Are these mites?

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funny it's still legal here in the Ca, the state that bans everything.. Neem does not kill on contact . It is absorbd thru plant tissue and then eaten by the bugs . It does not kill eggs so there fore you have to break the cycle. It slows down the digestive and reproduction system of the mite until the population starves down. I have mites that go to happy hour and order neem cocktails. lol

Azamax a neem extract seems do to a lot better but is still a constant battle. I think with neem or Azamax using it preventatively before you have an infestation is the key.

Please don't get me wrong , Neem works but it is just a constant spraying though and stinks and not good in late flower. better have your ducks in a row by then.
 
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TWS said:
funny it's still legal here in the Ca, the state that bans everything.. Neem does not kill on contact . It is absorbd thru plant tissue and then eaten by the bugs . It does not kill eggs so there fore you have to break the cycle. It slows down the digestive and reproduction system of the mite until the population starves down. I have mites that go to happy hour and order neem cocktails. lol

Azamax a neem extract seems do to a lot better but is still a constant battle. I think with neem or Azamax using it preventatively before you have an infestation is the key.

Please don't get me wrong , Neem works but it is just a constant spraying though and stinks and not good in late flower. better have your ducks in a row by then.
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Yes I spray every Monday I alternate neem oil and axamax....
during late flower I just use azamax...
Neem oil is super user unfriendly...it's a bitch to use...but it's cheap....
I mix mine with pro-tekt as an emulsifier...and use warm water...shake the whole time...
I has a small patch of mites on my dead head OG in 2012.....
My mites don't like outside....they are kinda slow and potato.....
inside they are like the black plague of death....
 
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hmmm. I def see tiny web like structures. Funny thing is I only noticed the webbing after a couple cold nights. I would bring my plants inside then back out in the morning, each morning I would find tiny web like things on my plants. My local garden center claims to have a remedy for mites. I am going to check it out n see what all I can get.
 
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I read "
By Ed Rosenthal

Will setting plants outdoors cure their mite infestation?

My plants are infested with spider mites and I plan to plant them outdoors in October to flower them. Will the wind and rain solve the mite problem naturally?
Jonny Switchblade
Jacksonville, Florida

Probably. The outdoor environment is much less friendly to mites than indoors. Wind, rain, cool weather and predators will all take their toll on the mites. To remove most of the mites as the plants are moved outdoors, spray the plants with water using a hose with a nozzle. Mites hang out mostly on the underside of leaves so that’s where the spray should be aimed.The pressurized water dislodges most of the mite population, decreasing stress on the plants. After the plants are washed, spray them with an anti-transpirant to prevent stresses that result in dehydration and wilting. Many mites and their eggs will become trapped in the thin film of drying anti-transpirant that covers the leaf.

Once the plants are outdoors for a few weeks, the mite problem should disappear."


Do you guys think this is true? Will leaving them outside completely rid the problem of spider mites...if infact I have them?
 
JJ05

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SenorBrownWater said:
Yuckie!
My neem and azamax does work....all season....
If they are mites they are some huge fucking supermites....I would just give them my plants as I don't want the to beat my ass...(they are not mites....mites look like
)

also "hey fellas" reminded me of Fargo...it's a really good show!
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my buddy has been telling me about Fargo, has been trying to get me to watch it. I may check it out after im done watching Orange Is The New Black. Now heres the weird thing. I been picking my plants all day. Looking at the leaves with my microscope over n over n over. I dont see any mites on them, just these tiny little egg things and webbing. No mites tho. I check the tops and bottoms of the leaves. The egg looking things appear to be on the top of the leaf, not the bottom..this shit is weird!
 
cann.i.bliss

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TWS said:
funny it's still legal here in the Ca, the state that bans everything.. Neem does not kill on contact . It is absorbd thru plant tissue and then eaten by the bugs . It does not kill eggs so there fore you have to break the cycle. It slows down the digestive and reproduction system of the mite until the population starves down. I have mites that go to happy hour and order neem cocktails. lol

Azamax a neem extract seems do to a lot better but is still a constant battle. I think with neem or Azamax using it preventatively before you have an infestation is the key.

Please don't get me wrong , Neem works but it is just a constant spraying though and stinks and not good in late flower. better have your ducks in a row by then.
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Did not realise neem was systemic but your right it can be absorbed by the plant I have always just used neem oil extract sprays like 'pest oil' which has a compound in it that stops the plant from absorbing it for all you green friendly types, that being said you could just water neem oil into your soil and the roots will absorb it and distribute it for you to the foliage and should reside in the plant for a week or so untill flushed out anyway which should take care of the present ones then the hatched eggs :-)
 
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SenorBrownWater said:
Yes I spray every Monday I alternate neem oil and axamax....
during late flower I just use azamax...
Neem oil is super user unfriendly...it's a bitch to use...but it's cheap....
I mix mine with pro-tekt as an emulsifier...and use warm water...shake the whole time...
I has a small patch of mites on my dead head OG in 2012.....
My mites don't like outside....they are kinda slow and potato.....
inside they are like the black plague of death....
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As TWS has made me aware neem oil is systemic so just water it directly into the soil the plant and roots will do the rest for you :-)
 
JJ05

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cann.i.bliss said:
As TWS has made me aware neem oil is systemic so just water it directly into the soil the plant and roots will do the rest for you :-)
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Nice :) I bet I got them while taking them inside at night :( I want to get these girls in the ground but I fear they are still too small to survive in the field. Do ya guys think its only asking for more problems putting them in the ground now or should I wait for a few? I figure if I have any bugs, well other bugs in the field will eat them...and possibly my baby plants, being their only 12 days old.
 

