Are there any skeptics out there.
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bkbbudz
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I am skeptical that this thread makes any sense whatsoever. What are you getting at? Put down the pipe for a few hours and explain please.
Daath
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I doubt it.
PbHash
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Its a "noun" used by the broadcasters of the podcast "The Skeptics Guide To The Universe" on iTunes. Used to describe people who are skeptical ideas/statements that are not backed up by science such as religion, astrology, psychics, and creationists. Like I said if you were one you would understand my HINT about the podcast. Obviously neither of you have heard of it?
cannabineer
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What is iTunes? cn
PbHash
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bkbbudz
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Nope sure have'nt. Though there are things I am very skeptical about. However I choose not to publicly debate most of them. I will say this creationism needs no scientific backing, it is based on faith. If God where to come to me and say "Hi I am God" then their is no need for faith.
As for religion, astrology, and pyschics IMHO these were all instituted by 'scammers' to prey on the fears of the masses.
For any trolls that wish to argue my point on creationism, please don't bother. It is my personal belief and I will not get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. LOL!
PbHash
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-bkbbudz: sorry bro but you set yourself up for this. "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence" Christopher Hitchens. If you don't want to talk about it then don't say you are a creationist then explain why you are right, but say you can't argue any of my points or that makes you a troll. WTF?!
I know this isn't exactly the topic but whatever. And of you do not wish to discuss further that's ok, but for the sake of others I have to pick on you. What a special pleading fallacy that you use. (pleading fallacy: is when one proponent of an argument believes it can be exempt from a generally excepted rule) If you have faith, what gives it to you. Something you perceive has caused a sway in your view, but you don't have to explain it? I can have faith with evidence. Example, when I bunggie jump I have faith that the cord will not break. Why? Because of the few I have done and the many I have seen not once has the cord broken. See, I have faith through evidence. I feel like this argument is used more and more as science disproved creationism. As science advances religions will contort their views to fit the new scientific evidence. Remember at one point in time you could be excited by the Church for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the universe.
Not trying to be a "troll" whatever that may be but you brought up a major debating topic that I like. I am a skeptic, it's what I do and was hoping to talk about on this thread. I think it is important to point out fallacies in arguments and use critical thinking to work through problems. I'm not just picking on religion, antivaccine people are the worst!
I know this isn't exactly the topic but whatever. And of you do not wish to discuss further that's ok, but for the sake of others I have to pick on you. What a special pleading fallacy that you use. (pleading fallacy: is when one proponent of an argument believes it can be exempt from a generally excepted rule) If you have faith, what gives it to you. Something you perceive has caused a sway in your view, but you don't have to explain it? I can have faith with evidence. Example, when I bunggie jump I have faith that the cord will not break. Why? Because of the few I have done and the many I have seen not once has the cord broken. See, I have faith through evidence. I feel like this argument is used more and more as science disproved creationism. As science advances religions will contort their views to fit the new scientific evidence. Remember at one point in time you could be excited by the Church for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the universe.
Not trying to be a "troll" whatever that may be but you brought up a major debating topic that I like. I am a skeptic, it's what I do and was hoping to talk about on this thread. I think it is important to point out fallacies in arguments and use critical thinking to work through problems. I'm not just picking on religion, antivaccine people are the worst!
bkbbudz
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HMMM I did mention that was MY opinion right? I do not recall asking for yours. But you have the right to YOUR beliefs as well. Dismissed.
PbHash
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bkbbudz- you do have the rights to your opinion, but in your explanation of faith you are explaining why a nonbeliever could be wrong, so I rebuttled your argument. If you would have just said you are a creationist that would have been different. You seemed to try and explain why science could be wrong, so I tried explaining why your argument seemed illogical.
PbHash
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Hmm, is that possible?
bkbbudz
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That seems reasonable....undismissed.
But IF creationism is true and a skeptic goes to heaven...well the commercial with Santa Clause (whom I am very skeptical about LOL!) and the talking M&M's comes too mind. LOL! Just sayin'
xKuroiTaimax
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When you believe in an omnipotent creator god... Logic doesn't mean shit.
Well, not all the time, but I'll tell you the only way to explain all the holes in science filled with theoretical knowledge (kind oxymoronic there) and speculation is to believe in god X3
We humans can't handle it if something in the universe is beyond our strength or feeble attempts to pick apart and understand everything. You can't prove the divine nowadays, that's what faith is for. Alot of people have faith in what scientists 'believe' rather than 'know' aswell.
You asked if there were any skeptics and the one person giving you a legitimate answer you take a nibble out of 0_o One can't pour out their entire belief system in a second like that...
Well, not all the time, but I'll tell you the only way to explain all the holes in science filled with theoretical knowledge (kind oxymoronic there) and speculation is to believe in god X3
We humans can't handle it if something in the universe is beyond our strength or feeble attempts to pick apart and understand everything. You can't prove the divine nowadays, that's what faith is for. Alot of people have faith in what scientists 'believe' rather than 'know' aswell.
You asked if there were any skeptics and the one person giving you a legitimate answer you take a nibble out of 0_o One can't pour out their entire belief system in a second like that...
PbHash
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Yeah, maybe. If I recall correctly there are about 10^10^122 possible combinations of how elements can come together in our universe so it may be possible buy extremely implausible. And that is just our universe with our Higgs field blah blah blah. I would eat that peanut M&M too.
PbHash
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No you are wrong. You are saying because we do not understand something at this point in time it must be Devine. Way more reasonable to believe that the holes are waiting to be filled with a simple explanation. As stated before, That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I don't think there are any true scientists out there making claims without evidence otherwise it would be called religion.
guy incognito
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Everyone tells me i'm a skeptic...but i'm not so sure.