Best led for 3x3 tent, help

TJ baba

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I could use like $350 max preferably but I'm growing for personal use so I don't think I need the most expensive. I could use more if absolutely necessary but I don't want to obviously lol.. I'm looking to upgrade from 500w of cfl spiral bulbs @REALSTYLES
 

needsomebeans

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Like I said there is a reason that those lights are out of stock and you can find all kinds of cheap circus lights on eBay. They had some of the 4000k a few weeks ago.
 

az2000

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I could use like $350 max preferably but I'm growing for personal use so I don't think I need the most expensive. I could use more if absolutely necessary but I don't want to obviously lol.. I'm looking to upgrade from 500w of cfl spiral bulbs @REALSTYLES
I believe you are in a 10 sq ft space (2x5, if I recall reading in another thread.). HPS is probably your best choice for your budget.

How tall is the space?

The inexpensive epi-whatever lights you're looking at on eBay/Amazon will grow for your personal use. If you're not sensitive to airy buds, etc, you can grow with them (within your budget).

If you could increase your budget, T5HO for shorter space (or CMH for taller) would be a good option. Or, DIY the COB lights like many here do.

The LED lightbulbs are a direct replacement for the CFLs you have. You could run half the watts, probably. The GE BrightStik is looking like a potential winner for doing this because it is inherently directional (with the diffusion cap removed, but power it through a GFCI outlet to reduce risk of shock). A couple recent threads where it's been talked about:

 

woz from oz

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Wattage will be variable but it's been demonstrated that 1500 PPFD is the maximum light intensity the plants can deal with before growth rates begin to decline. Even with COBs there will be some intensity variance across the canopy so keeping things under 1300 PPFD is a good idea.

6 CXB 3590s at 2.1 amps would provide 1350 PPFD in a 3x3, would be 453 watts dissipated, 231 PAR watts.

6 at 1.75 amps would provide 1145 PPFD (375 watts 200 PAR watts)

8 at 1.4 amps, 1285 PPFD, 398 watts, 223 PAR watts

10 at 1.05 amps, 1230 PPFD, 355 watts, 213 PAR watts

16 at .7 amps, 1360 PPFD, 368 watts, 235 Par watts

I'm thinking any of those 3 middle options would be really intense without being too crazy about it.
Looking at Rahz's suggestions I take it that you have to use 2 drivers to get these results? And the draw on the mains would be the sum of the amps of the drivers? Looking at the table I should be able to run 6 Vero29s on a HLG-240H-c1050 even if they don't completely "fill" the driver. Will this work?
Wattage will be variable but it's been demonstrated that 1500 PPFD is the maximum light intensity the plants can deal with before growth rates begin to decline. Even with COBs there will be some intensity variance across the canopy so keeping things under 1300 PPFD is a good idea.

6 CXB 3590s at 2.1 amps would provide 1350 PPFD in a 3x3, would be 453 watts dissipated, 231 PAR watts.

6 at 1.75 amps would provide 1145 PPFD (375 watts 200 PAR watts)

8 at 1.4 amps, 1285 PPFD, 398 watts, 223 PAR watts

10 at 1.05 amps, 1230 PPFD, 355 watts, 213 PAR watts

16 at .7 amps, 1360 PPFD, 368 watts, 235 Par watts

I'm thinking any of those 3 middle options would be really intense without being too crazy about it.
 

ChadButler

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Wattage will be variable but it's been demonstrated that 1500 PPFD is the maximum light intensity the plants can deal with before growth rates begin to decline. Even with COBs there will be some intensity variance across the canopy so keeping things under 1300 PPFD is a good idea.

6 CXB 3590s at 2.1 amps would provide 1350 PPFD in a 3x3, would be 453 watts dissipated, 231 PAR watts.

6 at 1.75 amps would provide 1145 PPFD (375 watts 200 PAR watts)

8 at 1.4 amps, 1285 PPFD, 398 watts, 223 PAR watts

10 at 1.05 amps, 1230 PPFD, 355 watts, 213 PAR watts

16 at .7 amps, 1360 PPFD, 368 watts, 235 Par watts

I'm thinking any of those 3 middle options would be really intense without being too crazy about it.