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JJ05 said:
Nice :) I bet I got them while taking them inside at night :( I want to get these girls in the ground but I fear they are still too small to survive in the field. Do ya guys think its only asking for more problems putting them in the ground now or should I wait for a few? I figure if I have any bugs, well other bugs in the field will eat them...and possibly my baby plants, being their only 12 days old.
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Nice looking plants dude I dunno what your field situation is like I would prob wait a little longer at least untill you have a nice football going on so they power on when planted out chuck down some snail bait for sure and just keep an eye open for other pests or signs or pest damage hard to defend outdoors against flying Insects pretty uncommon they will kill em overnight tho so you'll always have time to defend also if you have certain nasty insects in your area pretty bad you can try Companion planting that is planting plants that naturally deter certain pests or ones that attract certain beneficial insects like red ladybettles which eat aphids, mites etc and plant them near your ladys :-)
 
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Get some closer shot JJ05, doesnt look like mite damage at all. Mites that bite us, do they eat plants? Honeslty sounds like chiggers to me, looks like it also, never seen mites that big. Chiggers are predatory so woot for your nuggs, bad for your skin lol.
"Chiggers are nothing more than young mites, specifically the parasitic larvae of mites in the genus Trombicula. Mites belong to the class Arachnida, along with ticks and spiders. Like other arachnids, chigger mites go through four developmental stages: egg, larva, nymph, and adult. Nymphs and adults have four pairs of legs, while the larvae have just three pairs.

Adult mites and nymphs don't bother people at all. They feed on small organisms (including insects) they find on decaying plant matter, as well as on insect eggs. The adult chigger mites spend the winter in the soil, under leaf litter, or in other protected places. When soil temperatures warm up in the spring, the females deposit eggs on vegetation, most often in areas where it's slightly damp and the vegetation is thick.

When the eggs hatch, the trouble begins. Hungry larvae crawl up the vegetation and wait for unsuspecting hosts – people, pets, or other wildlife – to wander past. Should you brush against chigger-infested vegetation, or worse, sit down to rest in shady grass full of chiggers, the tiny bugs will immediately crawl up your body, looking for a place to hide." more or less looks like a small red tick to me.
 
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cann.i.bliss said:
Nice looking plants dude I dunno what your field situation is like I would prob wait a little longer at least untill you have a nice football going on so they power on when planted out chuck down some snail bait for sure and just keep an eye open for other pests or signs or pest damage hard to defend outdoors against flying Insects pretty uncommon they will kill em overnight tho so you'll always have time to defend also if you have certain nasty insects in your area pretty bad you can try Companion planting that is planting plants that naturally deter certain pests or ones that attract certain beneficial insects like red ladybettles which eat aphids, mites etc and plant them near your ladys :-)
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Awesome Idea Thanks man! I will def look into some companion planting :) I may infest the field with Tansy to attract ladybugs. I hear " Tansy attracts dozens of ladybugs during certain weeks of the growing season; they love to lay their eggs on tansy. These feeding ladybugs will stick around to feed on the pests in your garden" My field situation isnt too bad. Just alot of tall grass and other vegetation. However I Been growing there for quite sometime. Heres my best grow yet. These bad boys were started in 5 gallon pots and transplanted exactly 1 month later. They got HUGE back there :)
 

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Awesome Idea Thanks man! I will def look into some companion planting :) I may infest the field with Tansy to attract ladybugs. I hear " Tansy attracts dozens of ladybugs during certain weeks of the growing season; they love to lay their eggs on tansy. These feeding ladybugs will stick around to feed on the pests in your garden" My field situation isnt too bad. Just alot of tall grass and other vegetation. However I Been growing there for quite sometime. Heres my best grow yet. These bad boys were started in 5 gallon pots and transplanted exactly 1 month later. They got HUGE back there :)
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HELL FKN YEAH!!! Them some mean ass plants dude!! Whatever your doing your doing it right!! Yeah ladybugs kick ass, red ones anyway think the Orange ones arnt to nice tho
 
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we have those around here, find them on my mailbox sometimes. my neighbor informed me they were chigger mites. they look like spider mites, but about 10x bigger.
 
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BuzzD2Kill said:
Get some closer shot JJ05, doesnt look like mite damage at all. Mites that bite us, do they eat plants? Honeslty sounds like chiggers to me, looks like it also, never seen mites that big. Chiggers are predatory so woot for your nuggs, bad for your skin lol.
"Chiggers are nothing more than young mites, specifically the parasitic larvae of mites in the genus Trombicula. Mites belong to the class Arachnida, along with ticks and spiders. Like other arachnids, chigger mites go through four developmental stages: egg, larva, nymph, and adult. Nymphs and adults have four pairs of legs, while the larvae have just three pairs.

