Are These Buds Brown, or Amber?? Is My Harvest Trash or Triumph??

Brother Sweetleaf

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I've been outdoor-growing one plant wonderfully, in a PVC "house" I built, wrapped in insect-netting, plus heavy plastic during the rainfalls, and all had been going surprisingly awesome, until unforeseen events beyond my control may have brought mold (or something like it), although to be honest I'm not 100% sure... It may just be natural brown wilting...

You see, I let my plants get thirsty before striking them for harvest. It decreases drying-time a bit, and who knows-- maybe the plant's thirst for a drink during it's final couple of days could have a similar effect as the constant darkness during a plant's final couple days, forcing it to increase resin-production a bit in desperation. At the very least, it seems to make drying a bit quicker. Anyways, I had a bit of Perfect Storm here, where the de-humidifyer and oscillating fan lost power-- unbeknownst to me-- and a couple days passed before I got inside the outdoor "tent" to discover it.

There are other elements to the story that make it quite interesting... For example, I experimented (again this year) by implementing my idea to wrap the small, outdoor, PVC-house with a roll of 20" plastic shrinkwrap, creating an even better barrier against the "outside" air, improving upon an idea I tried on last year's harvest. With pouches of desiccant, a reasonably powerful dehumidifier, an oscillating fan and a small Vornado, I was pretty confident this might actually work!

Well, the bottom line is this: My plant pretty much just about died on her own of thirst. The buds are still living-like, but every remaining leaf that I had not defoliated last week shriveled & turned fully-brown, past yellow. And about 1/3 to a 1/2 of the trichomes have gone from clear & milky white to a gorgeous amber. She looks spectacular... Or she looks screwed-up... I'm not really sure which.

I'm familiar with budrot, & this is not that. It doesn't necessarily look like mold, but it appears so BROWN. But then, when peeled back & defoliated further-- and (strangely) under a microscope-- the green really comes out-- almost sometimes that bright, yellowish green... And so it seems that the problem is dehydration & dead, dried leaves & such. But the "red hairs" are really quite dark brown, and the clear-white is now rich amber, and everything looks so--- IDK--- not right (although that's how it SHOULD look, considering.)

But having been "outside" during the rainiest it's been all year, wrapped in a plastic box WITHOUT de-humidification & good air-flow for a couple days, I just feel awful...

Honestly, I think when stuff like this happens, depression is the biggest problem... This sort of thing can sap the will right out of a grower. I have set-up a few plastic bins & buckets, lots of clean water, H2O2, lemon-juice, baking soda, & researched a butt-load of information on safely washing your pre-dried bud to clean it from bugs, dirt, debris, & some forms of mold. I've studied extensively on the subject, and although washing bud seems crazy, it's actually not. (Those who wish to debate the wisdom of washing bud & argue why they'd rather smoke dirty bud can do so on another thread please, and remain on-topic here).

So IDK... I want to try and save it, but I'm pretty much at the end of my tether with this. I cannot imagine doing all the work ahead of me for nothing, just to get nasty, moldy, over-ripe weed. (Plus I film everything for a future video-series, which just adds extra work to anything I do with my plant.)

The dichotomy is that I also cannot imagine mistakenly throwing away 4 months worth of primo amazing bud full of perfectly amber trichomes because I thought it looked "too brown", or because too many know-it-all nay-sayers on the forums here said it was moldy & bunk, when in fact it wasn't.

(First pic below was just before the weekend, the others are from this morning. Trash or Triumph???)
 

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Herb & Suds

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Maybe skipping the video plans and dialing in growing would make it easier
It looks just like you described ...DOA
It will probably be smokable , but not well grown , perfect or even well done
 

Joncoh101

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Damn man sorry to hear, just remember all of this is a lesson well learned. Its all a learning process. And if all else fails, just make some super dank oil with it!
 

