Autoflower Thread & Resource Guide

Melizzard

Member
alrite guys here are the photos of my freaking midget auto hindu kush's the biggest one is only 12cms tall "keep in mind they are all 6 weeks old !
OK, this is so weird. I've been suspecting that perhaps my seeds weren't all the same Hindu Kush strain because I have three girls right now ... and one is distinctly different than the other two leggy bitches. I have two that I've actually had to LST to keep them inside my PC grow case and they're only 5 weeks old already. The other one is 7 weeks old and is going to be one big bud while the other two have bud scattered all over the place. So I have no clue what I have. I have a grower friend coming over today and I'm going to get his way-more-experienced opinion. :)
xxoo
Melizzard
 

KolorBlind

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smallclosetgrowr - Hey man, a few things for ya. First off, and its no big deal just a request on my part....When you post please try to think of everything, or else just go back and edit the post to add instead of posting multiple times. It just gets to be a real pain to read through when 1 person posts too many times per page, and the thread gets longer than it needs to. like I said its not a huge deal, but just remember you can go back and edit you old posts if you remember something that same day instead of creating a new one each time. It takes me a day or so sometimes to get back, sometimes its right away.

That being said, I still dont know wtf is up with your little micro plants man. They are how old now?? They definitely seem a bit small at this point. And buds starting to form or still just a few white hairs per node? The pH might have something to do with it but Im not a hydro guy so I cant say for sure. Im sure youre still keeping temps in check right?

Also, the picture you linked of the 2 small AFs was my picture. That was my 2 pollinated Diesel Ryders from the first page of this thread. Since they were pollinated they only yielded about 6-7g dry bud each. They also produced 472 usable seeds between the 2 of them, and many immmature ones. Considering the short one was 5.5 inches and the taller one was 6 inches, Id say thats pretty darn good haha!!



Of and I thought I posted this earlier but I must have not clicked post or something but......

This thread now has over 2,000 replies and over 100,000 views!!! Were on our way to becoming one of the most viewed threads on the site!!

Thanks to everyone for your contributions and help, I feel we are really doing something to help a lot of people get into AF strains. The more we get people into AF strains, the more demand there will be for them. The more demand for the strains, the more research there will be to make them bigger, better, and more potent!! So my hat is off to all of you for sticking this out and sharing all your experiences, pictures and knowledge. Lets keep this thread hoppin till they give us our own subforum hehe!! kiss-asskiss-asskiss-ass


Peace
KB
 

smallclosetgrowr

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well my temps are kinda high and i can see the leaves looking all funny and curling upwards , is this heat stress ? its at 85 F most of the day but it gets to 95 F for about 4 hours a day..and do u think this would be enuff to stunt growth that much
 

KolorBlind

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well my temps are kinda high and i can see the leaves looking all funny and curling upwards , is this heat stress ? its at 85 F most of the day but it gets to 95 F for about 4 hours a day..and do u think this would be enuff to stunt growth that much
Id say that is probably your main issue. I wouldnt say that its the only thing stunting them, but it could be. After 85F the plants arent able to take in C02 like they should, and at 95F they are pretty much just fighting to stay alive and usually not growing at all.

Do you have sufficient exhaust? So I dont have to scroll back a few pages, remind me what lights you are using and what kind of exhaust setup if any that you have. You need to find a way to get some cooler air to those babies throughout the day or they may take a while to finish. 95f is just way too high without a C02 setup, even 85f is about as high as you ever want it in there.

My cab gets to about 63F at night, and 84F at the highest for maybe 2 hours before lights out. The avg temps are 79-80F which is about perfect. The prime temperature for photosynthesis to occur is 76-78F, anything over that and your plants aren't taking in as much C02 as they could outdoors.

Work on those temps first and foremost, and see if it helps at all, but dont be surprised if they dont bounce back real fast as they may be stunted for a while.

KB
 

smallclosetgrowr

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Id say that is probably your main issue. I wouldnt say that its the only thing stunting them, but it could be. After 85F the plants arent able to take in C02 like they should, and at 95F they are pretty much just fighting to stay alive and usually not growing at all.

Do you have sufficient exhaust? So I dont have to scroll back a few pages, remind me what lights you are using and what kind of exhaust setup if any that you have. You need to find a way to get some cooler air to those babies throughout the day or they may take a while to finish. 95f is just way too high without a C02 setup, even 85f is about as high as you ever want it in there.

