Aussie High Lights – we're official

Grow Lights Australia said:

Not any time soon. If there's enough demand then maybe, but selling DIY has it's ups and downs, as some people just get themselves into trouble wiring stuff up and then I have to help them, which can take up a lot of time. Designing the plug-and-play system has also taken time, but hopefully I won't have to answer so many emails about how to get things working!

We're also working on something else that might be better suited to DIYers that can also switch over to plug and play, but one thing at a time. We have a lot of ideas, but things do take time if you want to do them properly.

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Well that sucks than especially if the price point of the new boards is going to be higher. Will probably have to switch back to cutter/hlg panels or something. Original boards where/are mint,
Can’t offer them with the new fandangoed connectors?

Edit: just checked out the website. New boards look good, the price point does not. At that much I’ll definitely be heading down another route, $600 for 220w is a bit rich for my blood even if it is plug and play.

reza92 said:

Well that sucks than especially if the price point of the new boards is going to be higher. Will probably have to switch back to cutter/hlg panels or something. Original boards where/are mint,
Can’t offer them with the new fandangoed connectors?

Edit: just checked out the website. New boards look good, the price point does not. At that much I’ll definitely be heading down another route, $600 for 220w is a bit rich for my blood even if it is plug and play.

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You do know that includes a driver, all cables, heatsink, hangers and 10% GST. With the 10% forum discount and no GST (less 20%) and with optional driverless kits coming out, there will be ways to score these cheaper. The retail price point is for the benefit of shop retailers, which is where we are expanding into. We will still look after the DIY guys. And there are double kits to go up that will be relatively cheaper than the single kits.

Do you already have some of our boards (sorry if I can't remember right now)? We will definitely look after guys who have bought from us before and everyone from here gets 10% off plus there will be bulk discounts etc.

Grow Lights Australia said:

Are you in Australia? You do know that includes a driver, all cables, heatsink, hangers and 10% GST. With the 10% forum discount and no GST (less 20%) and with an optional driverless kits that will be cheaper, there are ways to score these cheaper. The retail price point is for the benefit of shop retailers, which is where we are expanding into. We will still look after the DIY guys. And there are double kits to go up that will be relatively cheaper than the single kits.

Can I ask, do you already own any High Light boards?

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Yeah I’m in Australia and yeah I own a iv board. Even with all that it’s still expensive for a 220w light. As I mentioned I’m a big fan of the old boards especially at the price point they where offered ( sourcing my own drivers I could get them for under $300 a boards). Doubling that for a plug and play unit is a bit too steep for me, if they where around or under the $500 mark I’d consider it

reza92 said:

Well that sucks than especially if the price point of the new boards is going to be higher. Will probably have to switch back to cutter/hlg panels or something. Original boards where/are mint,
Can’t offer them with the new fandangoed connectors?

Edit: just checked out the website. New boards look good, the price point does not. At that much I’ll definitely be heading down another route, $600 for 220w is a bit rich for my blood even if it is plug and play.

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Where are you getting $600 from? It says $475, fully loaded. Just over $2/w for a specialty board is not bad imo.

hybridway2 said:

Where are you getting $600 from? It says $475, fully loaded. Just over $2/w for a specialty board is not bad imo.

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Lol na. Man.

reza92 said:

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Lol na. Man.

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Oh, must be an Aussie Thang. Us USA residents get 475 it appears.?

hybridway2 said:

Oh, must be an Aussie Thang. Us USA residents get 475 it appears.?

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Aud vs usd. I’m Australian so work in aud.

I'm in the same boat, AU $$ living in NZ, cant say to much as not seen reviews and so forth for the new lights but you have to
think about the $$ these days

EDIT- I still think these are some of the best boards in the market and will buy more when the time is right , I would also recommend this company as they do what they say and dont spin crap like a lot of others

With the FORUM discount it's A$540 and this is what you get. The 470W double kits will be A$990 including the discount, which is more than twice the power and double the boards/heatsinks. There will also be a 340W double kit that will be around A$850 after the 10% discount. The new boards are 20% more efficient, which is 20% more light for the same wattage as the old boards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think that's bad value for what you get. Or you could try finding a better board that doesn't need supplemental far red and/or UV that runs off one driver and is the same 3 umol/j efficiency and PCB quality. We've used German Lapp cable, Italian slimline Techno connectors, waterproof TE SMD connectors and the boards and heatsinks are bigger than the original High Lights, too.

Grow Lights Australia said:

With the FORUM discount it's A$540 and this is what you get. The 470W double kits will be A$990 including the discount, which is more than twice the power and double the boards/heatsinks. There will also be a 340W double kit that will be around A$850 after the 10% discount. The new boards are 20% more efficient, which is 20% more light for the same wattage as the old boards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think that's bad value for what you get. Or you could try finding a better board that doesn't need supplemental far red and/or UV that runs off one driver and is the same 3 umol/j efficiency and PCB quality. We've used German Lapp cable, Italian slimline Techno connectors, waterproof TE SMD connectors and the boards and heatsinks are bigger than the original High Lights, too.

