Are these eggs of some sort?

808newb

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Here goes...I found a bunch of small dark brown raised spots on my purple haze with what appears to be tiny ants eating them. I am wondering if this is related to some boring insect that has already inflicted damage on my kali mist. I am wondering if I am dealing with the same bug on both. The holes are literally smaller than the head of a pin and usually has some fine white plant dust around the whole. I'll come in one morning and an entire 1-2 oz branch looks like it's been water starved for a couple days while the rest of the plant is green and vigorous.

Let me also say that the kali has been out in the greenhouse now for a couple months and is 3/4 the way thru flower. The purple haze I just moved out there a couple of weeks ago so I am just now starting to see the first pistils.
The only common denominator I can see are these tiny yellow banded ants:?:


Purple haze
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Kali Mist
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808newb

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Ok,
Cottony Scales, or some such scale pest, y'all need some insecticide.
duly noted on the scale creature in the last pic. Now I have two separate bugs then because those scale creatures attach themselves to the plant cause they have no legs, and they suck on the plant sap, but they don't bore holes??
 

808newb

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Still needing to know what is boring into the branches. Idk if Japanese beetles are responsible or not. I haven't seen any larvae just some white sawdust around the hole. Was trying to narrow the possibilities to critters that make holes that small.
 

SPLFreak808

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Wow, you can insecticide the fuck out of the ground around the plant and hope that flying predators come along to eat them. Im sorry i have no advice to give as ive never had these pest. They do appear to look like (pill bugs) or patato bugs as we call it out here. I hope you blasted them fuckers off with water!
 

808newb

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I finally found out what has been boring holes and killing my plants. It is called the Black Twig Borer.

http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/trees/black_twig_borer.htm

Apparently there is no treatment that will kill these fuckers once they are inside the branch other than pruning off the the affected branches just below the bore hole. Small branches I can live with pruning, but if the borer hole is on the stalk the. Ur fucked!
Once a female gets in and lays eggs, she inoculates the surrounding plant tissue around the eggs with ambrosia fungus which is what the baby borers eat until they emerge back out of the entrance hole as adults 28 days later. So I'm wondering if I could use a syringe to squirt either some sort of insecticide or fungicide or combo of both into the boring holes. But I'm sure that has it's own set of consequences, like what would be the result if the baby borers dying inside making a bigger problem or would they come out the hole to die??
What am I left with? Chopping my plants in the green house and nuking the whole greenhouse with the strongest insecticide I can find?
My kali mist and purple haze
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are already afflicted with this and just found it on my vegging skunk haze that I keep inside:wall:!
Can u spot the dead branch and the hole just below it(less than 1 mm)?image.jpg image.jpg

On my flowering plants bud formation size has been significantly dwarfed throughout the entire plant if holes are located on the main stalk...everything above the holes slows to a snails pace while everything below the hole grows normal.
Need some serious sound advise from anyone that has dealt with these fuckers on any alternative solution besides just chop-n-burn.:peace:

I think those bumps are something unrelated as I haven't come across anything that looks like them in any literature I've read about the black twig borer, they just scrape off with my fingernail.
 

808newb

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Are the black bumps kind of like far or sticky. And where are you from
Nope,they come off fairly easy intact, not sticky at all. I don't see any signs of life, but those black ants love them. image.jpg
Unless the ants are making them. Funny thing is if my plant has these bumps, I also have borers. Coincidence? So now I go out and find them on my strawberry cough too!image.jpg
Most boring beetles prefer diseased or dead wood...this species prefer healthy green branches.
This species is found in southern and central Florida, and in Hawaii, which is where I live now
 

Indacouch

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Damn bro I've never seen button like that or even heard of it ....the reason I asked about the bumps I thought it might be shit from the bugs .....but you have a point as far as the aunts go they do farm different bugs and things they could be setting up shop in your soil maybe
 

SPLFreak808

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Damn bro I've never seen button like that or even heard of it ....the reason I asked about the bumps I thought it might be shit from the bugs .....but you have a point as far as the aunts go they do farm different bugs and things they could be setting up shop in your soil maybe
Out here, our seasons never really change enough to de-stabilize insects ect. We have a shit load of bugs, spider mites can thrive year around (sounds pretty fucked up right) But also we have a shit load of predators too.
 

Indacouch

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Yeah damn i guess there ups and downs to that situation having lots of good weather .......preventative measures have a whole new meaning for you guys growing there
 

808newb

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Out here, our seasons never really change enough to de-stabilize insects ect. We have a shit load of bugs, spider mites can thrive year around (sounds pretty fucked up right) But also we have a shit load of predators too.
Since u live here, have u ever had to deal with these?
 

SPLFreak808

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Since u live here, have u ever had to deal with these?
Whats funny bro is i have these brown little pincher mouth flying beetles around my indoor grows, about half the length of a penny and the body diameter of a headphone plug. I have been catching them flying around my indoor plants for months! Yet i cant get rid of them because im not sure how the fuck they get into my sealed rooms. And im just cringing like a motherfucker because i recently just got over two dotted mites, and i know mites can hang on beetles. So far i see no damage but your post got me wondering now.
When outdoors, i will never get to a full blown infestation, i live up the mountains in the forrest pretty much. The worst I've ever seen was gnats galore when it rains for weeks, even they will get finished off once the rain stops. Now my worst fear and i am usually against this, is bringing outdoor plants inside giving whatever is on the plant time to infest. Never had this borer problem yet though and im gonna go knock on wood.
 

808newb

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@SPLFreak808 yea I'm kinda against that whole indoor/outdoor too. But I only flower outdoors cause it's easier on the wallet. I only have a 150W cfl to keep the ones I want vegging or revert the ones I wanna save, so yea I bring them outside any chance we get for good weather then bring back in before nitefall. You know I got one of those ideas u only get after smoking a phattie...could just drill the whole bigger so those ants can have a feast the squirt some food grade fungicide in the hole to kill the ambrosia fungus!
@Indacouch maybe not until I find out what those bumps are frombongsmilie
 
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