My cab gets to about 63F at night, and 84F at the highest for maybe 2 hours before lights out. The avg temps are 79-80F which is about perfect. The prime temperature for photosynthesis to occur is 76-78F, anything over that and your plants aren't taking in as much C02 as they could outdoors.

Work on those temps first and foremost, and see if it helps at all, but dont be surprised if they dont bounce back real fast as they may be stunted for a while.

KB
thanks for your help mate , i have a 250 watt hps and its summer time here .. ive switched back to the old cfls i have and that is 2x65watt +1x11 watt all 6500k do u think this is suffiecent light for 4 plants about 3 inches tall ? the girls are in a small closet something like 2foot across and 1foot deep...the temps are back down to about 24 celcius now so il just wait a couple of days and see if that was the problem
 

BOMBUDZ

Member
First Thanks KolorBlind for the info to post. Ive been waiting for a while to do this. Here is my Easy Ryder the first time I tried a auto... its about 63 days old now 8 weeks goin on 9. I would say I have another 2 weeks left. Its 23'' wide 17'' long or ?? 14'' tall.. a lot of bud sites and crystals poppin out; grown with CFL's. i have leaves curlin upwards kuz of heat I would say its real hot where I'm at and no airconditioning...I have fans on her but I also added some more lights recently kuz she is so bushy i wanted more light to get in the tight places..also yellowing of the big fan leaves tellin me she's gettin ready to finish...Tell me what ya think....
 

420forme

Active Member
I'm looking to do some a.f.'s for my next grow and was wondering what is a good container size for one? Growing in soil.
Still go by a half gallon per ft of plant? So about 1gallon, or 6 inch? Can someone help me out. Thanks.
 

KolorBlind

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I'm looking to do some a.f.'s for my next grow and was wondering what is a good container size for one? Growing in soil.
Still go by a half gallon per ft of plant? So about 1gallon, or 6 inch? Can someone help me out. Thanks.

Yeah thats always a good rule of thumb. Its all about what size plants you want. AFs can only give you so much height, but Ive seen them growing in containers as small as a 3ox clear cup ll the way to 10gal grow bags outdoors. I have grown in 6in pots and 2L soda bottles. I prefer the soda bottles as it lest them get much taller, but the bottles themselves are tall compared ot a regular pot so you will need some height in your grow space. My largest got about 20" with 12-14" being the average out of 8 plants. That was with Diesel Ryders.

Peace
KB
 

showhard2handle

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what up KB, got some close ups of the girls here.

ALL are still kicking out white hairs & crystals & overall fuzzy frostiness, so really hopin they aren't knocked up, cause they would stop bud production & focus on bean production, as is their natural M.O.

Is it safe to say I'm in the clear?

The close up of the "Pyramid", and the "ak" are the ones that were closest to the male (again we was removed bout 3 weeks ago).

Take a peak & lemme know what ya think homey.

Thanks for all your time!
 

showhard2handle

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slick, here we are.

Also, killer suggestion bout tyin down that guy that formerly was on the far right side.

That night you advised, I started tyin her down straight in middle of canopy to even out, as you said.

It's been fattening up very nice, totally bud porn worthy for a newb like me. But yeah, she's pretty much growin sideways now (that major stem anyway, its other branches are still right up). But again, great call, thanks for that. Guarantee I'll get more yield than I woulda left him far over on the right w/ not nearly as much direct light.

Alirght, sorry for the ramble, lemme know if I'm in the clear.

Thanks KB!
 

`SoA || Asi

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Hey guys my 2nd evr grow in/outdoor 5 clfs ph 6.5
This first one is EasyRyder day32 from seed second small one is
GreatWhiteShark 29 days gws allmost died at 6 fell off roof :P

 

KolorBlind

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SH2H - Man those babies look great, Im real excited for you. That last pic was the only one that was closeup enough to maybe tell, and it was a bit blurry at that. It will be hard to get a good picture, but the best place to look or try to take a picture of is the underside of any bud on the top half of the plant. You will usually see some calyxes that are more swollen than most.

If you can get a better shot go for it, but they look amazing and DEFINITELY not ruined thats for sure!! Glad the LST worked out for you, I always get more bud off the ones I LST, but it sometimes sucks to miss out on that large main cola. Gotta do what you gotta do though :)



`SoA - Man those are coming along real nice! Did you start them under CFLs then take them out or are you still using CFLs at times? Either way, that EasyRyder will get you a decent amount of bud for sure. My guess is an ounce dry if Im seeing the picture right. Its about 12" or more tall right now right?



