ATTN: U.S. Seed Buyers

Ghost420

Ghost420

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Johnnyorganic said:
This forum features new threads all the time discussing seed banks which go into some detail regarding which seed banks are reputable.



Government agents are bureaucrats in the end. A Customs Agent would have to go to the trouble of notifying local law enforcement of the thwarted seed delivery. If your seeds are seized and you are notified officially you could move your existing grow. However, if you have not been arrested by the time the notice arrives, you could assume that the bureaucrat seized the seeds and replaced them with the notice then sent your package out for postal delivery. Each agent processes thousands of pieces of overseas mail every work day. After inspecting packages all day, are they really going take their personal time to find and notify local law enforcement? There is no payoff for the Customs agent.

Where I live the city owns the local electrical utility. Incriminating power usage rates by growers would be very easy for even the laziest, donut-eating fuck of a cop to acquire. The truth is that if they really wanted us, they would have us already.

I believe law enforcement won't arrest personal-use growers who fly under their radar. This does not mean you smoke a blunt on your front porch while yelling drunken insults at every passerby. Law enforcement considers us a low priority. We're just not worth their time and assets.

Another reason we lambs sleep with the lions is that the lions cannot harm us without doing severe damage to society. They can't round us up; too many of us now and we're wired. They missed their chance and now we are organized and communicate online. Only a police state could absorb such a surge in the offender population of the existing criminal justice infrastructure (cops, courts & prisons) and avoid a revolt. The criminal justice machine is very expensive to operate. Taxpayers simply would not bear the cost if law enforcement decided to round us up. In other words, if they could have gotten us we would have been penalized out of existence by now.
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why do we seem to agree on eveything haha people listen to him if you ordered seeds and you dont live in IL YOU ARE GOING TO BE FINE. every once and a while cops do this to make people paranoid.
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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I have never had seeds seized by customs. I always send them to another address. If I ever got a customs letter I would consider that address compromised. Most of the time there is no link to me and the address the seeds are delivered to as well. These people were just growing a personal stash and made some stupid mistakes. It is sad too because the cops are going to smack them with distribution charges. I hope Indiana has friendly pot laws . . .
 
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SOorganic

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Damn i wish i get close to 10 grand off my crop, they just had 5 more than i do! How do they figure they would make so much money off their crop?? And there really dumb for letting the cops in to their basement. Should have told the cops to fuck off at the front door then immediately call a lawyer.
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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SOorganic said:
Damn i wish i get close to 10 grand off my crop, they just had 5 more than i do! How do they figure they would make so much money off their crop?? And there really dumb for letting the cops in to their basement. Should have told the cops to fuck off at the front door then immediately call a lawyer.
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At 3k a pound you would need a little over three pounds at harvest. This is more of the cops spouting bullshit, there is no way this couple was pulling three pounds off a few plants for personal use.:sleep:
 
BobMarleySpliffs

BobMarleySpliffs

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At full maturity, all of the plants would have a street value of more than $10,000, police said
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I need some of that, must be 2lbs buds on each cola and they weren't even mature. I'm so tired of the exaggerated bullshit numbers they pull out of their asses. In reality they spent 50 to 100 thousand to bust some innocent tax paying toker with a half pound of potential weed worth a thousand, wow great job fellas.
 
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max420thc

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Tanuvan said:
Seeds Lead To 19 Pot Plants

[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Seeds Lead To 19 Pot Plants[/FONT]
[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Online Purchase Tracked By Police[/FONT]

[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Stan Maddux[/FONT]
[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]For The News-Dispatch[/FONT]

[FONT=GEORGIA, SERIF]LA PORTE - An online purchase of marijuana seeds from overseas caught the attention of federal authorities, leading to the discovery of an alleged growing operation in La Porte.

According to investigators, 19 plants were grown mostly to support the habit of David Bollinger, 57, and Sandra Manring, 49.

"They've been longtime users of marijuana," Indiana State Police Trooper Jason Sample alleged.

Sample, the lead investigator, said the seeds were ordered from Europe and delivered to Chicago's O'Hare Airport.

U.S. Customs and Immigration authorities detected something peculiar about the package and called Indiana authorities.

With the address from the package in hand, Sample responded to the home Monday night in the 1600 block of Stone Lake Drive.

He smelled an odor of fresh marijuana and was allowed to go in the basement where the plants, high-powered lights, fertilizer and other materials used in a hydroponic growing operation were discovered.

Due to their cooperation, the couple will be allowed to turn themselves in if a judge - after reviewing the evidence - orders them arrested, police said.

