Beginners fail.. autoflower outdoor

MrToad69

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Hawaii
If you think you're going to get a little more serious with growing down the road it might be worth investing a few extra bucks and getting an LED light with dedicated grow and veg buttons..

Even cheap ones can be had for around $100.

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hawaii8

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@MrToad69 yeah I know you’re right, but I already started that hole DIY method and paid for the veg light already 25$ so I’m gonna by these flower bulbs for the next stage as well, and in fall I’m gonna invest the whole package that would cost me around 250$ with everything packed inside and delivered to my door. But not an option for the next 5 months at least and it’s great start with the DIY method cause I’m learning so much from these mistakes.
 

JoeBlow5823

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@MrToad69 yeah I know you’re right, but I already started that hole DIY method and paid for the veg light already 25$ so I’m gonna by these flower bulbs for the next stage as well, and in fall I’m gonna invest the whole package that would cost me around 250$ with everything packed inside and delivered to my door. But not an option for the next 5 months at least and it’s great start with the DIY method cause I’m learning so much from these mistakes.
Its a whole different ball game growing under big lights. A lot of what your learning now doesnt really transfer to a high power grow.
 

hawaii8

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Btw even DIY is not cheap.. another starter mistake from me. I mean All together it costed me aprox
25$ veg + 25flower fcl
12$ mylar
15$ wardrobe tent
15$ soil
40$ Nutes
20$ cables and electronics
15$ vent..
Damn i mean put it together and I buy a real system from start. That’s life learning from ur shit
 

JoeBlow5823

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Btw even DIY is not cheap.. another starter mistake from me. I mean All together it costed me aprox
25$ veg + 25flower fcl
12$ mylar
15$ wardrobe tent
15$ soil
40$ Nutes
20$ cables and electronics
15$ vent..
Damn i mean put it together and I buy a real system from start. That’s life learning from ur shit
A "real system"? Its $200 alone for the cheapest CMH fixtures with a philips bulb. Expect to pay about a dollar a watt for any decent light. Unless you are getting into HID lighting.
 

hawaii8

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In the end.. I want that shit only for my personal use. 30-40g per plant would be perfect for me.
Thing is, is it possible with all that I have till now?
 

Kilbarrack

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@MrToad69
Soil* is biocanna bioterra plus which is ph’d. Has all the Nutes for the 3 first weeks.
Pot* 11l straight from start.
Sun* It gets 8hours of 27c direct sunlight and 3hours indirect and 6hours at night inside under 100w CFL bulb 6.500k.
Water* sits always 24hours in a bucket before I water (de-Chlore method)

I think I got everything right except that I might over sprayed the seedling the first ten days with a lot of water, aprox 100ml every day :/
All that growth u see in the pics came from the last ten days, I let the pot dry out for 3-4 days and boom it started growing. By now of course it’s a healthy nice plant that’s growing but for an auto mainly too late I would say.
How much grams could I expect from that? Should I toss it away and start from scratch another seed?
I only smoke for personal use.

thanx for the quick reply :)
Its not getting enough light. Dont know where you are, but I can get a 400w hps for €100. She looks good & healthy. You should be feeding her grow nutes. The nutes in the soil will keep her alive & help her grow, but she can handle liquid nutes. Start her on them & she will explode. I suggest starting with 1ml of whatever you're using in a liter of water.
 

hawaii8

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@Kilbarrack hey mate 24th day now and from last week I started given her 1ml/1litre bio Vega. It’s in biocanna bioterra plus soil. This week I’m gonna raise to 2ml and also bought myself bio bizz cal mag. Should I use it in the next days only with water (without feeding bioVega) or together?
answered from the first post I upgraded from 100w cfl to 240w
 

hawaii8

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Here we go the first issue with the new upgrade..
White flies everywhere aaaagggrgrr frustration.
I closed the lights and moved the pot outside to the dark balcony till I find a solution. 5minutes starring at the tend I managed killing 5 or 10 pfff..
Couldn’t risk to live the plant in there.
 

