Benzos - your favorites and why

canndo

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I've had lorazapam, diazapam, temazapam, alprazolam and clonazapam.


I went into a controled frenzy under the influence of lorazapam and alcohol that I had never experienced with any of the others.


Alprazolam simply puts me to sleep, even in small doses but I recall the first time I ever had the stuff, there was a glint, a sparkle, a cool frostiness on everything that was enchanting and inviting. After that first time I managed to get more and it didn't have the same effect - more simple dulling than anything else. Through the years I have had that same sort of wonderful experience maybe 5 times total.

Temazapam turns me into a hammer or bag of hammers, a block of wood, dense, thick, thoughts turn slow and unenjoyable and my body gets heavy without the pleasant feelings that normaly acompanies such heaviness.

Clonazapam has yet to really make me happy. I feel tranquil, the chatter in my head quiets, things get slightly distant, both in my field of view and in my attention but there seems to be something missing, worse, I am aware that.... there is something missing the whole time I am on it. I have a script for them and others love them but I just can't quite get behind it.

Diazapam - ah Valium, there is something about it that brings me pure bliss. 10 mg on an empty stomach NO alcohol and within half an hour I am in a slightly removed place, elevated from the cares of the world, perfectly willing to engage others in pleasant conversation - after the "rush" of the first hour or so I will spend the next 4 in peaceful contemplation of things around me, no internal dialog except for "now isn't this pleasant". No chatter, no aprehension, no concern and all of it spiced with a touch of lightness of body and brightness of heart.


What are some other folks favorites and why? (oh, and how much do you take at a time).
 
Been prescribed Diazepam (5mg dose, which is enough for this sativa fan lol) by a doc in UK after complaining that he couldn't prescribe me MJ for my stress (I think he just wanted to get rid of me and my valid and compelling arguments which he seemed to agree with but was powerless to act upon). I agree that it is a pleasant sensation, but it's also a dirty chemical with nasty side effects. They all are. Criminal to my perceptions that the dangerous chemical is available to prescribe, yet the harmless herb is not. Foucault got it spot on imo.

ps, sorry to Hijack yer thread dude. Felt like I wanted to share that though after seeing your thread come up in my feed. :peace:
 
I like Xanax 1mg.
If there's no Xanax, then I'll reach for a 2mg Ativan.
If both of these are unavailable, I go for the 10mg Valium.
If it's only Klonopin, I leave it.

I really don't like Klonopin, I hate the nasty long half life it has. I always wake up more tired than before I went to sleep. I will not use this drug.



I am about to pop 5mg Diazapam .5g Lorazapam.
 
Don't do drugs anymore,but when I did,it was valium...warm content of life..floaty..I injected one 10mg once and it was like a wrecking ball of the afore mentioned effects...bliss overload. Now I smoke hash and get the same affect.but I do remember valium fondly....
 
Been prescribed Diazepam (5mg dose, which is enough for this sativa fan lol) by a doc in UK after complaining that he couldn't prescribe me MJ for my stress (I think he just wanted to get rid of me and my valid and compelling arguments which he seemed to agree with but was powerless to act upon). I agree that it is a pleasant sensation, but it's also a dirty chemical with nasty side effects. They all are. Criminal to my perceptions that the dangerous chemical is available to prescribe, yet the harmless herb is not. Foucault got it spot on imo.

ps, sorry to Hijack yer thread dude. Felt like I wanted to share that though after seeing your thread come up in my feed. :peace:



Dirty? pot has dozens of different chemicals in it, and even more when combusted. The point of pharmaceuticls is that we are enabled to take isolated chemicals, a single molecule without any modifiers and pot won't do that, even when the chemicals in pot ARE isolated, many find that wthout the others, it does not work the same. WE can't say that about benzos. Nor is pot as benign as so many hold. I am concerned when I see comparisons made, chemicals vs pot as though pot were a magic panacea and all other "man made" drugs are objects of the devil.

So far as stress is concerned, I find that pot enhances my stress levels, it causes me to be confused, uncomfortable and edgy. I find myself reviewing my life, re evaluating things in my past and lamenting my choices. Now I am not saying that pot is bad, but I am saying that all chemicals reside on a continum, a curve that shows the relative benifits of a drug against the deleterious effects both long term and short. Pot is high on that curve, few bad effects and plenty of good ones but that isn't to say that 5 mg of valium in order to calm one's nerves is such a bad thing. For me at any rate, pot will do nothing for my mental agitation.
 