The couple allegedly told investigators they had been growing marijuana for at least four years, mostly for personal use.

Judging from their ledger books, though, Sample said some of the marijuana was sold.

At full maturity, all of the plants would have a street value of more than $10,000, police said.



So how safe is seed buying online????? :evil:
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yea..i live in indiana..the cops come to my home.because they were watching doc chronic;s operation..and everything he sent to chicago was getting caught..the cops showed up at my home with the dogs and everything..that is how they roll in indiana..if they catch your b eans coming in they will send the dog to your house and a pile of pigs...they didnt find any trhing but a couple of joints of swag..i dont shit where i eat..thank god...i spent the evening in jail though..and they confiscated my money..a pipe .grinder ect..and they stole a bunch of shit out of my garage they didnt even report..i hate fucking cops..by the way..they wont do shit to you for ordering the seeds on line..with your own credit card..they will go straight to your computor though and look for evidence..you will never see me post a picture on any site..sorry folks..i like my freedom...if i did not live in indiana all that would have happened is i would have gotten a letter from customs...indiana is the only state i know of that does this..thinking in retrospect..even though the pigs didnt get anything on me..that wont be thrown out of court ..i have a excellent lawyer...if you dont have one..get one and put him on retainer :hump:...there is a place just up the street that rents mail box's..just rent a mail box and have your seeds sent to it..it costs more..but ill tell you ..it dont cost as much as having the pigs raid your house..i wonder how much the state spent on raiding my home? they had 8 cops..a dog...ect ect..unmarked SUV;s..brand new ones all over the place..there was only one marked car..and it had the dog in it..the cops here roll in large trucks with tinted windows..shit like 4 door 4 wheel drive trucks..all of them NEW....nothing to good for our guys..what a fucking waste...i hope i cost the shit out of the state raiding my home...it had to be several thousand dollars worth of tax payer money..over what?2 joints..LOL....oh..they have their suspicions...but no proof:mrgreen:..never ever ever let the cops in your home without a warrent..NEVER...i should get my high times mags back..my money they confiscated...hopefully a couple of my switch blade knifes...ill never get the shit back they stole..i always knew ..when i was building homes..and alot of these cops were buying like 250K dollar homes on a cops salery..of like 40K a year..it wasnt one of two cops doing it..i was building quarter million dollar plus homes for cops ..lots of them..at least 10 in a year..cops cant afford that kind of shit..they are all a bunch of crooks....screw the crooked law..and screw the mafia government..do what you want to do....live free or die .....:blsmoke:
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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ugmjfarmer said:
So the Doc is compromised?
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The way I see it.
The article says "An online purchase of marijuana seeds from overseas caught the attention of federal authorities, leading to the discovery of an alleged growing operation in La Porte."

There either watching the internet, or they the "DEA" have there own
fake seed bank.
Just like how they bust people for trying to buy drugs from a undercover cop.

I heard of the FBI making fake childporn sites to bust pervs.
same difference.

Plus they say over seas.
Would it be safer to only deal with Canadian Seed Banks?
 
SlowToker

SlowToker

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We take a long drive once a year to BC and pick up our seeds. Doesn't cost a lot, great vacation from the grow rooms and little risk. I trust NO ONE!
Friends don't let friends order seeds!
 
NewGrowth

NewGrowth

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max420thc said:
yea..i live in indiana..the cops come to my home.because they were watching doc chronic;s operation..and everything he sent to chicago was getting caught..the cops showed up at my home with the dogs and everything..that is how they roll in indiana..if they catch your b eans coming in they will send the dog to your house and a pile of pigs...they didnt find any trhing but a couple of joints of swag..i dont shit where i eat..thank god...i spent the evening in jail though..and they confiscated my money..a pipe .grinder ect..and they stole a bunch of shit out of my garage they didnt even report..i hate fucking cops..by the way..they wont do shit to you for ordering the seeds on line..with your own credit card..they will go straight to your computor though and look for evidence..you will never see me post a picture on any site..sorry folks..i like my freedom...if i did not live in indiana all that would have happened is i would have gotten a letter from customs...indiana is the only state i know of that does this..thinking in retrospect..even though the pigs didnt get anything on me..that wont be thrown out of court ..i have a excellent lawyer...if you dont have one..get one and put him on retainer :hump:...there is a place just up the street that rents mail box's..just rent a mail box and have your seeds sent to it..it costs more..but ill tell you ..it dont cost as much as having the pigs raid your house..i wonder how much the state spent on raiding my home? they had 8 cops..a dog...ect ect..unmarked SUV;s..brand new ones all over the place..there was only one marked car..and it had the dog in it..the cops here roll in large trucks with tinted windows..shit like 4 door 4 wheel drive trucks..all of them NEW....nothing to good for our guys..what a fucking waste...i hope i cost the shit out of the state raiding my home...it had to be several thousand dollars worth of tax payer money..over what?2 joints..LOL....oh..they have their suspicions...but no proof:mrgreen:..never ever ever let the cops in your home without a warrent..NEVER...i should get my high times mags back..my money they confiscated...hopefully a couple of my switch blade knifes...ill never get the shit back they stole..i always knew ..when i was building homes..and alot of these cops were buying like 250K dollar homes on a cops salery..of like 40K a year..it wasnt one of two cops doing it..i was building quarter million dollar plus homes for cops ..lots of them..at least 10 in a year..cops cant afford that kind of shit..they are all a bunch of crooks....screw the crooked law..and screw the mafia government..do what you want to do....live free or die .....:blsmoke:
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Thanks bro I think it depends on local marijuana laws and the level of enforcement. In Colorado for example and Oz or under is a misdemeanor and just a fine. In Denver it is legal to carry an OZ . Officers have also been instructed that marijuana is a low enforcement priority. I'm sure California gets a floods of seeds as well.