I just want the best fucking cob setup for a 3x3. So 8 3590's @1.4a?? I'd be stoked with the results?

Help. I'm tired of researching this shit. I just want to have a shopping list so my buddy can build this thing for me.

No budget issues, just want a good setup for a 3x3.

Links? Advice? This is so over my head... I don't want any prefab shit, just the correct things to buy for a DIY cob setup designed for a 3x3
 

Rahz

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I'd be stoked with the results?
If you can grow a plant then you will be stoked with the results :)

2 HLG-185H-C1400B
8 CXB3590 36v
8 Clamps: 50-2303CR
8 Reflectors: F13838_ANGELINA-XW and reflector holders.
Heatsinks: bars, pin fins, CPU coolers, etc. up to you
50K Ohm potentiometer if you want to wire the dimmers together.

Cutter Electronics should sell most of that stuff or substitute items as individual components. Also Kingbrite. There are some retailers here that sell cobs and kits, PLC, Northern Grow Lights, Timber, etc. Octopart.com can be useful.
 

ChadButler

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If you can grow a plant then you will be stoked with the results :)

2 HLG-185H-C1400B
8 CXB3590 36v
8 Clamps: 50-2303CR
8 Reflectors: F13838_ANGELINA-XW and reflector holders.
Heatsinks: bars, pin fins, CPU coolers, etc. up to you
50K Ohm potentiometer if you want to wire the dimmers together.

Cutter Electronics should sell most of that stuff or substitute items as individual components. Also Kingbrite. There are some retailers here that sell cobs and kits, PLC, Northern Grow Lights, Timber, etc. Octopart.com can be useful.

Fuck yes. Thank you so much
 

REALSTYLES

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If you can grow a plant then you will be stoked with the results :)

2 HLG-185H-C1400B
8 CXB3590 36v
8 Clamps: 50-2303CR
8 Reflectors: F13838_ANGELINA-XW and reflector holders.
Heatsinks: bars, pin fins, CPU coolers, etc. up to you
50K Ohm potentiometer if you want to wire the dimmers together.

Cutter Electronics should sell most of that stuff or substitute items as individual components. Also Kingbrite. There are some retailers here that sell cobs and kits, PLC, Northern Grow Lights, Timber, etc. Octopart.com can be useful.
I've got lower prices now $38 for the CXB3590 and I also carry the Meanwell drivers. I'm the shortcut to Kingbrite just ask Jerry. If you are in the US I'm the man now get at me on Skype my name is the same and we'll chop it up about what I can do.
 

jeepster1993

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I just want the best fucking cob setup for a 3x3. So 8 3590's @1.4a?? I'd be stoked with the results?

Help. I'm tired of researching this shit. I just want to have a shopping list so my buddy can build this thing for me.

No budget issues, just want a good setup for a 3x3.

Links? Advice? This is so over my head... I don't want any prefab shit, just the correct things to buy for a DIY cob setup designed for a 3x3
That is the basic formula for my tent. Using a 2x2.5 tent with 5 cobs running at 50 watts each. 50 watts per square foot.
You will not believe what happens at that intensity.
 

horribleherk

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I'm looking at he amare 250 that has cobs & chips surrounding them they say you can flower 3x3 on the cheap side I'm looking at the vipar 900 not to mention California light works 440 I'm kinda caught between do it once & right or save a few bucks & hope it performs/last a couple of grows for now I'm using a 400 hps I'm wanting to increase my coverage to 3x3 & keep my power bill the same
 

Ford Racing

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1000 ppfd at the bare minimum 1350 ppfd maximum. If the light won't make that happen than don't waste your money
 

Idvw

Member
I’ll tell you what I use: 4 viparspectra p1500 boards over 4 plants in the 3x3. The p1500s are pretty efficient. My apogee par meter reads 1800 at the canopy EVERYWHERE, from corner to corner, with the lights 18” above the plants. However, this is too close for the young plants. But anyway, to me this is a great setup because the light is extremely even giving me good conditions for a flat canopy grow.
 
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