Bay area clones

I know Ive said this several times but never buy clones from dispensaries, just asking for trouble. Mislabeled cuts, bugs, systemic PM...

I'll stick to seeds.

By the way, I got super lucky and found a single seed in a bag of exquisitely grown ghost og, now I just need saturn and my unicorn strains will be complete.

CK
 
facestabber said:
Harborside should really clean house and fire the weasels at the clone counter. They are all rude, unprofessional, incompetent, devious, and ignorant about the strains they sell. It's just one bad experience after another with these guys, I'm done with them.

oh, and if anyone from DHN is reading this you should know that those little pricks are seriously damaging your reputation.
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I heard from someone recently that their cutting of GSC they got from Harborside was completely bunk.
 
ya im currently runnin some dreamqueen i got from harborside they were good batch but i just went back again recently and got some of DHNs Chem4 and a few other cuttings .. long behold lil spots of PM pop up on the dhn ones.. not the others i got from them that day.. My friend got dna platinum bubba from harborside and had same issue month ago. kinda bummed esp shelling out the extra money for the suppose better quality cuts DHN has now i jus been cutin my own to play it safe !
 
bigbudmicro said:
I heard from someone recently that their cutting of GSC they got from Harborside was completely bunk.
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I harvested GSC SCM Cut clones from HB and they came out fantastic. Very vigorous, pest and mold resistent and descent yields. None of the GSC were touched by budworms. I tried to keep them small. They ended up about 4 1/2' tall and about 4' wide- yielded 13oz per plant. Everyone that has sampled it loves the high. It's not the most potent of my strains grown but its got a very enjoyable high. These were some of the very first GSC clones they got.
 
I picked up a strawberry cough at harborside recently. Guy working there was well informed and told me it was the kushman cut. Hope so, I've been looking for it and have been misled by other collectives.
 
facestabber said:
It's most likely fake.
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Possibly, but not necessarily. There are ~7 strains out there called "strawberry cough". Most really suck, Kushman's is the only good one. However when I was a vendor there they used to get kushman's cough in bud form on a regular basis. So they might have the real one. I have it :)
 
Dan Kone said:
Possibly, but not necessarily. There are ~7 strains out there called "strawberry cough". Most really suck, Kushman's is the only good one. However when I was a vendor there they used to get kushman's cough in bud form on a regular basis. So they might have the real one. I have it :)
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I'm just guessing it's fake because he bought it from harborside AND it was recommended by one of the clowns that works there. Last time I bought clones recommended by the staff they were fake. The employee said " you should give this chem91 a shot bro, my friend makes these cuts and they are the real chem 91!"........

Ended up being some ultra low yielding fruity smelling regs......Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice.....uh.....we won't be fooled again!
 
DHN SFV OG UPDATE: So out of 20 sfv clones I purchased from DHN I have only 8 decent plants that resemble og kush, 6 plants that are something else totally different than og, and 6 plants that look like sfv but are suffering from symptoms of broad mite toxin. Haven't found any broad mites but the plants in question are total duds. No frost, no shine, no smell.

I wouldn't recommend DHN clones to my worst enemy. Stay far far away from their dirty gear!
 
facestabber said:
DHN SFV OG UPDATE: So out of 20 sfv clones I purchased from DHN I have only 8 decent plants that resemble og kush, 6 plants that are something else totally different than og, and 6 plants that look like sfv but are suffering from symptoms of broad mite toxin. Haven't found any broad mites but the plants in question are total duds. No frost, no shine, no smell.

I wouldn't recommend DHN clones to my worst enemy. Stay far far away from their dirty gear!
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I personally never had a problem with their gear; it seems like you were a victim of a distributor.
 
chuewy said:
I personally never had a problem with their gear; it seems like you were a victim of a distributor.
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It's very possible that Harborside is responsible for the mislabeled ones but the PM and "dudded" plants are all DHN. Also, DHN labels their clones as if they are the clone only real deal cuts when in fact most of their strains were started in-house from seed packs.
 
facestabber said:
It's very possible that Harborside is responsible for the mislabeled ones but the PM and "dudded" plants are all DHN. Also, DHN labels their clones as if they are the clone only real deal cuts when in fact most of their strains were started in-house from seed packs.
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So what you're saying is that there is absolutely no way that DHN clones could have contracted pm from other clones selling at harborside? Did you get the fresh batch (when the clones arrives) or did those clones came in beforehand?

