Barney's Farm - Tangerine Dream - Waterfarm!

Love that last set of pics. Question: What modifications have you made to your waterfarm? I remember you saying that you drilled more holes, but have done anything else? I've read about people installing air-stones in the reservoir, but I'm not sure if that's required if you're using an air pump (with the drip ring) that's stronger than the one included in the basic kit. Thoughts?
 
kriznarf said:
Love that last set of pics. Question: What modifications have you made to your waterfarm? I remember you saying that you drilled more holes, but have done anything else? I've read about people installing air-stones in the reservoir, but I'm not sure if that's required if you're using an air pump (with the drip ring) that's stronger than the one included in the basic kit. Thoughts?
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Hey kriz - I didn't make any modifications to the waterfarm other than the extra holes in the bottom of the top-bucket and upgrading the air-pump as mentioned. I bought a pump that's rated for up to a 30 gallon tank and it seems to have enough pressure to keep 'er bubbling enough, even with all the roots filling the rez. I asked Scotty that same question back before I started, and he too said an airstone wasn't necessary as long as the main pump is larger. Maybe when I'm set up to start the next round with the 2 waterfarms, i'll try getting a pump that's one step larger, and split the air to 2 lines for an airstone in the rez for just 1 of the 2 setups, and keep the other one the same as this one - that would be a good comparison other than the fact that they'll be 2 different strains... :leaf:
 
Looking awesome man. I am doing a Tangerine Scrog as well. Shit is stretchy as hell. I'm currently running into a problem when my bud tips a few of the colas are stretching. Kinda strange.

Happy Growing man, they start smelling like oranges yet? I love the smell :)
 
Dayzt said:
Hey kriz - I didn't make any modifications to the waterfarm other than the extra holes in the bottom of the top-bucket and upgrading the air-pump as mentioned. I bought a pump that's rated for up to a 30 gallon tank and it seems to have enough pressure to keep 'er bubbling enough, even with all the roots filling the rez. I asked Scotty that same question back before I started, and he too said an airstone wasn't necessary as long as the main pump is larger. Maybe when I'm set up to start the next round with the 2 waterfarms, i'll try getting a pump that's one step larger, and split the air to 2 lines for an airstone in the rez for just 1 of the 2 setups, and keep the other one the same as this one - that would be a good comparison other than the fact that they'll be 2 different strains... :leaf:
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Thanks man. Quick follow up, do you know what the L/min or cc/min that your air pump is? I'd like to get a pump of similar strength. Most of the retailers I go through don't carry air-pods. Oh, and I assume you keep your pump turned up to max strength if there is a dial, right?
 
Sorry, I've been following this thread with great interest but lost where we have got to, having got a few pages behind in my reading. How many days into flower are you now? Plant looks amazing. It's mind boggling that one plant has taken up so much room! Good work.
 
Quick question about the waterfarm, do you have to change the water in the res? How do you add water to it? I need to cover all the basis before I get mine started. Yours is looking seriously amazing.
 
CTtokin said:
Looking awesome man. I am doing a Tangerine Scrog as well. Shit is stretchy as hell. I'm currently running into a problem when my bud tips a few of the colas are stretching. Kinda strange.

Happy Growing man, they start smelling like oranges yet? I love the smell :)
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Hey CT - yeah I understand what you're saying about the stretchy buds - the sativa dominance is quite high in this strain. I can smell the citrusy, tangy aroma a bit, but even more so of course from touching the leaves and stems lightly. If you have any pics, feel free to post em here! =) :leaf:

kriznarf said:
Thanks man. Quick follow up, do you know what the L/min or cc/min that your air pump is? I'd like to get a pump of similar strength. Most of the retailers I go through don't carry air-pods. Oh, and I assume you keep your pump turned up to max strength if there is a dial, right?
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I'm not sure what those amounts are on my pump, but it wasn't very expensive so I'm sure any pump that's rated for a 30 gallon tank would be just as good. And yes, this one has a dial on it that I have turne d up to the max at all times. The only time I shut the pump off is when I drain the rez to change it out.

zamzia said:
Sorry, I've been following this thread with great interest but lost where we have got to, having got a few pages behind in my reading. How many days into flower are you now? Plant looks amazing. It's mind boggling that one plant has taken up so much room! Good work.
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Hey zamzia - thanks!!! It's just starting week 6 of flowering now. I expect this girl to go at least 10 weeks, but we'll see how things are looking by the end of July...

mr2shim said:
Quick question about the waterfarm, do you have to change the water in the res? How do you add water to it? I need to cover all the basis before I get mine started. Yours is looking seriously amazing.
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Yo mr2shim - I change the rez out once a week by draining completely what's in it and refilling with fresh solution. Each day it drinks about 1 gallon of water, and I just keep making more 'top-up' solution fresh as I need it througout the week to keep it topped up. The waterfarm works best when the water-level is at the top, as when it gets lower the pump has to work harder and harder to pump the water through to the top. To add water, I use a shallow plastic container (large ziplock tub) and mix my solution in a bucket first, then pour into the shallow tub and pour that in through the top of the waterfarm straight through the hydroton.
 
