8's, T5's, cfls, and LED(diy) and Mh and hps, in varying wattages, but thats the biz we are in.........

I urge you to try them all, they all have good and bad,

but above all stop trying and changing your lights the different light levels and kelvins creates undue stress ..leading to herms

use one at most two different vegging lights per grow until you are happy

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If you are getting hermies than you have some shitty unstable genetics. all switching lights do is create a spectral transition where growth slows. Good stable genetics will not hermie in any case.

I just started with 2 - 4 ft 8 Bulb Apollo T5's. I got the pair on Amazon for like $316...They are kinda cheapy looking, but they connect together, and they are super bright, even give off some heat...I love them...

LEDs are where it is at

hyroot said:

If you are getting hermies than you have some shitty unstable genetics. all switching lights do is create a spectral transition where growth slows. Good stable genetics will not hermie in any case.

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I agree my timer took a shit once and I was growing mostly bag seed from feild grows and they all hermed except for my original og kush strain that Igot from a very reputable breeder