I like Xanax 1mg.
If there's no Xanax, then I'll reach for a 2mg Ativan.
If both of these are unavailable, I go for the 10mg Valium.
If it's only Klonopin, I leave it.

I really don't like Klonopin, I hate the nasty long half life it has. I always wake up more tired than before I went to sleep. I will not use this drug.



I am about to pop 5mg Diazapam .5g Lorazapam.


What is it with the klonapin? I was told that it had all of the properties I enjoy, the pleasant numbness, the quieting of inner dialog and a smoother state of conciousness. While I suppose it has all of those things, I am left empty rather than full, as I would be with valium. Unfortunately, valium has somewhat of a bad name so I didn't dare ask my doc for valium.
 
What is it with the klonapin? I was told that it had all of the properties I enjoy, the pleasant numbness, the quieting of inner dialog and a smoother state of conciousness. While I suppose it has all of those things, I am left empty rather than full, as I would be with valium. Unfortunately, valium has somewhat of a bad name so I didn't dare ask my doc for valium.

It gives me a dull feeling, other benzos don't' seem to do that to me. I'm not as sharp with my words and difficulty finishing thoughts. On Xanax, assuming a proper dose, I feel enlightened and quick with the silver tongue. Similar to how you describe your passion for valium.
 
I love me some clonazepam. Good duration, isn't a medical hammer to the skull like alprazolam, and it tastes minty and delicious when taken sublingually. I like diazepam and temazepam a lot as well. And lorazepam is nice in combination with opioids. Especially when shot together. Don't shoot things not meant for injection!
 
I love me some clonazepam. Good duration, isn't a medical hammer to the skull like alprazolam, and it tastes minty and delicious when taken sublingually. I like diazepam and temazepam a lot as well. And lorazepam is nice in combination with opioids. Especially when shot together. Don't shoot things not meant for injection!


So lorazapam is nice in conjunction with opioids? I tried to extend my limited stash with temazapam and just got a sad little nod for my trouble. Clonazapam wasn't much better but I happen to have some lorazapam laying around and wondered how it would work - especially if I took it after taking oh, a bit of dilaudid - or will it put me to sleep?
 
Xanax 2mg (the bars). Makes me completley plastered like I drank a bottle of Captian. Plus it makes me sleep like a baby. I love the feeling of the floating sensation it gives too. If no Xanax available I'll go with 5mg Ambien. That's some trippy shit once I saw a squirl the size of a bulldog run out of a tree and everything had a glowing sparking look to it. Shit was crazy. But I preffer Bars more than anything else
 
Dirty? pot has dozens of different chemicals in it, and even more when combusted. The point of pharmaceuticls is that we are enabled to take isolated chemicals, a single molecule without any modifiers and pot won't do that, even when the chemicals in pot ARE isolated, many find that wthout the others, it does not work the same. WE can't say that about benzos. Nor is pot as benign as so many hold. I am concerned when I see comparisons made, chemicals vs pot as though pot were a magic panacea and all other "man made" drugs are objects of the devil.

So far as stress is concerned, I find that pot enhances my stress levels, it causes me to be confused, uncomfortable and edgy. I find myself reviewing my life, re evaluating things in my past and lamenting my choices. Now I am not saying that pot is bad, but I am saying that all chemicals reside on a continum, a curve that shows the relative benifits of a drug against the deleterious effects both long term and short. Pot is high on that curve, few bad effects and plenty of good ones but that isn't to say that 5 mg of valium in order to calm one's nerves is such a bad thing. For me at any rate, pot will do nothing for my mental agitation.

I appreciate you replying.

I find pretty much the complete opposite. Sativas lift me and enable me to transcend the issues which stress me and meditate upon them, changing my perceptions towards them and therefore their effects on me. Usually from stress to joy. A heavy Indica would likely induce the unproductive introspection you mention, which is why I avoid them when I'm stressed or depressed.

My use of emotive language (dirty) was possibly a little judgemental, but I don't judge you, just pharmaceutical companies. It was more a venting of frustration that the medical industry holds the power which is one of main things preventing cannabis being legal imo.

A final point I want to add. I truly do not experience any withdrawal symptoms from cannabis that I notice. But when I take Diazepam for more than 3 days (this time I have been taking it for 12 consecutive days, 1 every night, plus a couple of odd ones during the day), and I try to stop, I experience very unpleasant somatic effects. Shaking, cold sweats and racing negative thoughts.
 