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I’m yet to see any improvements in my crop from the uv boards vs a standard cutter board with no far red. I drive both boards at 150w and they produce the same amount of heat. For the increased cost the gains are minimal imo. Cost is the biggest factor for me (and many other growers) and the current cost just isn’t worth the extra few % of yeild (if that) I’d see. If you continue to offer the old boards or something at a reasonable price I’ll definitely grab some more until than I’ll continue to shop around or stop being lazy and go back to bridglux strips.

Grow Lights Australia said:

With the FORUM discount it's A$540 and this is what you get. The 470W double kits will be A$990 including the discount, which is more than twice the power and double the boards/heatsinks. There will also be a 340W double kit that will be around A$850 after the 10% discount. The new boards are 20% more efficient, which is 20% more light for the same wattage as the old boards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think that's bad value for what you get. Or you could try finding a better board that doesn't need supplemental far red and/or UV that runs off one driver and is the same 3 umol/j efficiency and PCB quality. We've used German Lapp cable, Italian slimline Techno connectors, waterproof TE SMD connectors and the boards and heatsinks are bigger than the original High Lights, too.

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Well, I just wet myself (for future me)

Still want the current version, are we able to source the same heatsinks ourselves that you guys bringing @Grow Lights Australia ? I think I'll still push forward with another 2 high light boards (will email later) I love your trade in idea too. That's awesome

I think allot of people are forgetting these are specialty boards. Meaning only style in existence using special. expensive diodes. Vitasolis, Technik 430, Nichia, offer the very important coating with remote driver & dimmer, with real heatsinks. They are much bigger meaning lmmore diffused light & this spectrum will rock the last one, I guarantee it. Sbs that shit. 1/2 # per 4x4 adds up n that's what the difference will be close to (prob 5 oz) Against regular white +660, they definitely will get the 1/2# more.
You do the math.

hybridway2 said:

I think allot of people are forgetting these are specialty boards. Meaning only style in existence using special. expensive diodes. Vitasolis, Technik 430, Nichia, offer the very important coating with remote driver & dimmer, with real heatsinks. They are much bigger meaning lmmore diffused light & this spectrum will rock the last one, I guarantee it. Sbs that shit. 1/2 # per 4x4 adds up n that's what the difference will be close to (prob 5 oz) Against regular white +660, they definitely will get the 1/2# more.
You do the math.

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You say that but i Doubt it. Maybe in a larger grow but as I mentioned in my small grow I am yet to see a difference between the old boards and an original solskin board in 3500k with no extra far red diodes. Only reason I went the highlights originally was price, aus product and larger board footprint.

reza92 said:

You say that but i Doubt it. Maybe in a larger grow but as I mentioned in my small grow I am yet to see a difference between the old boards and an original solskin board in 3500k with no extra far red diodes. Only reason I went the highlights originally was price, aus product and larger board footprint.

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Whats your sol-skin consist of? You bought a customized board w/o 730/40nm? Is it pumped with 630-660? Need that Emerson & Stretch to gain a fuller potential. Width x height is always greater then just width. About 30% greater.
I'm just throwing it out there based on others results I've seen plus my own garden comparing spectrums with equal plants.
If it were only 2oz more then the old boards (which efficiency itself covers) thats a gain over initial cost. NM the difference in a flowering spectrum ontop of that for another 2-4 oz. Shit, ill pay 2.25/w for that.
Currency doesn't equal out?

hybridway2 said:

Whats your sol-skin consist of? You bought a customized board w/o 730/40nm? Is it pumped with 630-660? Need that Emerson & Stretch to gain a fuller potential. Width x height is always greater then just width. About 30% greater.
I'm just throwing it out there based on others results I've seen plus my own garden comparing spectrums with equal plants.
If it were only 2oz more then the old boards (which efficiency itself covers) thats a gain over initial cost. NM the difference in a flowering spectrum ontop of that for another 2-4 oz. Shit, ill pay 2.25/w for that.
Currency doesn't equal out?

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The cutter solskin is just Samsung diodes in 3500k no far red, no uv and it performs as well as the original highlight uv board for me. Only reason I prefer the highlight board is it’s physically bigger so has a more even light spread which isn’t a huge issue for me. As be mentioned big fan of the original highlight boards mostly because of their price point. Probably won’t even bother dropping dollars on the new ones.

reza92 said:

The cutter solskin is just Samsung diodes in 3500k no far red, no uv and it performs as well as the original highlight uv board for me. Only reason I prefer the highlight board is it’s physically bigger so has a more even light spread which isn’t a huge issue for me. As be mentioned big fan of the original highlight boards mostly because of their price point. Probably won’t even bother dropping dollars on the new ones.