Brother Sweetleaf

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Maybe skipping the video plans and dialing in growing would make it easier... It looks just like you described ...DOA... It will probably be smokable , but not well grown , perfect or even well done
Thanks for posting. Great advice to help me move forward, although to have made a video series showing the grow-cycle of this plant throughout the year, only to abandon it at harvest time with no recorded conclusion, is an even bigger waste than the wilted plant. This whole problem here occurred within a couple of days, and I really don't think is a good indicator of bud "not well-grown or well-done" throughout the year. On the contrary; if you looked at the 1st pic, you'd see that she was damn near perfect just before this happened.

Perhaps it's great for butter or oil, if not still for smoking... I don't know.

Maybe it's time to just be done with this nonsense altogether... Year after year I get better & better, but I haven't yet ever had a good & healthy 100%-full harvest.
 

Joedank

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Thanks for posting. Great advice to help me move forward, although to have made a video series showing the grow-cycle of this plant throughout the year, only to abandon it at harvest time with no recorded conclusion, is an even bigger waste than the wilted plant. This whole problem here occurred within a couple of days, and I really don't think is a good indicator of bud "not well-grown or well-done" throughout the year. On the contrary; if you looked at the 1st pic, you'd see that she was damn near perfect just before this happened.

Perhaps it's great for butter or oil, if not still for smoking... I don't know.

Maybe it's time to just be done with this nonsense altogether... Year after year I get better & better, but I haven't yet ever had a good & healthy 100%-full harvest.
What is your drying process? Looks like it was too hot or in the sun while drying. High humidity can also remove chlorophyll from drying Cannabis
 

Dougnsalem

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Thanks for posting. Great advice to help me move forward, although to have made a video series showing the grow-cycle of this plant throughout the year, only to abandon it at harvest time with no recorded conclusion, is an even bigger waste than the wilted plant. This whole problem here occurred within a couple of days, and I really don't think is a good indicator of bud "not well-grown or well-done" throughout the year. On the contrary; if you looked at the 1st pic, you'd see that she was damn near perfect just before this happened.

Perhaps it's great for butter or oil, if not still for smoking... I don't know.

Maybe it's time to just be done with this nonsense altogether... Year after year I get better & better, but I haven't yet ever had a good & healthy 100%-full harvest.
Just IMHO, but why not do the video? I think it would be more valuable to newbs like myself (2nd grow), because it shows what NOT to do, or what to watch out for. There's a bazillion videos of "perfect" grows out there. As a plus, show how you saved the grow, by using it for something other than smoking. Please post a link here, if you do end up making it. I'd watch it, for sure!
 

too larry

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I've had more than my fair share of plants dying for one reason or the other. The termites always get a few flowering plants every year. The plant dies so fast it's brown when you get back to check on it. And sometimes the bud does taste bad. I made canna coconut oil with it if it's too rough to smoke. No need to toss it.

With my rainy season and flower season being the same, I deal with rot all the time. I've been washing buds in 3% H2O2 with good results. When there is rot on a plant, buck everything off the stems, toss any rot you find, wash good, then look at the drying buds everyday. You will see some turn dark {with rot} that looked like they were alright.
 

707mend

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You might have over fertilized aswell and killed it, the photo where it still looks okay it’s definitely nute burned, and when your on that like where it is it’s very easy to kill it. Are you drying it in the sun? I didint follow everything, letting a plant die of dehydration will definitely make it brown as fuck so will drying it in the sun or burning it with nutes
 

707mend

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Also I looked at your YouTube channel and honestly I wouldent bud wash at all, the only reason people to it is because of strict legal regulations and it’s gnarlier than whatever’s on the bud, also leaving your crossbow cocked indefinitely (or longer than 2 hours) is really bad for it and your going to loose lots of force and accuracy
 

too larry

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Also I looked at your YouTube channel and honestly I wouldent bud wash at all, the only reason people to it is because of strict legal regulations and it’s gnarlier than whatever’s on the bud. . . . . . . . . .
Try washing some of your bud. Even with plain water you will see just how much dust and other assorted shit there is on clean looking weed. I wash everything. I use a weak H2O2 mix for the clean stuff, and from 50/50 to straight 3% for everything from plants with rot.
 
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