Hydromorphone and lorazepam is a favorite combo of mine.


Took your always sage advice not 30 minutes ago as I happened to have some of each. Took the lorazapam, waited half an hour and then snorted the hydro. - 4 mg hydromorphone and 1 mg lorazapam is highly entertaining. There are soothing body rushes and a slight floating sensation, a tendancy to smile and a pleasant paradoxical agitation, I want to get up and do something but I want to do it sloooowwwlly and gracefully. The thousand yard stare it easy to slip into but not hard to fight. If only I had enough dry wood I would be in one of my favorite places. Rainy Saturday afternoon before a fire of olive wood, happily doing research and ducking in to visit friends online while my spine thrums and my head floats.

Fascinating how physical it is, quite distinct from the others individualy - and the clarity is quite nice.
 
I've tried alprazolam, diazepam, lorazepam, and phenazepam, and clonazapam, and whatever i've forgetting. My favorite out of those was diazepam. this is because it comes on nice and gentle, and makes me really happy and almost euphoric. Also, it has a good duration.

I never got any effects whatsoever from ativan. Kind of strange since I have a relatively low tolerance to benzos.

today feels like a good benzo day. I think I'm going to take a Valium 10 and see where it goes.
 
WEll I am a convert, and I will have to look again into lorazapam. The time I took it I was on a first date with a woman. I figured it would calm my nerves a bit and she was only a tiny bit late so I had a beer or two in me. I have mixed benzos with alcohol many many many times before - as I have said, take the pill first, then drink never the reverse.

After a drink or two with her I began raving - going on about not wanting to date younger women because they smelled like milk where older women tended to smell like aged cheese. I recall all of this making perfect sense, all of it blending into the conversation, but it clearly was not. I also recall my voice not being modulated properly and seeing folks at other tables looking at me as though I had spoken to them. My date knew I had had only a small amount to drink previous to her arrival and she saw how much I had had and it was in her opinion not nearly enough to have set me off.


I recall knowing that something was very wrong and having a quite sober inner core watching myself commit these small social atrocities, each compounding the previous one, nor did I stop drinking. I am quite, quite sure it was the lorazapam that night. My date went home alone, called me the next day to find out how I was and we never continued after that.

She found a far better person than I and went on her way. I never took lorazapam again save for this morning.
 
Jeez, glad I'm not addicted to these anymore, but you just can't beat a good roofie(rophynol)....
 
I've tried alprazolam, diazepam, lorazepam, and phenazepam. My favorite out of those was diazepam. this is because it comes on nice and gentle, and makes me really happy and almost euphoric. Also, it has a good duration.

I never got any effects whatsoever from ativan. Kind of strange since I have a relatively low tolerance to benzos.

today feels like a good benzo day. I think I'm going to take a Valium 10 and see where it goes.



Today is an excelent benzo day. I am always interested in what happens when I redose benzos. Some start out with that elevator feeling - the dose has to be just right, too little and the "rush" is too short or too gentle, too much and you are forced to sit down, the wind is knocked out of you. I find that the best time to take benzos is in the early morning after a fine 8 hours of sleep with something to do, somewhere to go and a plan. But after the rush goes and that placid state kicks in, I like to put myself in situations where I can enjoy it, like sitting in the middle of a bustling mall or being in the middle of my family as they are fighting or smoking a nice cigar with friends out in the sun.

What happens when I redose? with some I just get more and more tired clonazapam is one of those. But with others, I get a special pristine wall of separation between myself and the rest of the world, my motor functions are reduced but not to the point of absolute sloppiness. Once I break through to this new, exclusive ultra muted place where thecolors are bright but far far away and the emotions are all around me but have no real connection, the food tastes as if it is being chewed by someone else's mouth and the sensations relayed to me by phone. Once I get to that place and if I have enough, I will binge, taking no more than one pill at a time but taking many of them over the course ofthe day. I have been known to eat 20 or more from sun up to sun down, perhaps one an hour and all that hapens is that I am further and furhter removed from the world of emotions and colors and consequences. so long as I take nothing with me that I could possibly lose I am fine. I have lost many fine items, actually hearing some of them slip out of my pocket and hit the ground but careless enough not to even look to see what it was that fell.


But over all, on ocasion, I love that sort of aboslute tranqility
 
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