Bad cigar day

canndo

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I smoke cigars (they contain nicotine and nicotine is a mind and mood altering substance - so this thread belongs here).

cigars are almost, if not totally hand made, in fact it can take over 100 pairs of hands to finally wind up with a cigar from planting the seed to priming the plant to drying the leaves to fermenting the leaves to sorting the wrappers to bunching the contents to wrapping the bunch to sorting the cigars to aging them and to packing them.

fine.

There is something comforting about having something that is completely hand made, in fact most can't point to anything in their homes let alone their pockets that is still made completely by hand but that same luxury leads to...

Bad cigar days.


I have a rule, if I start up a cigar and don't find it enjoyable within the first inch I will either not smoke, or, more likely, I will find and light up another. there are a host of things that can go wrong with a cigar - it being hand made and all. It can have a tight draw - a horrible thing. It can tunnel - where the burning part will go through the center of the cigar like a cone - it causes no end of frustration and it makes the smoke taste bitter or burned (yes, burned). the cigar can be too dry, so that the smoke is hot and leaves an acrid flavor on the tongue. The cigar can be too moist so that the smoke has a muted flavor or is weak or thin. The cigar can simply fall apart or burst upon lighting it - this happens most often in temperature extremes.

the cigar can simply not give off enough smoke, it could be a badly blended cigar which is about the only way it can get beyond the inspectors - a bad bit of leaf can ruin the flavor of a cigar from start to finish. The cigar can burn sideways and require constant touch ups in order for it not to turn into a smoking little canoe. Beyond even this, those who insist upon having a variety of cigars and also insist upon seasoning, or aging their cigars will often try a cigar who's blend or profile is new to them, or they may be sampling a cigar that has been put down in order to see if the length of time it has been set aside is enough to enhance the flavor, or not. Some will purchase a few boxes of promising cigars and fish a cigar out of the primary box at a rate of one a year in an attempt to find the right aging sweet spot.


so some of the problems are with the cigar itself, some are with the practice of aging, some are a result of lack of care, and some are simply luck of the draw (forgive the multiple puns there).

A bad cigar day is one where that first cigar, after having been planned or pondered (how long do I intend to smoke? what did I eat? what am I drinking? What do I want to try that I have not?) is a failure. It tunnels and after fiddling with it, snipping it above the tunnel - which rarely works, the smoker finally abandons it and goes through the process of re-selecting. Fine, If it was a storage problem, the smoker anticipates this, checks his humidity and goes to another humidor. Now, 29 times out of 30, everything is as it should have been, but what if THAT cigar has a problem? Another inch of attempt and THAT cigar is allowed to go out while the smoker, now a bit frustrated, goes through his recollection of his collection and opts for a third selection and a third attempt. If THAT cigar is also for any reason a bad one, then the smoker is in the midst of a bad cigar day.

Some will give up, having in actuality thrown away perhaps years of aging, perhaps a very rare cigar or two, perhaps ten, twenty, thirty or more dollars. I smoke one or two cigars a day. I encounter bad cigar days about once every other month. I usually simply give up at cigar three, which is what I did two nights ago. Yesterday I encountered four that were impossible for one reason or another before again, I surrendered to the decree by the tobacco Gods that Canndo will again not be enjoying a fine old stick. That was yesterday, or day two. After lunch today I pulled out a standby - a mild firplug of a cigar that I am running seriously low on and will never find again - but at least I know they are dependable. Imagine my sadness when that cigar simply burned up one side and there was nothing I could do to save it's sorry carcass. Alas, it was the start of bad cigar day number three, it was the loss of a stick that is impossible at any price to replace. And on I went to cigar two of bad cigar day three. Another known and aged parejo puro (straight sided cigar that is made from tobaccos all originating from a single nation or even a single plantation).

This one yielded virtually no smoke and has just now been placed next to the others in a white ash tray like poor, too young soldiers soon to be laid to eternal rest (in my worm composter of course).

