B.C. to ban the sale of pot in liquor stores, allow landlords to ban home-grown grass

Lightgreen2k

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....it will be about insurance ....c'man....you guys....fact of the matter is people are dicks....if it doesn't belong to them, it doesn't affect them in the long term....now the guy that opens the apt building that is cannabis friendly...well there's a money maker...imagine a communal growing room, smoking room, kitchen, and a little garden outside in the summer months....omg....paradise...and still have your own suite....
"Communal growing room".. share pest that other growers bring in / share plant disease no thanks.
 
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itsmehigh

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Except the right of landlords to ban growing. Unless it applies to ALL plants, it is unconstitutional. Can a landlord forbid a tenant from growing African Violets?
Firstly, we live in Canada and have our "Charter of Rights and Freedoms", US has a constitution.
Second, the "Charter" only pertains to the government, Canadian citizens are not held to account. A land lord can set his own rules, no smoking, no pets, no prostitution etc. As with businesses, no shoes, no shirt, no service.

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VIANARCHRIS

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Firstly, we live in Canada and have our "Charter of Rights and Freedoms", US has a constitution.
Second, the "Charter" only pertains to the government, Canadian citizens are not held to account. A land lord can set his own rules, no smoking, no pets, no prostitution etc. As with businesses, no shoes, no shirt, no service.

Itsme.
Huh? Canada also has a constitution - hence every time we've fought government over mmj it's been called a 'constitutional challenge'. http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/just/05.html
The Charter pertains to EVERYBODY. A landlord CANNOT discriminate against you for your race, religion, disability, sex, etc,etc. They can make rules, but those rules must not violate the charter. The question is, does banning a single species of plant while allowing all others, constitute discriminatory behaviour. That's what we have courts for.
 

Uncle Reefer

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Huh? Canada also has a constitution - hence every time we've fought government over mmj it's been called a 'constitutional challenge'. http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/just/05.html
The Charter pertains to EVERYBODY. A landlord CANNOT discriminate against you for your race, religion, disability, sex, etc,etc. They can make rules, but those rules must not violate the charter. The question is, does banning a single species of plant while allowing all others, constitute discriminatory behaviour. That's what we have courts for.
But what about a poorly built grow room that destroys the house? You feel you have the right to do this?
 

VIANARCHRIS

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But what about a poorly built grow room that destroys the house? You feel you have the right to do this?
Did I say that? You are only permitted to grow 4 plants, I'm sure most people can grow a plant without destroying a house. GB does it with his African Violets. We're not talking about setting up a huge medical or black market grow. Respect your home and the landlords investment and there are no issues. If I can have a potted palm tree in my livingroom, I can have a cannabis sativa.
 

Uncle Reefer

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Did I say that? You are only permitted to grow 4 plants, I'm sure most people can grow a plant without destroying a house. GB does it with his African Violets. We're not talking about setting up a huge medical or black market grow. Respect your home and the landlords investment and there are no issues. If I can have a potted palm tree in my livingroom, I can have a cannabis sativa.
...and by you I don't mean you in the personal more the general you or in french Vous
 

itsmehigh

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Huh? Canada also has a constitution - hence every time we've fought government over mmj it's been called a 'constitutional challenge'. http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/just/05.html
The Charter pertains to EVERYBODY. A landlord CANNOT discriminate against you for your race, religion, disability, sex, etc,etc. They can make rules, but those rules must not violate the charter. The question is, does banning a single species of plant while allowing all others, constitute discriminatory behaviour. That's what we have courts for.
I'm no lawyer, but they were "charter" challenges not "constitutional".

No different than a land lord not allowing smoking, it's his right. He is the master of his domain. A human rights case would need to be filed, nothing to do with charter. As a land lord if I don't like a person for what ever reason I can deny them with no retribution. It's my "constitutional" right. My rights on my property trump your rights, as it should be.

Itsme.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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I'm no lawyer, but they were "charter" challenges not "constitutional".

No different than a land lord not allowing smoking, it's his right. He is the master of his domain. A human rights case would need to be filed, nothing to do with charter. As a land lord if I don't like a person for what ever reason I can deny them with no retribution. It's my "constitutional" right. My rights on my property trump your rights, as it should be.

Itsme.
Everyone else seems to think they were constitutional challenges, but call it what you want.
http://thcbiomed.com/constitutional-challenge-of-canadas-medical-marijuana-laws-begins-in-vancouver/

An Ottawa lawyer is launching a constitutional challenge to Canada’s medical marijuana laws as part of his defence of a pot shop clerk charged with drug trafficking.

Are Constitutional Challenges the Future of Canadian Cannabis Litigation?

There is a difference between smoking and growing a plant. Plants can be grown without causing damage whereas smoking indoors WILL cause damage. My argument was whether they can allow me to grow 4 plants of another variety, but ban cannabis.
As a landlord you can deny anybody for any reason - so long as it isn't discriminatory. You can't deny someone because they are black or green, you'll get your ass sued. That wasn't the argument though. My point is whether growing a cannabis plant is a greater risk of causing damage to a rented suite than an African Violet, and if not, whether a landlord can arbitrarily pick and choose species of plants.
 
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