Auto-flowers in Ontario, Canada?

Govno

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Nice to meet ya as well
Damn that’s crazy, yea I kinda live in the bush so lots of wildlife, it would most likely be a doomed venture lol
Guerrilla growing is growing outdoors on a spot of land that ain’t yours or is public. There are guys out there that so this on an epic scale.
Good to know and nice to meet you!
 

Boreal Curing

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Im really liking the idea of gorillaing autos out in the bush as well. Good topic.

My son's an avid bushwacker and knows tons of spots, but, don't the deer love eating all the plants?
No. Deer are not crazy about it in the spring. there's lots of food for them. But mice, rabbits, foxes? Different story.

Here's a quick rundown on Guerilla Growing. I think it's worth mentioning.

By far, the most important thing is to plan it out. From germination to planting and the occasional maintenance run to string trim between your plants.

Before I begin, it’s important to have a water source close at hand or you’ll be carrying it in for planting time. They absolutely need water when you plant them. I also add a little water crystals to the holes when I dig them to retain water during dry spells.

This is a site I’ve used several times and bring a pump and pool drain hose because it’s a big site and usually have a couple hundred in there.
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Germinating
I typically soak my seeds in a cup of water and a bit of Peroxide (3% drug store stuff) for 48 hours. Then I put a wet paper towel in a plastic container, drop the seeds in it, fold over the paper towel, put the lid on it, and finally place it on a warm surface. I usually put the container on top of my shop LED lights. Slightly warm to the touch, not hot at all. A few seeds in a paper towel and a zip lock bag works just as well.
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Here’s some I forgot about (had a very busy spring.)
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Starting with Round or Square Peat Pots
If you use the 2 inch Peat Pots, soak them in water for about 10 minutes. They can be a little acidic and this fixes it. Don't bother PH'ing the water. Well or Tap water is fine. Any chlorine in your water will have dissipated by the time you use them. I have access to hot water in my shop so I use warm water, but cold is fine. Sometimes I use square ones, sometimes round. I fill the pots with a generic seed starter mix. Once they’re all filled and in trays, I add about 4 -6 cups of water in the tray, and use a watering can to top water hydrating the seed starter. This is the ONLY time I water from the top. From here on out, I only add water in the tray and let the pots wick up the water.
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Once the pots are hydrated, I add poke a hole in the start mix with my finger and add my sprouts.

Starting seedlings with #7 Jiffy Pellets
I love Peat Pellets because if I’m doing a big run, I can carry more. I can carry several hundred at a time. I even stuffed a backpack with 50 once. If you’re careful, you can limit the damage.
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While you're waiting for your seedlings to reach 4 weeks old.
While your babies are growing up, it’s time to visit your grow site to prep your site and help the wildlife acclimatize to the activity you’re introducing. Wildlife is curious in the extreme, so this part will save you grief.

You can use something like round-up to kill weeds if you don’t give a shit and are a bit of a douche bag, but I use a battery String Trimmer because I grow 100% organic. I replace the string with a blade because I like to get down to the earth. The battery powered ones are not as strong as a gas job, but way quieter and I don’t have to haul gas.
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Once I’ve cleared the site, I spread a couple handfuls of chicken manure pellets on the site. A couple handfuls, not a bucket full. Let the animals play with it. It’ll help fertilize the site at the same time.

A few days later, I’ll return with three things; A Cordless Drill (and a charged spare battery), a Garden or modified Ice Auger, and a bucket of amendments. I’ll only drill down a foot but I really mess it up by moving the auger in a big circle underground. I mean really mess that shit up.
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This small one is good but the shaft bends easily. I usually use it at planting time because the holes may have settled by then.
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Once I have my holes dug/drilled, I dump a handful of amendments in the hole, and one around the hole.

An extra battery will stop you from kicking grass if you run out of power. One battery lets me drill hundreds of holes, but I hate running out of shit when I really need it.

By this time, my seedlings are about 2 weeks old.

I’ll take a roll of short (24 inch if I can find it) chicken wire and two bamboo garden stakes per hole. I bring a cordless (battery) hand grinder with me to cut up the chicken wire. Working with scissors to cut it will fuck you up. Lol The shorter it is the better. It’s only to protect the base of the plant and the hole. Raccoons, foxes and coyotes will try to dig them up, and rabbits will want to chop them down. The chicken wire stops them. In the springtime up here, there’s lots of food for deer so they won’t mess with cannabis much. Worse case, they’ll top a few. If you live in an area that lacks lots of springtime food for deer, then the 30-36 inch chicken wire will have to do. I find deer don’t really go for my weed plants at all once they reach 2 feet tall. But I’ve had them sleep on plants in the grow.


I cut all my cages so I won’t have to do it when I plant. The wind won’t blow them away and rain won’t hurt them.

Before I leave, I’ll spread a bit more amendments with high N fertilizer around for the animals again. But this time it’s more of a general site fertility thing.

Planting Time
At 4 weeks old, I move everything out. I try to time it so my early starts are ready the last week in May, then in two week increments up until mid July when the last seedlings go out (usually Autos).

When I show up on site, I usually find the local animals have been playing around and investigating the site. Some holes are dug up and messed up a bit. It’s important to include some of your original seed starter mix in your amendments so your plants don’t smell that different to animals when you plant them.