So Indiana is full of anti-pot-natzis just means you need to get more involved with your local NORML chapter and get some of those laws reformed.:peace:

FREE THE WEED!:mrgreen:
 
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max420thc

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IheartKeif said:
Max420,
How long after you ordered the seeds did you get the visit?
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about 2 months or so...:leaf:matter of fact i joined RIU right after the raid ..i was scared to make posts on here till after the raid..the cops know they dont have anything here now..they might sick someone else on me..but i doubt it..i have already spoken with my lawyer on this..he said it will all be cleared up..the judge that ordered the warrent looks like a moron..in indiana he said the law states its about the same 30 grams and 10 lbs..so if you get caught for weed...it might as well be ten pounds..one of his clients my lawyer was telling me about was caught with 34000 in cash and two pounds...this is his second offence..he said he will have to pay a fine and serve six weeks in jail..its almost automatic if you are going to mess with anything over 30 grams..it might as well be ten pounds in indiana...my lawyer said...it is going to cost him a little in lawyer fee's..that he has already been paid..in CASH...but..he will only do six weeks...it pays to have a good lawyer..im telling you..a good lawyer on your side is worth his weight in GOLD..and always remember..shut up ..dont tell the cops anything..they have to prove EVERYTHING..make them do it...:hump:
 
t0k3s

t0k3s

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you got a weed plant cops are there fast as fuck to roll on you my house gets broken into while away they don't respond till the next day,tax dollars at their finest:blsmoke:
 
REEFS

REEFS

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If you are stupid enough to grow weed at the same address that your seeds are delivered to then I guess your dumb ass deserves to get busted! If they don't have any evidence they cant do jack shit.
 
la9

la9

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Tanuvan said:
One other thing of note... if you read carefully, the seeds arrived in a completely DIFFERENT state. They arrived in Chicago, and customs called Indiana LEO.
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when a package comes from overseas they go thru customs and one of the customs ports is Chicago so there is nothing fishy there.

If you lived in Florida and sent something to California would it not go thru a couple states before getting there ? Yes it would.

The person that got busted might be on this board or another I read, I'll have to check. It is a true story. The person I believe had a long police record is part of the story and Indiana Law is a little harsher than elsewhere.

I have heard when customs finds something they notify police in that area and see if they want to persue it or not.

I do get tired of seeing posts saying it's all bullshit and no one would get busted for this or that. The law is wierd and anything can happen. A rookie officer will pull you over for speeding 1 mph over the limit trying to make a name for himself so going to your house on a tip wouldn't be a stretch.
 
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max420thc

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there isnt a customs entrance for every state..for our region it goes through chicago.then the mail that goes to chicago from out of the country is sorted and inspected..then sent ti its respective place.or state or where ever in the region from there...
 
Tanuvan

Tanuvan

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la9 said:
when a package comes from overseas they go thru customs and one of the customs ports is Chicago so there is nothing fishy there.

If you lived in Florida and sent something to California would it not go thru a couple states before getting there ? Yes it would.
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Yes, that is the point I was getting at. You are not necessarily safe because customs in another state can inspect your package and contact YOUR local authorities.

The only seeds I order online are Habenero peppers. :bigjoint:
 
Moldy

Moldy

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Well, that settles it! I'm going to start saving the good males and breeding my horny ladies to get some seeds. Ah, one branch and a couple of hundred seeds later.... sounds like a plan.:-P
 
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