Kilbarrack

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@Kilbarrack hey mate 24th day now and from last week I started given her 1ml/1litre bio Vega. It’s in biocanna bioterra plus soil. This week I’m gonna raise to 2ml and also bought myself bio bizz cal mag. Should I use it in the next days only with water (without feeding bioVega) or together?
answered from the first post I upgraded from 100w cfl to 240w
You can mix cal/mag with any nutes & feed your plant all at the same time. If you can I'd like to see a picture of your grow area.
 

hawaii8

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@Kilbarrack there u go mate, only using the tent for the night schedule 19:00-02:00. And 08:00-19:00 it’s on the balcony along with the hot sun of direct and indirect sunlights depending on the time of the day. I live in Southern Europe, quite hot already.

also I found some whiteflies in my tent couple hours earlier, moved the plant to the clean balcony outside so I can inspect the tent in the morning. Plant is looking good no eggs or signs.
What do u suggest To prevent that happen again
 

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Kilbarrack

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She looks good. But it looks like she is stretching to reach the light? I'd buy some reflectors for your bulbs. Most of the light is being lost. Cfl lights need to be as close as possible to your plant as the light degrades the further away it is. But they get hot, so you have to be careful not to burn her.

You could hang an insect catcher in your tent. You know the sticky things you hang up & insects are attracted to them? Spray her with Neem oil to protect against insects. Its a %100 natural insecticide.
As I said, IF you had the cash, I'd buy a cheap hps. If you do, it will explode into life!!


Hope that helped! If you need any more help, you only have to ask.
 

MrToad69

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Just a tip guys.:.When you're advising others make sure you give warnings!

Neem oil might be natural, but can be a little harsh on your plants if not used correctly...
 

hawaii8

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Plant is now 18cm/7.5in and 26days old.
Haven’t watered for 6 days now :/ Still in veg thank god :P measured the pot with moisture meter and it’s dry till 2inch but under that deep down everywhere moist and in one two spots also a bit wet compared by the moisture meter. Should I water and feed or let it dry a couple of days more?
 

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Kilbarrack

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Plant is now 18cm/7.5in and 26days old.
Haven’t watered for 6 days now :/ Still in veg thank god :P measured the pot with moisture meter and it’s dry till 2inch but under that deep down everywhere moist and in one two spots also a bit wet compared by the moisture meter. Should I water and feed or let it dry a couple of days more?
Yeah I would definitely water her with nutes. For 26 days she should be much bigger. In fact she should of started to show signs of flowering by now. Northern Lights auto are ready in about 56 days.
 

hawaii8

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@Kilbarrack she was stunted for the first 10 days of overwatering.. all that growth came the rest 16days.
Maybe I got some time maybe not..
But still can’t figure out if should or not water and feed her cause the bottom is still moist.
It would be basically the first long wet/dry cycle
 

Kilbarrack

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So if you havent watered in 7 days, I have to ask what are temps like? It sounds like its too cold for her to dry out.
 

hawaii8

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@Kilbarrack temps are 27 daytime and 18-20 night time outside. RH 20-40% aprox the whole day.
I didn’t watered cause I bought last week a moisture meter, one knuckle deep it’s dry but with the moisture meter going till down it showed me that the bottom is moist to wet in some corners. I don’t stick it of course in the middle where the rootball is. So I left it for 6 days getting dry but still moist in the bottom as I said. I’m gonna water a liter slowly in the morning no matter what, it needs also feeding. Again, it was the first wet/dry cycle but in the end the bottom down is still moist after 6 days. Didn’t flushed at all till now, started with 50ml-100ml-200ml-350ml and tomorrow I’m gonna give it 1 little with Nutes. 18cm height, tall but not so leafy due the stunted time in the beginning.
 

Kilbarrack

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Tbh its ok if she is still a little wet at the bottom of the pot. If its dry one knuckle deep & if you lift the pot & it feels really light, then she needs water. But remember, its hard to kill a plant by not feeding her, but too much & she will die quickly.
Can I ask what nutes you are using for veg & flower?
 
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