Are autoflowering (C. Ruderalis) plants really as good as people make them out to be?

I don't know why, but I have this kind of natural grudge against autoflowering plants. They seem kind of fake and not worth it. I mean it's a cannabis ruderalis plant (that makes very little to no THC or CBDs on it's own) crossed with C. Sativa and C. Indica plants (or hybrids) to make these autoflowering little bud producing plants. I see all these mixed feelings about it, some saying they're junk, while others love them. I don't really see any advantage to them other than being able to use almost any light schedule that gives around 12+ hours of light a day from sprout to harvest. Why not just flower a true plant (when I say true I mean not crossed with ruderalis) early if you want an early producing plant?

Give me some opinions

haven't tried smoking any but I like the idea of autoflowering because, say you would like to do an outdoor grow. you make a shit load of seeds with the 10 that you bought. then you could start them in April - May and they would finish in 8-10 weeks, show sex in 20 days and put them out in pretty much any type of crop in a farmers field and beat the copters. eg. put them in soybean, usually a non auto flowering strain would not be able to go into that field because the soybean turns brown late august and harvested sometime september. Small plants,low yield but you just have to start a whole bunch.
Thats why I like em. also a early harvest to smoke some of your bud before your non auto strains even start budding.

i have never tried them but i think it is cool to work with ruderalis for a number of reasons.

first - just cause ruderalis is low in THC does not mean the hybrid will be and as you perfect the strain - the THC content should be comparable with most strains.
second - outdoor growers have a chance for both an early and late harvest as well as their regular crop. can't see how more bud can be a bad thing.
third - ruderalis is short and hardy - very good for indoors, stealthy spaces and first time growers (or experienced growers with less-than-ideal conditions).
fourth - experimentation is what brought us all these other wonderful strains and some varities so i say have at it.

Lowryder rocks! Great yield, short grow, and awesome smoke! If you grow them right you will not be disappointed.

some of the best bud i've ever grown/smoked was diesel ryder!

growing diesel ryder now and thc is around 17%-19%

yeah, im doin dr myself. waitin for attitude to get sum more auto kush in

is that master kush x lowryder, love kush strains i wanna start some master kush 4 my next grow

i got some auto hindu kush in flowering right now and they are looking amazing a couple of them didn't stretch out so they are just turning into one big fat bud and the others are growing nice sizedbuds all over them.....i would not say i am an experienced grower in anyway but i am almost positive THC is all the crystals and if THC content is directly related to THC content (which im not sure) then these things are pack....just covered over in crystals

Dont count out the ruderalis! After all, the famed "Alaskan Thunderfuck" is a ruderalis.

Ruderalis developed to be autoflowering because they grow so far north of the equator, that they dont have regular light schedules.

The light that far up (northern russia/alaska) doesnt have a natural 12/12 cycle. The plant has to instead rely on its on maturity to decide when to flower.


Nature finds a way.....

in my opinion they suck, not because of qualitly but because of quantity. Not really worth wasting my light and nutes on if it isnt gonna get me atleast a couple ounces of a plant.

Lowryder II is okay. Pitifully small yield indoors, but fast. The smoke is pretty tasty with respectable potency.

I intend to try again it, possibly outdoors.

I grow LR Auto AK and the taste and potency leave a little bit to be desired, but overall they are just OK. On a scale of 1-10.......I give them a 5. Kind of middle of the road stuff.

I have some full size AK47 and it's WAY WAY better than the auto AK.

i have an autoflowering plant i got from a friend i like that its buds on its own and the potentcy is pretty good i use a clone technique where you take a clone and as soon its it ready put it in an 8 gallon pot and you get at leaste 2 to 3 ounces a plant or more no veg material so you have to use the lower buds strip off some nodes .. not ideal i know but if ur good at cloning it isnt really a problem they grow really bush when you clone from buds lots of nodes just my 2 cents but down side is you cant keep a mother have to keep cloning clones and it sometimes takes a little longer to clone buds .. a while back i got some ak48 from nirvana out of all the seeds i ended up with 1 male so i powdered the shit out of one of the autoflowering clones hopfully it will make some nice seeds wonder if they will have autoflowering trait

my first two grows were with lowryder #2. it's a second gen hybrid crossed with Santa Maria. it was great for learning, but i'll never grow them again. i was stoked when i got an ounce from my first grow and even more when i got 1.5 ounces from my second. but then i moved to indicas and yield three ounces a plant. for three more weeks, i get three times the bud.

however, the LR 2 wasn't bad after cured. it tasted good and the high was uplifting - not the best, but quite good. I prefer the taste and smoke of everything that i've grown since then. so, for learners, the LR 2 is great, but a simple cost/benefit shows that you get much more yield with only a little more time with regular strains. for that reason, I personally stay away from anything with ruderalis, but keep the crossing the experimentation going. if you're just starting out, try the autoflowers...

Well this changed my mind about LRs. I'm gonna stick with non-ruderalis strains.

It's a great way to fill a grow gap.



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We are lucky to have them and they are ideal for certain situations outdoors. As far as indoors I don't see why anyone uses them either, maybe they can't afford a $5 timer for their light.

There are some great strains, but if you grow their equivalent indica or sativa pure parents you'll find they are still lacking. Some not so bad any more, great progress has been made, but still the normal varieties are superior period.

Non autoflower varieties will do everything the autoflowers do and better as far as your ability to manipulate them to stay small for a SOG or whatever and finish faster once you start flipping clones.

And nothing beats having a mother and all your clones for free for a lifetime. No having to breed for seed or buy more seed all the time.

Growing an original from clone guaratees perfectly consistant quality, you're always growing the same plant. With beans they can end up fat or skinnny or tall or short, they're all individuals like we are and all different even in quality and taste to a small degree.

I'd go so far as to say that if you are not flipping clones you are not growing optimally.

I'd really appreciate some clarification on how you clone autoflowers over and over without continually loosing growth, size, and yield each time. When you clone a plant that clone is as old as the parent it came from. If you let each clone root and grow a week before you take your next clone off it, would that not leave the new clone less time before it finishes each time until you run out of time ?

I don't get it.

Is their maturity, their time to flower somehow tied to their size rather than age?

I think RUD'S have a great place in the garden. Just because 25%THC med weed is available, doesn't mean you should walk around zombied all the time.
RUD's will get your head there in nice fashion and if you plant them at the same time you plant your Regulars, you'll get two harvests staggered out, which is always nice.

Good Luck



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