To anyone who is bored with this meaningless story, at least you got to this point. To those who have been brought to tears, thank you for sharing my grief. I am about to fire up, as carefully as possible, A La Corona Anvers 1845 Churchill that according to my notation is young at 3 years old. If it fails as well, I will have been involved in a personal record of three consecutive days of bad cigars.

I believe I am at the point now where I am perfectly willing to burn, in turn, each and EVERY cigar I own (and a careful search of this site might give the researcher an idea of the extent of my collection), until I get one that works.

I figure that certain sources of pleasure have a reverse, multiplicative effect. This is well known to all of us who inhabit the HS segment of RIU. A lot of pleasure can be derived from a certain substance, but that same substance - or the Absence of that substance can cause more frustration and pain than it ever managed to supply in pleasure. As intensely relaxing and enjoyable as a good cigar is, a bad cigar, or a precession of them can cause frustration that negates days or even WEEKS of the previously mentioned enjoyment.

I fully expect my cutter to tear this thing, I fully expect my torch ligher to quit, my optomism about my life and the world in general is taking a serious hit but.... here goes....
 

MrEDuck

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I hope this one smokes as intended. That's quite a run of bad luck mate, I hope it turns around.
 

Mr ADHD

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Whats your favorite stick? I had a few real Cuban Cohiba's while I was on vacation in Aruba, but my favorite has got to be the Blondie by Drew estates.
Hope your bad luck turns around man!
 

canndo

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The one I just had ran short - some cigars don't tend to smoke to the end and turn sour or bitter at the half way point, or the 3/4 point. This is what happened to this cigar and it is not how it usually smokes. Still, it was better than the run I have had. I really don't have a favorite, but a few depending on my intent, environment, meal, drink, or buzz. I think that the San Cristobal's are way up there. I rarely get single sticks but I was at a craps table in Vegas and found myself out of smokes. I ran over to the gift store, a place I don't usually go for smokes as they don't often take care of them very well. Anyway I got this torpedo and fired it up at the table. I was in the midst of a decent run and paid some attention to the cigar - it was NASTY, a rough, sandy sort of flavor and I thought "oh well, I suppose I'll just put this one out", but set it aside as I threw the dice. I got back to it and after a few more puffs it became a wonderful smoke. Long about an eighth of the way in I called down my bets, collected my chips and sat in the bar simply so I could devote all my attention to this now marvelous torpedo. they are still my favorites.

Another is the Padron 1926. Rich, darkly smooth and pleasantly aromatic. I think they cost $400 for a box of 10. I don't mind paying a little extra for good smokes although I usually simply pay less and age them but I simply can't afford to have 40 dollar cigars that I am addicted to in my humidores - I will feel good about them and perhaps smoke them one a day until about number 5 or so, then I get covetous and neurotic about them "should I have one now? no, this isn't enough of an occasion" How about on my birthday? no, I don't have enough to give to all of my smoking friends - like that.
 

socaljoe

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I hate when that happens. Cigars are my only vice, aside from the occasional nip of bourbon, scotch or rum, so a bad cigar day is especially deflating. And it never fails, when I'm really anticipating a cigar, like my one-a-year Oliva Serie V maduro 2008, it will tunnel out on me...that's my number one most hated flaw.

Hope you have better luck.
 

Impman

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I have smoked cigars maybe a dozen times in my life. I never knew they could be bad LOL ....I smoked a 20 $ cigar once and it seemed fine ...too me, a cigar goes bad when the paper is so fucking dry it crumbles....I was ignorant to the world of cigar smoking until I read this thread! That sucks about the bad cigar days! I could not imagine having three bad pot days in a row! I would start throwing a fit.
 

rory420420

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Canndo,you'll smack me prob if I ever meet you,but I split a cohiba(I know thats a common name drop for no smokers) but I did roll up a half oz. Of the stinky,in an 80$ cigar...my macanudos are fine for me,maybe on new years..I do appreciate your insight and knowledge on this subject!! :-)
 

LIBERTYCHICKEN

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HEY Canndo ever thought abought growing prosseing your own tobbaco products ??