As for the clone only remark, I'm not sure what more they can do. They're using the same exact name from the seed pack they used to pop those beans. If you consider that misleading, how do you feel about trainwreck, northern light, blueberry clones?

The "stunted" problem usually comes down to skill. But those could very will be mislabel cuts or even dhn cuts, but who knows? Mutants anyone? Personally, I never tried the entire DHN line; but from my own experience, the clones I've tried are exactly what it suppose to be. So I have no qualms about those cuts, and I'm perfectly fine with them when I need them.
 
chuewy said:
So what you're saying is that there is absolutely no way that DHN clones could have contracted pm from other clones selling at harborside? Did you get the fresh batch (when the clones arrives) or did those clones came in beforehand?

As for the clone only remark, I'm not sure what more they can do. They're using the same exact name from the seed pack they used to pop those beans. If you consider that misleading, how do you feel about trainwreck, northern light, blueberry clones?

The "stunted" problem usually comes down to skill. But those could very will be mislabel cuts or even dhn cuts, but who knows? Mutants anyone? Personally, I never tried the entire DHN line; but from my own experience, the clones I've tried are exactly what it suppose to be. So I have no qualms about those cuts, and I'm perfectly fine with them when I need them.
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I'm happy for you that you've had better luck with DHN gear than me Chuey, your experience with DHN isn't the norm though.. As far as PM goes, no it's not possible that it came from harborside because the plants showed visible sings of PM within 24 hours of bringing them home and I was there waiting when DHN dropped them off. To make matters worse, their in-house strain of PM is Eagle 20 resistant.

I will agree with you that stunted plants can be caused by the mistakes of an inexperienced grower but I can assure you that is not the case here. The dud plants will grow fine with no sign of problems until week 2 or 3 of flower they take on a stunted appearance when compared to a normal plant and never put on many trichs or much smell.

These are classic symptoms of broad mite poisoning and OG kush is very sensitive to the broad mites toxin. I'm also confident that the dud plants are from DHN and not mixed in by accident because they are obviously the same as the other SFV-BX clones only stunted. Broad mite toxins will linger for some time even after the mites are eliminated.
 
Let me also address the "clone only" subject at hand. If DHN wants to find their own phenos from seed packs that is just fine and I'm sure they even find some nice plants that way.
The problem is when they LABEL their clones with the names of clone only's. For example, their SFV and FIRE are both sourced from Cali Connections Seeds. Swerve used "afghani pollen in his initial cross to create his SFVBX males that he uses as the studs for his seeds.The resulting offspring are not pure OG and certainly not SFV or FIRE. Furthermore, cali conns fire cross is labeled "Raskal's OG". It was DHN who decided to mislabel it as Fire OG.

Loompasfarms website explains it very clearly so I'll copy and paste for you.

"Notice how everyone has Sour Diesel these days? Breeders in today’s world got a hold of the original Clone-only plant. The breeders either forced her to go hermaphrodite and self pollinate or used another species male to pollinate her. From these beginnings came all the Sour Diesel seeds that are sold. The resulting offspring are a combination of two strains, the definition of a hybrid.


When utilizing the self-pollinating technique, called "selfing", the mother is the father. Since Sour Diesel is the result of an unintended pollination from a different strain, it’s already a hybrid and the resulting offspring will be hybrids.


If a breeder takes these seeds and starts "line-breeding" them, after a few generations of breeding, you can make a true-breeding strain. Then it’s no longer a hybrid.

So, now someone has made a strain called Sour Diesel. The question here is whether the resulting progeny resemble the authentic clone-only Sour Diesel. Depending on the goals of the breeder, there may be many similarities but they ARE NOT the same strain. The particular strain created will NEVER be the Sour Diesel Mother plant. That’s why elite clone-only plants are so highly prized. The only real Sour Diesel must be cloned to preserve its genetics. If a grower or shop doesn’t disclose the product that you're smoking is the clone-only cut, then it probably is not. "
 
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