Adult mites and nymphs don't bother people at all. They feed on small organisms (including insects) they find on decaying plant matter, as well as on insect eggs. The adult chigger mites spend the winter in the soil, under leaf litter, or in other protected places. When soil temperatures warm up in the spring, the females deposit eggs on vegetation, most often in areas where it's slightly damp and the vegetation is thick.

When the eggs hatch, the trouble begins. Hungry larvae crawl up the vegetation and wait for unsuspecting hosts – people, pets, or other wildlife – to wander past. Should you brush against chigger-infested vegetation, or worse, sit down to rest in shady grass full of chiggers, the tiny bugs will immediately crawl up your body, looking for a place to hide." more or less looks like a small red tick to me.
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Heres some fresh pics for ya of the damage that has me questioning mites. Damn I love this camera lol! For anyone wondering its a Nikon P510, awesome camera! Anywhooo! Can Chiggers also cause tiny web like structures? If its not mites then I wonder if it could be a spider somewhere along my crop? Maybe a spider in my house when I brought them in on the cold nights? The second pic shows part the webs I been pulling off these bad boys all day! I'm also pulling chiggers out of my pots, from on my pots and plants. Which makes me wonder if they can be the ones causing this web like stuff if they are part of the Arachnida family? Oh and those black dots in the second to last pic, thats dirt from me holding the leaf for an under shot. It also caught my eye lol.
 

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cann.i.bliss said:
HELL FKN YEAH!!! Them some mean ass plants dude!! Whatever your doing your doing it right!! Yeah ladybugs kick ass, red ones anyway think the Orange ones arnt to nice tho
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Thanks dude! I know some ladybugs are MEAN and bite lol! This is the first year I had to bring plants inside, at night, in JUNE lol! The last 3 nights have been a low of 43-45! I usually start from seed outside, in 5 gallon rootmaker pots then transplant after about a month. However this year I am growing my photos in smaller pots and my autos in the 5 gallon rootmakers. I couldnt help but notice all this small stuff, had me questioning if me bringing them in may of been detrimental. Im a bit of a worry nut, obsessive compulsive about things lol
 
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cann.i.bliss said:
HELL FKN YEAH!!! Them some mean ass plants dude!! Whatever your doing your doing it right!! Yeah ladybugs kick ass, red ones anyway think the Orange ones arnt to nice tho
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haha! haha! I think I found the culprit of the webbing! I was wondering why it kept coming back all damn day! Poor guy must be mad at me, but he is awfully persistent! Hes on my c99 plant right now webbing away. Has a string of web connecting from pot to pot to pot it seems! Sneaky lil guy! I guess I have a lil pest control going on already :) :) Damn I LOVE NATURE!!!! 059.JPG062.JPG 063.JPG 064.JPG
 
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haha! haha! I think I found the culprit of the webbing! I was wondering why it kept coming back all damn day! Poor guy must be mad at me, but he is awfully persistent! Hes on my c99 plant right now webbing away. Has a string of web connecting from pot to pot to pot it seems! Sneaky lil guy! I guess I have a lil pest control going on already :) :) Damn I LOVE NATURE!!!! View attachment 3173412View attachment 3173413 View attachment 3173414 View attachment 3173415
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Hahaha oh he is most defiantly on the job there!! Yeah I know what u mean I dont really like spraying any chemicals around if can be avoided a lot of farmers etc are moving into IPM (integrated pest management) using natural predators to controll pest I think its awesome nature has its own plan circle of life and what not we just fuck it all up with our chemicals being a fast short term result but we are killing all the beneficial insects while we are at it which just makes the problem worse in the long run, man I can get over those plants u must have some kick ass soil and climate not to mention a green thumb.
 
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Hahaha oh he is most defiantly on the job there!! Yeah I know what u mean I dont really like spraying any chemicals around if can be avoided a lot of farmers etc are moving into IPM (integrated pest management) using natural predators to controll pest I think its awesome nature has its own plan circle of life and what not we just fuck it all up with our chemicals being a fast short term result but we are killing all the beneficial insects while we are at it which just makes the problem worse in the long run, man I can get over those plants u must have some kick ass soil and climate not to mention a green thumb.
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Yeah man, its wild all the chemicals people use, however he must have some food there to eat or he wouldnt be there I'd assume. Them plants lasted me over 2 years damn near! I JUST ran out of that harvest this year! I was very impressed. Believe it or not. It was the soil from my garden! The garden soil is AMAZING you should see my veggies! What I do is dig a nice hole and fill it in with my garden soil then plant. I dont mess with anything store bought except for starting my seeds I use Promix. This year I mixed Promix Ultimate Organic with Promix BX to try it out. So far so good! For feeding I make my own teas :) however I find I dont really need to feed once their in my gardens soil until their about to flower. Let me show you another grow from a few years back. BRB let me find the pics!
 
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