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That does not surprise me. I bet a lab test would have been able to tell a slight difference in cannabinoids though. Not for nothing and no offence to Aussie grow lights but their 1st factory spectrum had a lot of the same problems regular white has. Making it more of a "Photographer" (cri based) spectrum then a Cannabis flowering spectrum like they have now.

hybridway2 said:

That does not surprise me. I bet a lab test would have been able to tell a slight difference in cannabinoids though. Not for nothing and no offence to Aussie grow lights but their 1st factory spectrum had a lot of the same problems regular white has. Making it more of a "Photographer" (cri based) spectrum then a Cannabis flowering spectrum like they have now.

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In small hobby/personal grows price will always be the determining factor for a product. The 1-2%’s don’t really matter unless your a commercial grower.

reza92 said:

In small hobby/personal grows price will always be the determining factor for a product. The 1-2%’s don’t really matter unless your a commercial grower.

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Ok dude! Ima end this so I'm not Hyjacking or causing a disruption. Only takes one guy to not see my point or disagree for those threads to get shut down or me getting Slo-Mo'd. For real, so I'll 100% AGREE w/ you & everyone else here, even if they have no experience yet in the specific field being discussed.
Think I mentioned up to a 30% increase in Bag-Meat. 28% is a pretty large difference imo. Idc if you're a homegrower or chedda-chaser.
@Mikenike got 6oz difference out of a 4x4, x2 times on a row & going on his third. Only mention him because we know he is unbiased & i feel he did a good job.
The only difference between the x2 sides was spectrum & minor distribution by means of diodes. Both bar lights. Same ppfd,efficiency, parameters, ect... Did I mention the quality was also noticeably higher end he said on the properly tuned side? The HE Spectrums buds looked like middies in comparison. W/O a Proper comparison (not x2 of the same thing )one may never notice because they did not indeed compare to anything but ppfd.
I see the same in my garden. Thats why I'm always supplementing my white or white +660 fixtures.
My best grow ever (last one documented on Solar Bar-8 thread) had 1/3 of the HE, white based fixtures replaced with Epistar, 1.6 umol/j ,RGB boards. They are 12%/B,13%/G,75%/R & mixed with the HE whites & enhanced whites (from side cross-lighting) they grew huge buds that were still dense & had all the look of fancy colored led buds. So big in fact that I could barely zip the bags. 2 g/w throughout on a pheno hunt. Almost 20#'s out of my tiny ass room. 5#'s higher then I've ever accomplished yet dropped the room electrical efficiency by about 1/3rd.
Spectrum brother. It is literally half the battle & GLA NAILED IT coupled with electrical Efficiency to boot. Omg! That's what I'm talking about!

hybridway2 said:

Ok dude! Ima end this so I'm not Hyjacking or causing a disruption. Only takes one guy to not see my point or disagree for those threads to get shut down or me getting Slo-Mo'd. For real, so I'll 100% AGREE w/ you & everyone else here, even if they have no experience yet in the specific field being discussed.
Think I mentioned up to a 30% increase in Bag-Meat. 28% is a pretty large difference imo. Idc if you're a homegrower or chedda-chaser.
@Mikenike got 6oz difference out of a 4x4, x2 times on a row & going on his third. Only mention him because we know he is unbiased & i feel he did a good job.
The only difference between the x2 sides was spectrum & minor distribution by means of diodes. Both bar lights. Same ppfd,efficiency, parameters, ect... Did I mention the quality was also noticeably higher he said. Comparing the HE Spectrums buds to middles in comparison. A comparison one may never notice if they did not indeed compare.
I see the same in my garden. Thats why I'm always supplementing my white or white +660 fixtures.
My best grow ever (last one documented on Solar Bar-8 thread) had 1/3 of the HE, white based fixtures replaced with Epistar, 1.6 umol/j ,RGB boards. They are 12%/B,13%/G,75%/R & mixed with the HE whites & enhanced whites (from side cross-lighting) they grew huge buds that were still dense & had all the look of fancy colored led buds. So big in fact that I could barely zip the bags. 2 g/w throughout on a pheno hunt. Almost 20#'s out of my tiny ass room. 5#'s higher then I've ever accomplished yet dropped the room electrical efficiency by about a 3rd.
Spectrum brother. It is literally half the battle & GLA NAILED IT coupled with electrical Efficiency to boot. Omg! That's what I'm talking about!

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Yeah I get what your saying but I’m not dropping Almost double the Bones on a light for a “20% increase” if that’s even what I’d get when I could run 2 lights for that price and get a 100% increase.

LEDS because they are improving so quickly year by year it seems like you can save a bit of coin and drop 10 - 20% efficancy or whatever and get older models, not as efficient designs etc.

I don't think the new highlights seem overpriced from a consumer perspective. I am someone who got an older highlight kit, and I would prefer not having to put it together, having everything plug and play is better for me personally. Also happy to support smaller Australian companies that are passionate as a fellow Aussie.