Sure their are complicated parts (cureing fermenting) but the process of doing it yourself is very rewarding one , that will leave you with new perspectives about your cherished vice
 

MrEDuck

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Canndo,you'll smack me prob if I ever meet you,but I split a cohiba(I know thats a common name drop for no smokers) but I did roll up a half oz. Of the stinky,in an 80$ cigar...my macanudos are fine for me,maybe on new years..I do appreciate your insight and knowledge on this subject!! :-)
I wanna smack you for paying $80 for a Cohiba :) I actually preferred the Dominican knock offs that had to get taken off the market like ten years ago. I've yet to have a Cuban cigar that didn't leave me thinking about how I could have had 3-5 equal or better sticks for the same money.
 

canndo

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HEY Canndo ever thought abought growing prosseing your own tobbaco products ??

Sure their are complicated parts (cureing fermenting) but the process of doing it yourself is very rewarding one , that will leave you with new perspectives about your cherished vice
I've read blogs of folks who have done so with varying degrees of sucess. I have taken on many exotic projects, that one seems just too daunting.
 

canndo

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I wanna smack you for paying $80 for a Cohiba :) I actually preferred the Dominican knock offs that had to get taken off the market like ten years ago. I've yet to have a Cuban cigar that didn't leave me thinking about how I could have had 3-5 equal or better sticks for the same money.

blender, tobacco, origin, roller, inspection, storage, in that order. I have yet to speak to a novice who doesn't mention Cuba. The best blenders. Padron, Reyes, llaneza, all fled Cuba before the revolution to secondary tobacco growing countries. They took decades to train the growers and then learn how to blend these new tobaccos. The finest tobacco in Cuba is still the best in the world but I will put fuente, Fernandez, padron. Llaneza, and a group of others who's names escape me now against
any blender in Cuba. The consequnces are that 99 percent of the super premiums made in any of the tobacco regions of the world are as good or better than any but a tiny percentage of the best Cuba has to offer.

a shame, a real shame is that the old world artisans are passing away before they ever got a chance to use the new tobaccos AND blend them with the best Cuban leaves, I cannot imagine how wonderful those cigars might have become.
 

canndo

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Anything aged as far as hand crafted item has me interested.
cigars allow the average person to invest in age, and, as we grow old, to harness that thing that happens, that the years seem to pass faster and faster. I can out a box down and seemingly in a month, three years have passed. Cigars show fine age qualities in as little as 6 months, can get even better at a year or two or three, then the ones that continue to improve grow more and more rare.
 

rory420420

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Haha duck..I didn't know,I was 18..still a novice when it comes to stogies..probably allways will be..I like the smell burning sigars have,but don't like to smoke em..
Canndo..15 south of my home starts the 'tobacco belt'..feilds of tobacco miles wide!! I've allways wanted to get a huge leaf and roll up a nice blunt,but,I think there is a law about having the leaf without a permit..idk..I doubt its quality tobacco,most likely for rj reynolds and his buddy phillip morris...
 

canndo

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I hate when that happens. Cigars are my only vice, aside from the occasional nip of bourbon, scotch or rum, so a bad cigar day is especially deflating. And it never fails, when I'm really anticipating a cigar, like my one-a-year Oliva Serie V maduro 2008, it will tunnel out on me...that's my number one most hated flaw.

Hope you have better luck.

Oliva v !! mine are precious love that rich smooth smoke but only after a big prime rib dinner for me
 

Hepheastus420

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my dad let me hit a cigar when I was 13.. coughed alot and got laughed at by his friends lol.. I never thought much of them. But reading the first post, man, you've got a passion for cigars and I really hope you get a streak of fine smoking cigars.

Now I wanna try a few cigars, any suggestions on where to start?
 
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