By this time the holes may have settled somewhat so I bring a hand spade or small shovel (not cheap ones that will break on you the first time you use them) , or even bring the drill and auger back. If it’s sandy loam, a hand spade will do. If it’s tight soil, you may need a little shovel.

There. You’re done. Plants are in their holes and caged. Now you absolutely must give them a good drink.

On that note, I forgot to mention the most important thing!
Every time you visit your site, bring a lunch and lots of water to drink because you’ll need it. Been there, done that and it’s not fun at all. (cold pizza slices does the trick for me. It's filling and easy to carry. But I never seem to bring enough water.). And for god's sake, carry your garbage out with you.

Peace.
 
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VILEPLUME

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I'm eastern Ontario and have grown two crops of Autos a few times. A late frost all but killed my early plants this year, but they came back and still gave me a bit. Pound for pound, I've had Autos produce as much as, and in one case definitely more than photos. but the real upside is stealth and spreading out your harvest.

I'm licenced but I miss the guerilla aspect so I do a small run or two or autos. Planting in a soy bean field and topping them produces awesome plants.
Awesome, thank you for sharing your experience. That's crazy that some autos produce more outdoors.
 

Boreal Curing

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Awesome, man. incredible information! <three thumbs up>
makes me wanna go out there right now. lololol
It's fun for sure but can be a shit ton of work. It's not all beer and skittles.

There are Wolf/Coyote hybrids here. A couple years ago I was harvesting by hand stripping branches (because it's faster than scissors) in a clearing about the size of a baseball diamond. I had a few big duffle bags full of bud and it was getting dark. I had a head lamp so I could go longer. I could hear the howls off in the distance. I guessed they were a half mile or so away. They were on me in less than 5 minutes. I could hear them yelping and talking while they positioned themselves along the edge of the clearing. I froze with them all around me at this point. I started backing out slowly, abandoning the duffle bags, and made low growling noises hoping it would tell them I'm pissed and will fight. I don't know if it helped at all, but I eventually made my way back to the road and my truck. Scary shit. I returned the next morning with nothing disturbed to finish brining it in.

A week later, a local farmer shot this bad boy in his yard. So they're bold too.
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phrygian44

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It's fun for sure but can be a shit ton of work. It's not all beer and skittles.

There are Wolf/Coyote hybrids here.
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lmao scary, man. and i hear's ya. i've been bushwhacking in Ontario for well over 45 years now, so i know what it's like. my son is also an avid busher (he's 29), and a lot of times we bring the night goggles along and end up gettin' back around midnight from a day's excurstion. It's wild trecking through the bush at night. Sure gets the senses going. (:

look's like the wolf is exhausted from doing all the work from carrying out all your duffel bags. lolol

btw, it can be beer and skittles. my buddy from Renfrew use to hike into the hunt camps a couple of times a year and we would camp there for a couple of weeks. we'd then get his brother to boat about six 24's of beer across the lake and we would meet him on designated days. you wanna talk about being a bitch hauling one case in your backpack while carrying another like you're walkin' outta the beer store, about a good kilometer through thick, scraggly bush back to the camp, all the while the big F'n Black flies having a field day on you. Man, the shit we used to do when we were young. now we take the ATV with trailer in. lmao

Thanks for the head's up. This should sure scare the other newbies away, which means more choice land to gorilla for you and me. :lol::lol::lol:
Peace
 
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Jjgrow420

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Similar story planting up on a hill in the bush. Heard the wolves howling in the distance sounded like they were tracking/trying to surround me. Planted those babies mighty quick and got outta there so fast I prob left the old smoke outline like the roadrunner. Lol. Another time I was in the corn harvesting some small patches here and there when I heard a loud grunt/nose blowing noise. Sounded like a bull that was pissed....and that's actually what it was. A male deer bull though lol. Glad he didn't decide to Peirce my ass with his horns. I actually never even got a look at him it was quite dark and I was spooked as hell. He must have been just a few rows over from me. I walked machete in hand the whole time lol. Good times.
 

Boreal Curing

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lmao scary, man. and i hear's ya. i've been bushwhacking in Ontario for well over 45 years now, so i know what it's like. my son is also an avid busher (he's 29), and a lot of times we bring the night goggles along and end up gettin' back around midnight from a day's excurstion. It's wild trecking through the bush at night. Sure gets the senses going. (:

look's like the wolf is exhausted from doing all the work from carrying out all your duffel bags. lolol

btw, it can be beer and skittles. my buddy from Renfrew use to hike into the hunt camps a couple of times a year and we would camp there for a couple of weeks. we'd then get his brother to boat about six 24's of beer across the lake and we would meet him on designated days. you wanna talk about being a bitch hauling one case in your backpack while carrying another like you're walkin' outta the beer store, about a good kilometer through thick, scraggly bush back to the camp, all the while the big F'n Black flies having a field day on you. Man, the shit we used to do when we were young. now we take the ATV with trailer in. lmao

Thanks for the head's up. This should sure scare the other newbies away, which means more choice land to gorilla for you and me. :lol::lol::lol:
Peace
All Renfrew/Lanark is wild country. Love it.
 
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