I just had to post an update this evening...

No pics, just wanted to comment on how nicely the trees are starting to fill out now... there are a few tops that are especially 'ahead of the pack' and stand out among the rest. Some are starting to really 'bow' outwards and I can already tell that I'm going to have to start tieing some tops to help keep them from falling over. I'm exited to see how much I can actually get under this 400w, and am now REALLY curious to know what kind of yield can be pulled under my 2 600w cooltube HPS lights... something tells me we're going to have a ton of VK again this Christmas and will also still have plenty of TD as well... yay! :leaf:

- The white hairs continue to look super-long, and the buds beneath them are starting to thicken more and are evening out nicely down many of the stems.
- My nutes a bit strong right now and the leafs tips are showing very slight burn - but overall eveything is still looking very healthy.
- I've dialed back my nute strength by about 300 ppm in order to ensure the slight burn stops, and have added some AN 'Nirvana' to my nute water, as well as some Bud Blaster.
- pH is rock-solid and hasn't left the 5.5-5.9 range for a long time.
 
Grow looks amazing. I have a TD clone I made a mother and have one clone from her that just rooted. My mother is only about 20 days old. Bushing out nicely. I have a rare indica "dom"(she still a sativa dom strain) TD. It was the only one out of a 5 pack that has indica traits. I have always grown in soil but I'm doing my TD clone in a 5 gallon DWC bucket to try my hand at hydro and also doing a scrog on her. My first scrog, your thread inspired this so +rep to you. First saw this in the TD fan club thread.

Your looking at huge harvest and will be watching this thread.

Keep up the green work!
 
crosscountrykush said:
Grow looks amazing. I have a TD clone I made a mother and have one clone from her that just rooted. My mother is only about 20 days old. Bushing out nicely. I have a rare indica "dom"(she still a sativa dom strain) TD. It was the only one out of a 5 pack that has indica traits. I have always grown in soil but I'm doing my TD clone in a 5 gallon DWC bucket to try my hand at hydro and also doing a scrog on her. My first scrog, your thread inspired this so +rep to you. First saw this in the TD fan club thread.

Your looking at huge harvest and will be watching this thread.

Keep up the green work!
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Yo cckush - great to hear that you were 'inspired' by this scrog! Try not to pick up any of my bad habits (lol) - I was a bit lazy with my screen building although it seems to have worked quite well. This plant is so stretchy that I didn't bother thinning out as much in the lower canopy since almost all of my buds are well above that level and are getting sufficient light and airflow the way it is. It's funny because I thought the same thing about my plant when it was smaller - thought for sure it was indica dom, then boom it flourished into a very sativa-like plant once into flowering... good luck, and i hope you get a 'stouter' indica result!

With this plant under the screen, I can't stress enough how the early LST training is beneficial long-term. It seems as though I would have far run out of head-room with this girl if she wasn't tied down for most of the veg period and then a bit into flowering even, to hold it back some and force it out to the edges of the screen...

Thanks for the encouraging words! I wish you all the best in your TD scrog - post some pics of her here if you like! :leaf:
 
lordjin said:
Looking very impressive! I'm interested in playing around with a screen now.
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Heya LJ - thanks for the props and the rep! The screen is a first for me too - but I've really learned from this grow so far, that it allows you to make the most out of the space you grow in, and smaller spaces will actually help you realize the fullest potential of the plant when it's forced to grow 'out' to the extremities of the grow area through the holes you guide them through in the screen... (how's that for a run-along sentence!..lol). With the early LST before using the screen, it was quite easy to fill it out once it really took off.

SHONOFF98 said:
This plant is the only reason I need to do a scrog myself!
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Great to hear man! Giv'er! It definitely allows you to get the most out of a single plant. :leaf:
 
ZenOne said:
how many weeks you think you have left on her dayzt?
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Being my very first hydro-type grow, I can only guess - but I'd say there's at least 4 more weeks left, possibly 5-6. With it being this size, there's tops at various stages right now - so it will likely be a 'gradual' harvest, taking down just parts of it at a time in order to give the different tops more time to finish than others... It will definitely be a 'Tangerine Summer' at our house, come August. :leaf: Everyone is invited!!! :leaf:
 
Hey guys, just to chime in with my two cents... I use the bigger brother of the waterfarm, the Power Grower. Works exactly the same but has 2 gallon reservoir which has saved my bacon a few times when I have very thirsty plants. Recently, I've changed to the dual outlet air pumps and running an air stone in the bottom of the bucket. Plants and root development very much improved. Very much worth the additional cost. And I'm getting SCROG fever following this thread.. Tony
 
damn dayzt your killing it!! I always thought about just doing one big ass plant, im subbed up for the final ride! +REP
 
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