Auto White Russian (White widow, AK47, Lowryder) grow with CFLs

learing the ways

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hey queenbee,just read all 23 pages of ur previous grow and all of this grow too.seems like u may have greener fingers than you thought lol.i enjoyed the read thanx, also everythink looking great. just started my grow the other day take a look if your browsing puff puff pass >>>>>
 

illusionz1

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Hey queen... quick question!

I'm growin White Russian Autos hyrdo... I know since they're breed to grow and flower quicker... did you compensate for that when feeding them nutes?

I'm just pondering if 2 weeks is like 4 to them and would probably appreciate some bloom!
 

QueenBee

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Im no expert in nutes or hydro Im afraid - I gave my last lot tomato plant food! Maybe someone else around here will have some advice...? Anyone...?!
 

Nexus Polaris

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I am giving my auto's organic nute's, 5 of them just starting to flower, I am giving them pura vida bloom, they are responding nicely to it. Nutes work nice with them, but if you are going to use them on auto's I would use a soluble organic nute just cause it cut's down on the flush time. Just my opinion.
 

mr west

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pour me one please Lon mate im spittin feathers here, I just put a special ww in my cab yesterday. Id really like someone to grow one of the lr strains and have a joyus harvest of over 2 oz a plant easily.
 

Londoner

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Big mug of coffee coming right up Mr West, none of that mocha latte shite either :lol: but youl have to make it yourself next time :lol:
 

Londoner

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Im no expert in nutes or hydro Im afraid - I gave my last lot tomato plant food! Maybe someone else around here will have some advice...? Anyone...?!
Bio-Bizz grow and bloom works for me in flower, 100% certified organic by three organic bodies.

Dont use nothing in veg, just repot when each pot is full of roots and the fresh compost feeds them fine till the next repotting
 

QueenBee

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Are feminised seeds made by using the pollen off a hermie? Might have totally got my wires crossed on that one, if I do can someone tell me how they are made?! Been wondering for ages
 

matthewdmac

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i read that you let your female go a few more weeks after it is fully matured, this will provoke the growth of little bananas containing female pollen, store this pollen in a zip-lock bag, viable for a good two months, save this pollen and brush it on your next female plant. The seeds created should then be feminized.
 

Londoner

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Feminised seeds are made from a female that self pollenates (herms)

But if you made your own fem seeds they will carry the same hermie trait as its herm mother possibly resulting in a whole hermie crop :-(

The feminisation processes that breeders do avoids this.
 

QueenBee

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Ok maybe Ill leave that area alone then!

My Mix seedling # has f*cked up, the first set of true leaves are all deformed and not working. So thats that one gone. Star has a tiny bit of the end of one of her first leaves missing as well (just the end tip, nothing major I hope) so Im not impressed with the Dwarf Mix seeds so far.
Also, pretty sure Z is a boy.
 

QueenBee

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Miracle grow, I dont have a big budget and the shops round here dont have much choice! It probably wouldnt show up on my phone camera, just you know how the first set of leaves start coming up, well only one side started growing and the other side was just like bits of mess where the plant should be growing. And the baby leaves are brown and speckly in places and the deformed mushed up first set of leaves are mostly dead matter. Im sounding very complicated, its just not working basically! No point leaving it to see, it wont work Im certain
 

Londoner

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The miracle grow is too hot for seedlings, thats probably what done it, some strains will take it fine, but some will burn in it.

Dont you have a B&Q or Homebase near you?
 

QueenBee

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Maybe Homebase, but the nearest is stupid Focus which is sh*t. By too hot do you mean too many nutes? Or wrong pH? Maybe next time or for repotting I can find another compost but theyll have to make do for now coz its all Ive got! What would you recommend (that doesnt cost the earth!)?
 

Londoner

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Maybe Homebase, but the nearest is stupid Focus which is sh*t. By too hot do you mean too many nutes? Or wrong pH? Maybe next time or for repotting I can find another compost but theyll have to make do for now coz its all Ive got! What would you recommend (that doesnt cost the earth!)?

I germ my seeds in Jiffy pellets, 10p each from most growshops and theyre available at homebases too.



Then when roots show out of the jiffys they go in a small pot of this, no more that a 1ltr pot because it wont feed an established plant, About £3.50 per 12ltr bag from B&Q, but pretty much any seed/cutting compost will do from B&Q or homebase etc.




Then when theyve rooted the 1ltr pots of seedling mix and can take hotter composts they go in 6ltr pots of this, Westlands west+ multi purpose compo with john innes, £6.99 per 60ltr bag from virtually all B&Q's and homebases.



Yea hot means too much fert in the soil already for young plants.

Ive tried all the expensive composts from the growshops, bio bizz, canna, plagron etc and theyre all overpriced cack IMHO ;-)
 

matthewdmac

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I got this from Soma a few years back it may help you,

Creating feminized seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.

Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.



I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.

To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.

For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from THSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: “Drop seeds not bombs”. Soma
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Zandor

I got this of grasscity forums, i know its still a hermie but since that pollen is off a different female plant and you are putting it onto another female plant will the resulting seeds not be feminized because of this?

has anyone ever tried this method, and this is from Soma so i assume so.

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