KB
 

showhard2handle

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SH2H - Man those babies look great, Im real excited for you. That last pic was the only one that was closeup enough to maybe tell, and it was a bit blurry at that. It will be hard to get a good picture, but the best place to look or try to take a picture of is the underside of any bud on the top half of the plant. You will usually see some calyxes that are more swollen than most.

If you can get a better shot go for it, but they look amazing and DEFINITELY not ruined thats for sure!! Glad the LST worked out for you, I always get more bud off the ones I LST, but it sometimes sucks to miss out on that large main cola. Gotta do what you gotta do though :)



`SoA - Man those are coming along real nice! Did you start them under CFLs then take them out or are you still using CFLs at times? Either way, that EasyRyder will get you a decent amount of bud for sure. My guess is an ounce dry if Im seeing the picture right. Its about 12" or more tall right now right?



KB
KB, thanks my man. I'm super pumped as well. Breakin my cherry & all. I will follow your advice for a betta close up & hook that up tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for all the kind words!

Would you care to wager any guesses dry, on mine?

I prob. have at least 7 or 8 branches that are @ least 24" tall & gettin pretty swollen.

Then there are prob. 3-4 short guys that are way shorter but way juicer lookin (looks like one solid 15" tall cola on showww-ties).

Also, guess-timated chop time would be sweet as well. Beans popped on 1-16. Been under HID's exactly 7 days after that. Did MH for first 3 weeks, then switched to hps bulb when they hit flower (when that bad bad man tried to hurt my poor girls)ha.

Anyway, any guesses @ either of those from your exp. would be great.

Thanks again for your time bud!
 

`SoA || Asi

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thanks bro um it looks little bigger as pic
i give sun in morning about 3 to 4 hours and light for the rest
i have 2 25 watts and 3 23 watt clfs im happy with it
scary thing is i barely feed it nutes since it had a little nute burn
 

Growlow

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Hey guys/galls been a back seat follower of this thread for sum time....I LOVE AUTOS , and kudos to you kolorblind,, loads of sound info and great advice..This is a quality thread:clap::clap::clap::clap:
Thought id get involved in the visuals..
My EAsyryders, eight of them at 47 days old since seed
 

Topo

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You know, they say there is really no such thing as "instant gratification."

Autoflower MJ contradicts that school of thought :) I did my chores, sparked up a joint of Short Rider, and now I am feeling......just........fine....... :cool: When I looked back at my calendar, my total cycle was 74 days from seedling to harvest.

No complaints here....whatsoever :leaf:
 

chroniclow

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Sup Guys and Gals,

Just lookin for a bit of advice from fellow auto growers.
Ive got 8 Easyryders going at the min in NFT system.
Its day 47 and they're doing alright except for one of em.....

Seems to have female pre flowers and look like a girl to me but just hasn't developed nice juicy flowers like all my other girls.
Personally i think its just a dodgy seed that hasn't got the AUTO traight to it and it needs to go on 12/12 to induce flowering but im thinking bout choppin it down to give others a bit more light to lower nuggs.

Any Help or comments would be great..
Peace..

First pic is main cola of suspect plant
Second pic is all plants together and the suss one is back row, second in from left.
 

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Topo

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Sup Guys and Gals,

Just lookin for a bit of advice from fellow auto growers.
Ive got 8 Easyryders going at the min in NFT system.
Its day 47 and they're doing alright except for one of em.....

Seems to have female pre flowers and look like a girl to me but just hasn't developed nice juicy flowers like all my other girls.
Personally i think its just a dodgy seed that hasn't got the AUTO traight to it and it needs to go on 12/12 to induce flowering but im thinking bout choppin it down to give others a bit more light to lower nuggs.

Any Help or comments would be great..
Peace..

First pic is main cola of suspect plant
Second pic is all plants together and the suss one is back row, second in from left.
That's frustrating dude, I feel for ya. But I didn't see any evidence of male preflowers, or any banana's at all. So you know you are going to get bud, it's just and matter of if you're willing to see it through the process. Many of these autos, through my shopping of online seeds, are hybrids of indica, ruderalis, and sativa. And being that the "suspect" has started to flower before going to 12/12, it very well could still be an auto.

My guess is that for this particular plant, it has the phenotype that could be sativa dominant.

'Just a hunch/guess. I had 3 auto's, but they weren't all ready at the same time.

Quick question; did this plant show white hairs at the same time the others' did?

:leaf:
 
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